How many will buy the new Tundra with a diesel? (if Toyota makes one)

[LanceK]

I would really like a diesel option in the next Tundra.

I test drove a Chevy DuraMax recently as was very impressed. Aside from the obvious power it was smooth and relatively quiet. Not TOO quiet of course..

I hope Toyota offers a Hino in the next generation.

[ricqik]

Only if it can start at -30 without being plugged in.

[Two4X4]

Originally Posted by LanceK

I would really like a diesel option in the next Tundra.

I test drove a Chevy DuraMax recently as was very impressed. Aside from the obvious power it was smooth and relatively quiet. Not TOO quiet of course..
I hope Toyota offers a Hino in the next generation.

I would strongly consider it.

[Azbrian]

I would consider buying one only if I was towing. Consider this though, Tundras are expensive as it is, and adding another $5000+ in addition to a higher price for the next generation doublecab Tundra will easily put you up to $40K. That's hard to swallow for a lot of people... even if you can afford it, man, what a huge payment.

[TIE-YOTA]

Originally Posted by Azbrian

I would consider buying one only if I was towing. Consider this though, Tundras are expensive as it is, and adding another $5000+ in addition to a higher price for the next generation doublecab Tundra will easily put you up to $40K. That's hard to swallow for a lot of people... even if you can afford it, man, what a huge payment.

That is exactly the reason I am not getting a Powerstroke. I can't justify the cost = $38K.

I did, however, figure a contingency plan for 2004 Tundra DC. I am purchasing one this Spring. I am leaving it stock for the most part. I figure if I ever get into a situation where I did need additional HP/torque then I can add the supercharger. This additional expense as well as installation will cost $5K less than having to purchase a new truck or newer truck.

[Two4X4]

Originally Posted by TIE-YOTA

That is exactly the reason I am not getting a Powerstroke. I can't justify the cost = $38K.

I did, however, figure a contingency plan for 2004 Tundra DC. I am purchasing one this Spring. I am leaving it stock for the most part. I figure if I ever get into a situation where I did need additional HP/torque then I can add the supercharger. This additional expense as well as installation will cost $5K less than having to purchase a new truck or newer truck.

I doubt that supercharger can make up for the engines lack of displacement. The diesels that come in trucks from the other companies are premium quality units and thus their expense. The engine in the Tundra is not up to that level of durability and adding the supercharger would just work an already overworked engine that much harder. The supercharger makes sense for increased pep and of course towing within the limits of the truck but that is about 7,000 lbs or less. the diesels can tow over 10,000 lbs. Attmepting to tow such a load with supercharger Tundra would toast it's engine rapidly.

The Tundra is nice but nice don't cut it anymore. Now, the Titan engine does have heavy duty premium features like moly coating and several other things that make me think Nissan intends to grow that engine considerably, but it is still a gasser.

I would like the diesel if Toyota comes out with a 3/4 ton.

[Tuns-o-fun]

I wish I could have afforded a diesel of sorts...I don't do a ton of towing, but just knowing that I can, getting decent fuel mileage, and not to mention the response to modification, is enough to sway me should my pocket book allow. By the way, I remember reading an excerpt on the new high output cummins in the Dodge somewhere...don't remember the exact figures, but hp was around 325 and torque was well over 600 lb/ft! Towing capacity was over 19000 pounds!! But hey, there's always a sunny side and in my case, at least I get to listen to my high tech 4.7 burble out the backside every day knowing no diesel can touch that sound!

[currybob]

I had a 2003 power stroke but the QC on the engine was bad. Very heavy engine but had all the torque you could want. Had one bought back only to have the replacement truck develop similar problems with oil leaks. Way more truck than I needed so I went back to a quality built Tundra (my second).

I would like to see Toyota develop a smaller, lighter yet nearly as powerful diesel. The cost would be the other issue, Toyota will have to find a way to do it without making the truck too costly. Diesels get about %40 better fuel mileage and in this day and age that can add up.


Bob

[headleyj]

Originally Posted by Tuns-o-fun

I wish I could have afforded a diesel of sorts...I don't do a ton of towing, but just knowing that I can, getting decent fuel mileage, and not to mention the response to modification, is enough to sway me should my pocket book allow. By the way, I remember reading an excerpt on the new high output cummins in the Dodge somewhere...don't remember the exact figures, but hp was around 325 and torque was well over 600 lb/ft! Towing capacity was over 19000 pounds!! But hey, there's always a sunny side and in my case, at least I get to listen to my high tech 4.7 burble out the backside every day knowing no diesel can touch that sound!

Your #'s on the Cummins are correct. I would like to see a V6 diesel option for the 1/2 ton's (DC's included obviously). There will be a clean V6 diesel program out around 08, but which manufacturer will run with it remains to be seen. Ford recently backed out of their agreement with Navistar for their V6 diesel program so we'll see. Gas mileage and torque are the main things I would look forward to. A V6 version would fit the bill nicely I think. Their main hurdle would be public perception of the "dirty diesel" and the noise (what little is left!!). With Toyota rolling out all the hybrid technology and emphasizing the "greenness" of those vehicles, a clean diesel would follow nicely I think. They can design them quieter and SULEV (super ultra low emissions vehicle) these days so keep your eyes open.

[mandzach]

Toyota already makes diesel trucks....... check out what they sell over seas befor i purchased my tundra i asked a toyota salesman to look into importing a LC pickup 4x4 with diesel power , you can guess on his response to that question__________ . anyways i would love to see a toyota diesel but only if it was far superior to the new ford power stroke/ chevy duromax.
why would anyone want less unless it was for a taco or 4 runner. my 2 cents

[LanceK]

I drove a Chevy DuraMax yesterday and fell in love.

The motor is made my Isuzu (even says Isuzu on the engine) which makes me feel better since to my knowledge, Isuzu has been building great trucks in Europe and Asia for some time.

I'm not so hyped on the Chevy styling inside and out, but man what a truck!

Since I was on a test drive by myself, I pulled over and gave the truck a look over. I put my face within a foot of the tailpipe and couldn't smell any diesel fumes. I'm sure it's worse when stepping on it but still nice considering.

Anybody have a website or pictures of the Toyota diesel trucks offered overseas?

[Two4X4]

Originally Posted by mandzach

Toyota already makes diesel trucks....... check out what they sell over seas befor i purchased my tundra i asked a toyota salesman to look into importing a LC pickup 4x4 with diesel power , you can guess on his response to that question__________ . anyways i would love to see a toyota diesel but only if it was far superior to the new ford power stroke/ chevy duromax.
why would anyone want less unless it was for a taco or 4 runner. my 2 cents

Why does Toyota sell diesels everywhere but here?? Well, for one thing finding diesel fuel is not easy in some places without going to a truck stop and lining up with the big rigs. Many stations don't have it or have only one old greasy filthy pump and all the gas pumps are clean and shiney. Some places you have to go inside and fill out paperwork to buy the diesel, yep, some stations here in Kansaw make you come inside and sign an invoice etc. Just totally rediculous.
Yep, I want diesel but I want it in my tank and not all over me and I want to pay with my card at the pump not inside with a bunch of whatevers gawking at the tatooed lady with a pierced nose.

[file014]

I doubt I'd buy a diesel. I think the next gas engine could put out near 300hp and 400 torque and thats probably way more than Id ever need. I dont currently do any towing, but you never know. If it got 40% better mpg than a gas, then Id consider it, but I dont think it would be that much better. A hybrid would work for me too. A diesel Jetta drove by me in the parking lot today. It wasnt smelly, but it wasnt that quiet. I knew as soon as it rolled up that it was diesel, and sure enough it had TDI on the trunk.

[colon]

I couldn't agree more about getting greater diesel availability. There is a great story about diesels (or lack there of) in the current issue is C&D. The jist of the story is it'll be a cold day in you-know-where before you see diesels on smaller vehicles.

[RichR]

I have owned a Diesel(packaged in a Dodge unfortunatley).I "might "be interested.But I also might be heading to financial Armegedden.
So that will tell the story for me.
RichR