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This is a discussion thread titled "2005 Tacoma and still use clutch fan", within the Engine & Drivetrain forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
I dont get this. its 2005 and they are still using the old *** clutch fan in these trucks. I mean why cant they use electric ones already. Thats one thing that bothers me cause you can hear that big thing whirling around in there. I am sure 2 electric fans would have just as much airflow as this one does. Has anyone thought about converting to electric on their new 05. Would we use the same fan as the people who did it on the previous generation.
I dont get this. its 2005 and they are still using the old *** clutch fan in these trucks. I mean why cant they use electric ones already. Thats one thing that bothers me cause you can hear that big thing whirling around in there. I am sure 2 electric fans would have just as much airflow as this one does. Has anyone thought about converting to electric on their new 05. Would we use the same fan as the people who did it on the previous generation.
Good thought for a conversion, but I have had only one fan cluch go out on me in the past 4 toy PU I have owned. Most of them went over 100,000 miles and many have hit 200,000. I think a reliable thing should not be ditched.
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its not about the reliability. I mean they are soo loud and majority of the engine noise u hear is that damn thing spinning. I like it if all you heard under the hood was the engine and hear the exhaust also. not the hugh WHOOSH sound of a beat *** plastic clutch fan.
why would you want a clutch fan over electric. It robs power. puts more strain on the motor and is loud. only area i can think it being better if you off road alot and worried about large amounts of water and dirt and mud. I have an Xrunner. So none of those would apply to me
why would you want a clutch fan over electric. It robs power. puts more strain on the motor and is loud. only area i can think it being better if you off road alot and worried about large amounts of water and dirt and mud. I have an Xrunner. So none of those would apply to me
Because I've owned cars with electric fans - and had them fail. Sitting in traffic watching your temp needle climb is not fun. I'll give up the little bit of power to keep from warping a head.
I've just had bad experiences with all the electric fan cooled cars that I've ever owned. My moto is keep it simple..
I guess if you wanted to you could run an electric water and oil pump too - but I wouldn't drive that thing in traffic.
Actually, electric fans may have advantage offroading.
A LC forum member mentioned that when driving with fan under water, fan blades may get damaged from pull water (higher density than air). If the (sealed) fan is electric, one can manually turn it off.
Actually, electric fans may have advantage offroading.
A LC forum member mentioned that when driving with fan under water, fan blades may get damaged from pull water (higher density than air). If the (sealed) fan is electric, one can manually turn it off.
A friend of mine did that on his civic. He could turn on or shut it off with the fick of a switch.
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I wish I could find the link I had that compared the horsepower used with an e-fan and a clutch fan. They put a vehicle on a dyno and did it both ways and with the clutch fan disengaged the horsepower used was the same as with the efan.
actually, it is about reliability...that's why theyre using the hydromechanical linkage. it's the best and simplest way to guarantee the flow rate the engineers calculated as necessary to sufficiently cool the engine in the worst possible conditions.
a lotta the noise is the air being pulled by the fan. you wont lose the airflow noise by going electric...i had an old pos saab once with an auxiliary electric fan, i could tell it was on by the vibration and the noise. no belts anywhere, not connected to the engine. also, the torque drawn to run the fan is negligable...a couple pounds or so, out of 250+? not really a big deal. youre better off getting an underdrive pulley if you want a little more bump.
converting to electric isn't something to diy with a 100$ generic kit unless you know exactly what youre doing. yes, the flex-a-lite costs 100$...for the fan. the rest of the parts will bump the price up near 700 bucks or so, because you need the controllers so it'll perform as well as your stock fan.
search in the engine and drivetrain forum for the tundra conversion threads, your process will be similar and you may want to talk to flex-a-lite directly.
Electric fans also need to be integrated with the Air Conditioning system as well. Every car that I have had with an electric fan.....the fans come on when the A/C is switched on. I am assuming that this is to pulll air across the condenser when not moving........and keep the engine cool as well. Sounds like a whole lotta trouble for very little gain to me. Just my .02
2005 and still use clutch fan
