Well, I've been busting my balls trying to figure out what differential I want to put in my open-diff 2WD. I have a TRD/Kazuma LSD unit that I bought online still boxed up in my garage. I've been lagging on having it installed due to time and money. I'm finally ready to install the thing, but after reading numerous posts on No-Slip lockers (and contemplating whether the TRD unit will be enough to get me thru some slop) I definately find myself confused.... AGAIN!
My truck is mainly used on the streets and I do some light hauling on occasion (+1 LSD). I do some mild off-roading and have already found myself stuck in some messy mud (+1 No-Slip). In the winter, I also go up to the mountains where I find myself in icy conditions (+1 LSD). Adjusting to the locker wouldn't be a big prob since I'm not that 'heavy-footed' (+1 No-Slip), but my girlfriend is (+1 LSD) The factors seem go back and forth! Everything from the practical advantages and disadvantages, all the way down to the cost and ease of installation. I want something that is going to give me a little more confidence going into an off-road situation since I'm only 2WD, but nothing that's overkill on the streets. Since I don't personally know anyone who has one, I could only go by other member's opinions when they say that the No-Slip is streetable, and that's why I haven't ruled this option out.
Since some people have complained about friction plate wear associated with clutch-type LSDs, I'm aslo looking into the Detroit TrueTrac. Any opinions? Besides being gear-type, how do they differ from the TRD (in terms of performance)? Also, is the install basically the same as the TRD unit (meaning do I have to buy bearings and such from the dealer)?
Please help me choose the right diff! Thanks guys!
__________________ 2001 Toyota Tundra TRD Ivan Stewart Signature Edition
It really depends on where you drive your truck most. Street or Off road. If mostly street and occasional offroad/snow/mud, you are better off with LSD. If more offroad/snow and mud, lockers is the way to go but you still only have a 2wd drive tundra. So rock climbing and boulders for the matter is out of the question. There is also a learning curve when driving and making turns when you get either units especially on slick, icy or wet conditions. But for the most part in your case, LSD should handle most of the traction you need considering you only have a 2 wheel drive truck.
By the way, if you decide to go to a locker, let me know if you want to unload the trd/kazuma unit you have. PM me if you do.
Thanks
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Well, I've been busting my balls trying to figure out what differential I want to put in my open-diff 2WD. I have a TRD/Kazuma LSD unit that I bought online still boxed up in my garage. I've been lagging on having it installed due to time and money. I'm finally ready to install the thing, but after reading numerous posts on No-Slip lockers (and contemplating whether the TRD unit will be enough to get me thru some slop) I definately find myself confused.... AGAIN!
My truck is mainly used on the streets and I do some light hauling on occasion (+1 LSD). I do some mild off-roading and have already found myself stuck in some messy mud (+1 No-Slip). In the winter, I also go up to the mountains where I find myself in icy conditions (+1 LSD). Adjusting to the locker wouldn't be a big prob since I'm not that 'heavy-footed' (+1 No-Slip), but my girlfriend is (+1 LSD) The factors seem go back and forth! Everything from the practical advantages and disadvantages, all the way down to the cost and ease of installation. I want something that is going to give me a little more confidence going into an off-road situation since I'm only 2WD, but nothing that's overkill on the streets. Since I don't personally know anyone who has one, I could only go by other member's opinions when they say that the No-Slip is streetable, and that's why I haven't ruled this option out.
Since some people have complained about friction plate wear associated with clutch-type LSDs, I'm aslo looking into the Detroit TrueTrac. Any opinions? Besides being gear-type, how do they differ from the TRD (in terms of performance)? Also, is the install basically the same as the TRD unit (meaning do I have to buy bearings and such from the dealer)?
Please help me choose the right diff! Thanks guys!
You sound like the perfect candidate for the LSD you currently own. The difference between that and a no-slip in a 2wd application is negligible. To do anything serious off road you would need a 4wd anyway, so you're talking taking a trail head or forest access road at the most. Anything more, and you will get stuck, again needing 4wd. The Eaton unit is a good diff, especially the TRD unit with it's higher pressure springs and good clutch plate material. If you purchased the diff as a complete third member, install it yourself, it's really easy, and save installation costs. Good Luck!
__________________ 2001 Factory I. S., TRD supercharger, Downey headers, K&N FIPK w/ ram air, Flowmaster muffler, home built dual exhaust exiting through cutout in side of bed, 5-link SAS w/ King 12" coilovers and Rubicon Express flex joints, Alcan 7-leaf rear springs, home made shackle flip, U-bolt flip kit, homemade traction bar, Bilstien 5150 14" travel rear shocks on O.R.S. mounts, rebuilt IFS steering box with 1.5" ram, braided lines, 4.88 gears w/ front and rear ARBs, Eagle Racing 15X10 589's, 37" XT's, ARB front bumper, T-Max 9500, Synthetic winch rope, spray-in bed liner, Rhino coated homemade roof rack, rock sliders, and rear bumper/slider, roof, and lower side body Rino liner coated, 4 Pro-Comp lights 130 watt driving lights, 2: roof rack, 2: bumper mounted
Well, I've been busting my balls trying to figure out what differential I want to put in my open-diff 2WD. I have a TRD/Kazuma LSD unit that I bought online still boxed up in my garage. I've been lagging on having it installed due to time and money. I'm finally ready to install the thing, but after reading numerous posts on No-Slip lockers (and contemplating whether the TRD unit will be enough to get me thru some slop) I definately find myself confused.... AGAIN!
My truck is mainly used on the streets and I do some light hauling on occasion (+1 LSD). I do some mild off-roading and have already found myself stuck in some messy mud (+1 No-Slip). In the winter, I also go up to the mountains where I find myself in icy conditions (+1 LSD). Adjusting to the locker wouldn't be a big prob since I'm not that 'heavy-footed' (+1 No-Slip), but my girlfriend is (+1 LSD) The factors seem go back and forth! Everything from the practical advantages and disadvantages, all the way down to the cost and ease of installation. I want something that is going to give me a little more confidence going into an off-road situation since I'm only 2WD, but nothing that's overkill on the streets. Since I don't personally know anyone who has one, I could only go by other member's opinions when they say that the No-Slip is streetable, and that's why I haven't ruled this option out.
Since some people have complained about friction plate wear associated with clutch-type LSDs, I'm aslo looking into the Detroit TrueTrac. Any opinions? Besides being gear-type, how do they differ from the TRD (in terms of performance)? Also, is the install basically the same as the TRD unit (meaning do I have to buy bearings and such from the dealer)?
Please help me choose the right diff! Thanks guys!
Sounds like of all the options you are considering, this is the order:
1. Truetrac
2. Locker
3. LSD
4. New g.f (just kidding)
My girlfriend HATES driving my truck with the lockers, feathering the gas is something she has yet to adjust to. I have had experience with Ford's LSD and the No Slip and-for my purposes-I like the No Slip more as I hated replacing clutch plates every 36K miles, and the fact that after about 15-20K miles the truck started to lose traction very quickly. LSDs are MUCH more street friendly and are helped considerably by bringing up the rear of a 4WD.
Check with user CBchief (I think he's the guy that has the Truetrac)
Upgrades: PA 3" Body Lift, Powertrax No-Slip rear, Detroit ezLocker front, Fabtech/Fox front, Wheeler's AALs, TC Front Diff Drop, 16 x 8 MB Wheels, 285/75R16 Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs, Pioneer Head Unit, Infiniti Reference speakers [front and rear], 150 W bridged amp to bandpass enclosure, 6 CD changer with IR remote, iPod mini and xm hardwired into stereo, Toyota drop in bedliner, and Tonneau cover
We had the lsd LSD in the diff housing in about 2.5hrs
For daily driving LSD is great- You've got a 2wd anyways- so if you really wanteds to wheel - 4wd would have been the way to go- Even a locked rear is no compensation for open/open 4wd.
My bro & I both have 4wd Tacomas-
I installed an ARB in my truck
And we installed an LSD in my bro's truck
Since they are both Daily drivers- he will definitely get more out of the LSD than I will from the ARB - when on the road.
Confused about diffs...
The factors seem go back and forth! Everything from the practical advantages and disadvantages, all the way down to the cost and ease of installation. I want something that is going to give me a little more confidence going into an off-road situation since I'm only 2WD, but nothing that's overkill on the streets. Since I don't personally know anyone who has one, I could only go by other member's opinions when they say that the No-Slip is streetable, and that's why I haven't ruled this option out.
2001 Factory I. S., TRD supercharger, Downey headers, K&N FIPK w/ ram air, Flowmaster muffler, home built dual exhaust exiting through cutout in side of bed, 5-link SAS w/ King 12" coilovers and Rubicon Express flex joints, Alcan 7-leaf rear springs, home made shackle flip, U-bolt flip kit, homemade traction bar, Bilstien 5150 14" travel rear shocks on O.R.S. mounts, rebuilt IFS steering box with 1.5" ram, braided lines, 4.88 gears w/ front and rear ARBs, Eagle Racing 15X10 589's, 37" XT's, ARB front bumper, T-Max 9500, Synthetic winch rope, spray-in bed liner, Rhino coated homemade roof rack, rock sliders, and rear bumper/slider, roof, and lower side body Rino liner coated, 4 Pro-Comp lights 130 watt driving lights, 2: roof rack, 2: bumper mounted
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