when i went in for my 60k service... they told me it included a trans service. this was to include changing the fluid. he said when this is done... they actually only replace a small amount. im not sure but i thought he said 1/4 of the overall capacity. he suggested the "MAX" service. i really do trust my service writer... and i dont feel he steers me wrong.
with this max service... it included a trans flush. he said they actually replace all the fluid. i figured this was a good idea because i felt as though my shifts were getting a bit rough.
why does a normal service only replace a small amount of fluid??
is a flush really better??
if a flush is better... why isnt it normal for a service??
I heard from Red Line...they don't have an ATF that substitutes for Toyota's T-IV.
The coolers sold under the B&M brand name are made by Long Mfg., and are also sold under the Long Tru-Cool, Tekonsha, and other brand names. The giveaway is the "Made in Canada" on the cooler. I like these because of the high cooling capacity in a small area and the cold oil internal bypass.
Ken
Well stated. Long is the best cooler out there and the only brand that we sell and install.
when i went in for my 60k service... they told me it included a trans service. this was to include changing the fluid. he said when this is done... they actually only replace a small amount. im not sure but i thought he said 1/4 of the overall capacity. he suggested the "MAX" service. i really do trust my service writer... and i dont feel he steers me wrong.
with this max service... it included a trans flush. he said they actually replace all the fluid. i figured this was a good idea because i felt as though my shifts were getting a bit rough.
why does a normal service only replace a small amount of fluid??
is a flush really better??
if a flush is better... why isnt it normal for a service??
Chris - the "normal" service only involves draining/replacing the oil in the pan (about 4 qts). The "max" service is a complete flush which typically ends up taking about 14-15qts to do it right. Its something you can easily do yourself in about an hours time but I would do it closer to 30-40k miles instead of waiting until 60K. If you search this forum you should be able to find the detailed instructions . I also highly recommend going with a synthetic fluid (Amsoil or Mobil 1). Yes it costs a more, but cheap insurance in my opinion to maintain a high dollar vehicle. If you ever need a source of the amsoil drop me a private message and I can get you hooked up.
Do some Tundra's come with trans coolers from the factory? I thought this was part of the tow package.
prior to 2003 the external transmission cooler was standard on all V8's. For 2003 and newer it is part of the TO towing package (note it is not included with the DH towing option)
Towing options available:
DH - includes the drop hitch receiver, converter, and a 4-pin plug. Available on all vehicles.
TO - includes drop hitch receiver, converter, a 7-pin plug, wiring to connect brake controller, 130-Amp. Alternator, and Transmission Cooler. Available on V8 automatic transmission vehicles only
why does a normal service only replace a small amount of fluid??
is a flush really better??
if a flush is better... why isnt it normal for a service??
Under normal driving conditions, periodically replacing just 1/4 of the ATF usually gets the transmission past the 100,000 mile. At this point, Toyota Financial is off the hook in case the buyer bought an extended service contract from them. There is pressure to show reduced maintenance requirements and costs. The dealerships often pack a lot of marginally necessary stuff into their routine services, but the book doesn't call for a lot of service. After 100k, most folks expect big repair bills, and aren't shocked that they need a transmission transplant.
If that same buyer did a complete ATF flush and renewal every 30,000 miles, or a drain & refill every 2nd oil change (10k), the transmission would likely last for a couple of hundred thousand miles or more.
I strongly agree with using synthetic ATF (Mobil 1 is excellent) in 2000-2002 transmissions that call for Dexron-III ATF. By the way, later this year the new spec, Dexron-III(H) ATF, both synthetic and conventional, will be on retailers' shelves. It probably offers 50% to 100% greater ATF life than the current Dexron-III(G).
With the cost of synthetic ATF and the complete flush routine, doing an oil analysis of synthetic ATF every 30k is a money saver. I analysed my synthetic ATF at 30k, and it was in excellent condition with no need for a change. I am running an external ATF filter. Toyotas do not have an internal transmission filter, just a screen.
Ken
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TRD/Eaton Limited Slip Differential
Gibson exhaust system
Hellwig Rear Antisway Bar
Sylvania Xenarc H.I.D. X1010 Auxiliary Low Beam Driving Lights
Schaeffer Engine Oil, ATF, Differential Oil
Racor LFS22825 full-flow transmission filter
Towing a 21' Bigfoot trailer using a Hensley Arrow hitch, Jordan brake controller, McKesh mirrors
I'm presently using the Racor LFS 22825 transmission filter on my Tundra. I've also used the Magnefine filter, and have a SPX Filtran filter for the Volvo which will get an ATF flush & refill as soon as Schaeffer has their new synthetic Dexron-III(H) ATF in distribution.
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You get what you inspect
Not what you expect.
S&S Long Tube Hi-Torque Headers
TRD/Eaton Limited Slip Differential
Gibson exhaust system
Hellwig Rear Antisway Bar
Sylvania Xenarc H.I.D. X1010 Auxiliary Low Beam Driving Lights
Schaeffer Engine Oil, ATF, Differential Oil
Racor LFS22825 full-flow transmission filter
Towing a 21' Bigfoot trailer using a Hensley Arrow hitch, Jordan brake controller, McKesh mirrors
(9) Install a shift kit or modified valve body- while normally thought of as a "high performance" modification, almost any vehicle will benefit from shortening the shift time, reducing overlap and "cleaning up" the shift quality. This in turn reduces heat and also reduces wear on the clutches and bands.
-John
Who can you suggest for #9 ?
I would like to do this, and everything else you listed, for both my Tundra and T100.
Thunder Gray Metallic
2002 REGULAR CAB - LONG BED - 4WD - V8 - SR5
TRD / Kazuma LSD made by EATON
Bilstein HD shocks
Michelin 8 ply E series radials
JBA headers
Hellwig rear bar
Line-X over the rail
2005 tail lights
OEM Door Sill protectors
TRD Off-Road front coil springs
Color matched LEER Hi-Top cap
Wet Okole Sport Seat Covers
Tinted Windows
OEM Rubber Bed Mat
OEM All-Weather mats
OEM Towing Package with Remote Transmission Cooler
Who can you suggest for #9 ?
I would like to do this, and everything else you listed, for both my Tundra and T100.
transdude can. He is the owner of IPT.
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Can high grade synthetic ATF fluids (Amsoil, Mobile 1, etc.) benfit from additives? I had someone suggest that I add Lubegard Red to my tranny (I have Amsoil Universal ATF in my '02 Tundra).
O.K. Since my 03 tundra didn't come with trans cooler, I'm going to order this cooler and this inline filter. At Magnefine's web site it states that a vehicle with less than 5000 miles install filter on cooler supply side. I'm unsure were I should be. Also I'm unsure if I need the 3/8 or 5/16 size.
Can high grade synthetic ATF fluids (Amsoil, Mobile 1, etc.) benfit from additives? I had someone suggest that I add Lubegard Red to my tranny (I have Amsoil Universal ATF in my '02 Tundra).
Brian
The Black LubeGard is more appropriate for Toyota transmissions, and LubeGard would certainly be a benefit to the trans.
Also, I can get anyone who needs them Filtran inline filters, Long Tru- Cool trans coolers, LubeGard, etc.
The Black LubeGard is more appropriate for Toyota transmissions, and LubeGard would certainly be a benefit to the trans.
Also, I can get anyone who needs them Filtran inline filters, Long Tru- Cool trans coolers, LubeGard, etc.
-John
Is this true for pre '03 Tundra's too? In '03 the fluid spec. changed from Dextron III to T-IV. Do the earlier tranny's benefit from a "highly friction modified" fluid?
O.K. Since my 03 tundra didn't come with trans cooler, I'm going to order this cooler and this inline filter. At Magnefine's web site it states that a vehicle with less than 5000 miles install filter on cooler supply side. I'm unsure were I should be. Also I'm unsure if I need the 3/8 or 5/16 size.
Greg
3/8" for the transmission, 1/2" for the power steering return line, if you wish to install one.
The thought about installing a filter on the outlet of the cooler after 5k is that the cooler might trap some crud that you don't want to pass to the transmission. The other thought is that you always want to filter hotter oil...the thinner oil passes through the filter media more easily.
Ken
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You get what you inspect
Not what you expect.
S&S Long Tube Hi-Torque Headers
TRD/Eaton Limited Slip Differential
Gibson exhaust system
Hellwig Rear Antisway Bar
Sylvania Xenarc H.I.D. X1010 Auxiliary Low Beam Driving Lights
Schaeffer Engine Oil, ATF, Differential Oil
Racor LFS22825 full-flow transmission filter
Towing a 21' Bigfoot trailer using a Hensley Arrow hitch, Jordan brake controller, McKesh mirrors
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