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Old 09-24-2004, 02:45 PM
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OK gang the guys with 03's+ know all about the 3/4 throttle position giving way to wot but full pedal down lends to less than wot....so
i was out looking around under the pedal and was thinking if i could put somthing under the pedal so it would attach to the bottem of the pedal (and never fall off accidentally) then i could limit the travel leading way to 3/4 throttle position.

the underside of the pedal is formed plastic with holes in it- i was wondering about some high density foam or rubber cut to fit tight in the holes---
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Old 09-24-2004, 07:12 PM
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OK gang the guys with 03's+ know all about the 3/4 throttle position giving way to wot but full pedal down lends to less than wot....so
i was out looking around under the pedal and was thinking if i could put somthing under the pedal so it would attach to the bottem of the pedal (and never fall off accidentally) then i could limit the travel leading way to 3/4 throttle position.

the underside of the pedal is formed plastic with holes in it- i was wondering about some high density foam or rubber cut to fit tight in the holes---
any other ideas?

What are you talking about???? 3/4 throttle gives way to WOT??? And full throttle does not. I've got a new 04 and I don't have that problem.

I know when you accelerate from a stop at about 1/2 to 3/4 throttle, you can feel the ECU continue to open the throttle plate even without moving your pedal, but this is normal for a "drive by wire" type of a ECU controlled throttle.

If I press the throttle to the floor, the ECU will open the throttle plate wide open and hold it there. So you have me confused.
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I was kinda disappointed that the Unichip install didn't do away with this feature.

I'd like to mat it and melt the rear tires if my heart desires (it doesn't most of the time). It does aggravate me that I can't even power brake it from a dead stop though...
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...It does aggravate me that I can't even power brake it from a dead stop though...
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Was that water under your tires?

My truck will only power brake if I'm on wet or slick pavement. From a dead stop on dry pavement, it won't even turn them over at all. It's sad really...
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Was that water under your tires?

My truck will only power brake if I'm on wet or slick pavement. From a dead stop on dry pavement, it won't even turn them over at all. It's sad really...
It was bleach under the tires - I can smoke the tires on dry pavement - if you look at the video, you will see a second set of marks...that's where I missed the bleach (oops ). My tires were dry at that time. You just need to finesse your truck a little bit. You can do it.

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It was bleach under the tires - I can smoke the tires on dry pavement - if you look at the video, you will see a second set of marks...that's where I missed the bleach (oops ). My tires were dry at that time. You just need to finesse your truck a little bit. You can do it.

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What do you mean by finesse? Please elaborate...
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What do you mean by finesse? Please elaborate...
Well...the brake pedal is your friend - don't have it all the way down or you'll go nowhere - I think if you let it (brake) out just a little bit, you'll fake out the torque converter. At least that's what I have come to the conclusion... I have the brake out just enough to make the truck inch forward. At that point, go back and forth with the brake and gas to where you have a nice equilibrium. I wish I had some more concrete evidence to support you with, and what I have told you thus far may be extremely inaccurate. My apologies. However, I do know that with a little bit of practice, one can break the rear end loose on dry pavement. I'm sure there are some variables that may cause your rear end to have a more difficult experience breaking loose such as meaty tires, lack of power (i.e. headers, exhaust, etc.), and inexperience. If you have some crappy tires that you want to burn off before your next set, just play around with your truck. C'mon, it's a Tundra, it's going to hold up. You have no weight in the rear end - something has to give. I hope I have helped in the least bit. Good day.

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Well...the brake pedal is your friend - don't have it all the way down or you'll go nowhere - I think if you let it (brake) out just a little bit, you'll fake out the torque converter. At least that's what I have come to the conclusion... I have the brake out just enough to make the truck inch forward. At that point, go back and forth with the brake and gas to where you have a nice equilibrium. I wish I had some more concrete evidence to support you with, and what I have told you thus far may be extremely inaccurate. My apologies. However, I do know that with a little bit of practice, one can break the rear end loose on dry pavement. I'm sure there are some variables that may cause your rear end to have a more difficult experience breaking loose such as meaty tires, lack of power (i.e. headers, exhaust, etc.), and inexperience. If you have some crappy tires that you want to burn off before your next set, just play around with your truck. C'mon, it's a Tundra, it's going to hold up. You have no weight in the rear end - something has to give. I hope I have helped in the least bit. Good day.

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Maybe you should just hold a "burnout school". Did you have a good day at school kids?! The old RT's are definitely burnout material, but my opinion is you are faking the ABS rather than the converter. In either case they'll burn if you learn. Practice practice practice, eventually everyone can do it well.
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Maybe you should just hold a "burnout school". Did you have a good day at school kids?! The old RT's are definitely burnout material, but my opinion is you are faking the ABS rather than the converter. In either case they'll burn if you learn. Practice practice practice, eventually everyone can do it well.
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Just find a Ford F-150 Vintage 92-96 5.0- 5.8 Liter , with the shifter in D at the count of 3, mash the gas pedal to the floor and then feather the gas pedal to prevent igniting the tire and pavement. Class Over
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You can power brake.. trust me... sometime you want to hit the gas alittle and then hit the brake to get the truck to go forward and it should start spinning... I would make a instructional video but... forget the but... i might do it and post it on here When i did it umm my ABS light turned on :P hehehe The LSD worked well too
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In my 96 Chevy with the 350, powerbraking was a breeze. None of this having to work it to get the tires to turn over.

The 4.7 should have plenty of low end (even with duals) to get the rear loose anytime you want. There has got to be a way around this gas pedal garbage.
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In my 96 Chevy with the 350, powerbraking was a breeze. None of this having to work it to get the tires to turn over.

The 4.7 should have plenty of low end (even with duals) to get the rear loose anytime you want. There has got to be a way around this gas pedal garbage.
i agree, this gas pedal crap is annoying. tell me how a stock s10 v6 can hang with me.
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OK gang the guys with 03's+ know all about the 3/4 throttle position giving way to wot but full pedal down lends to less than wot....so
i was out looking around under the pedal and was thinking if i could put somthing under the pedal so it would attach to the bottem of the pedal (and never fall off accidentally) then i could limit the travel leading way to 3/4 throttle position.

the underside of the pedal is formed plastic with holes in it- i was wondering about some high density foam or rubber cut to fit tight in the holes---
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Ya...I actually designed a billet pedal cover that has an adjustable bolt stop under it for fine tuning. I'm just am too damn busy to follow up on it. If we get 20 guys wanting one I'll make it..need that to cover tooling costs. I'll post a cad model in the next week.

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