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This is a discussion thread titled "what was your timing belt and water pump labor cost?", within the Engine & Drivetrain forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
what was your timing belt and water pump labor cost?
not parts, JUST labor.
i just provided ~400$ worth of parts (314$ if you get them from carson), and just got a work estimate of 600 bucks. please post up with your numbers for parts & labor, or just labor, or the number of hours it took for the tech to perform the work. if you know the book hourly estimate for the task, please post that as well.
To get a good estimate, you need to state what labor is being performed.
Does the cost you were quoted just cover the cost of the timing belt replacement? Or are you also replacing the water pump, timing idlers, timing tensioner, thermostadt, cam seals, crank seals, etc.
Quotes can vary quite a bit depending on the above.
This is also a great time to take a measurement of all your valves, so when you measure them at the next timing belt change (180K), you'll know if they are moving.
This is also a great time to take a measurement of all your valves, so when you measure them at the next timing belt change (180K), you'll know if they are moving.
is this a common thing on these trucks? i didnt know the valves were adjustable.
Yes, the valves are adjustable. The way you adjust them is to measure the gap.....determine if it is in spec.......if not, replace the existing shim with a shim that is the correct thickness. The shop manual has the entire listing of shim sizes needed to obtain the correct gap. In addition, the manual lists the formula to compute the shim size needed once you have the gap and the existing shim size.
Note: on the Tundra, the cam shafts have to be removed in order to replace a shim. The Toyota v6's could be changed with a screwdriver and a magnet.
Toyota recommends the valve measurement at 90K intervals on the Tundra. Have the measurements recorded by the tech. If they are all in spec, then you won't need an adjustment now....but having the gap recorded....the next time you do the measurement (180K), you will know the history and can determine which way they are moving (if at all).
I had a problem with my Toyota V6 valves (Toyota got a bad batch), and wouldn't have known if I didn't do the check (60K intervals on the v6). It was a real pain, since I had to go to 3 different Toyota dealerships to get all the correct size shims. Seems none of the dealerships carried a "complete" set of shim sizes. What a pain.
If a valve gets out of spec, you can burn it, and that is big bucks to fix, compared to a shim replacement.
No, the heads do not have to come off.....you only have to remove the valve covers, which are conveniently already removed for the timing belt replacement.
This is why it is the best logical time to do the valve clearance check.
Be sure to tell the technician (in writing) to record the clearance for each valve.....otherwise they may just come back and say they were all "in spec", but you would then have no history recorded.
The design is very solid....and the shims do not wear much at all....so, if you're lucky, the valves will all be in spec and you won't have any adjustments to do.
It doesn't take very long to measure the clearances once the valve covers are off.
My truck has almost 143,000 miles on it and I was going to have the valves adjusted since they were going to be keeping it anyway for the timing belt & water pump. The Toyota dealer stated that the valve adjustment alone takes 11.2 hours. Could this possible be correct?
I replaced my own timing belt at 90K, along with water pump, cam/crank seals, idlers, tensioner, thermostadt, etc. I measured the valves at the same time.
You have to remove the valve covers to do the timing belt. It only took me an additional 20 minutes to measure the valves. All were in spec.
Now if some valves needed adjustment....you have to remove the cam to replace the shim, and that could get in to some time. Certainly not 11 hours...but more like an hour or so.
But if they are all in spec.....only takes a little bit of time for the actual measurement.
what was your timing belt and water pump labor cost?
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