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Old 07-14-2004, 04:33 PM
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I was stuck in detour traffic yesterday - switched OFF the overdrive (button on shift lever), drove for a bit and then switched OD back ON (button on shift lever).

I somehow managed to INVERT the OD indicator status light and actual OD status - that is "OD OFF" light was lit and the transmission was in normal mode - switch to "OD ON" (indicator light out) and the transmission was clearly in 3 speed mode (increased rpm for given speed - dropped out of OD)

Stopped, shut off engine, removed key, opened door to simulated "I've gone home" and then restarted - all was back to normal!

I did hit the button twice very quickly to get back into OD mode (though I missed the first time) - hard to believe I "outdrew" the ECU ;-)

My assumption is that hitting the button signals a "change of state" to the ECU, and trips a solenoid in the transmission. I managed to get the solenoid and indicator light out of synch???

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this one ;-)

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Old 07-14-2004, 04:46 PM
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It's a common trait and has probably happened or will to all of us at one time. Drove us all nuts unless we'd read about it here first.
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Yup, I've done it, and so have a few others. The only fix is to turn off the ignition and start her up again.
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I haven't managed that but, I have managed to remove the key and the engine continued to run. Now that was a trip.
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Thanks all

In my world of computer consulting this type of glitch is known as an "undocumented feature".

Now we just have to find out a way to exploit it . . . .


Does kinda take you by surprise - wondered if I had the emergency brake on, etc. I'm guessing the 04 or 05 models have this "feature" removed?

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In my world of computer consulting this type of glitch is known as an "undocumented feature".

Now we just have to find out a way to exploit it . . . .
hahahaha... I take it you're pretty familiar with Redmond's finest code factory and the problems they create.
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My 04 does it. Makes me not want to use it for that reason. Its annoying to drive in normal mode and have the light stay on.

It only happens some times, not every time. Like the others said. Cycling the key will reset it.
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I managed to do this just today - or the truck did it to me. If I hadn't read about the problem here earlier this week I would have freaked out! Great thread.
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Default Be more deliberate with the OD switch

AFAIK, the cause is always pushing the OD switch twice in very rapid succession (less than about a second between pushes). The ECU light reacts faster than the transmission so they get out of synch. In theory, another set of two rapid pushes on the switch would reverse the out of synch situation but I've never tried it. Yes, a complete turn off of the ignition switch allows a full reset.

It's very easy to avoid the problem though. First, don't be messing with the OD switch willy-nilly...use it only when you really need to turn OD off. And when you do need to turn it off, give the button one, firm, deliberate push and then give the system time to react before pushing the button again. Once I started following this approach, I've had zero out of synch situations...despite regularly turning off OD to tow a moderately heavy (3800 lb) trailer.
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i did it on my '03 and didn't have to restart to get it back right again. I just pressed it twice quickly again. funny thing is i didn't press it twice quickly to make it happen, maybe i just didn't press the button far enough or something.
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Yes, I have this same problem. Dealer says they can't duplicate the problem so is probably NORMAL.
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You guys do know that your torque converter locks up when you hit the "OD off" button. For my Tacoma, which I believe has the same tranny the tundra has, when I turn the OD off, my torque converter locks up in 3rd gear at 50 mph. This is why when you turn it back on your rpms might raise like it's going into a lower gear but it's just the torque converter unlocking.

When I race the 1/4 mile, I leave the OD on until I hit 4600 rpm in 3rd, then I hit the button to turn the OD off right before it would usually shift into OD and the rpms drop a bit and at that point the truck seems to pull it's hardest. Had I raced with the OD off, my rpms would be lower and it doesn't run as fast.
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