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Old 07-18-2005, 12:16 AM
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Hi, I have a 2001 access cab with 130,000 Km. The transmission started shifting VERY HARD into overdrive. It would shift hard at times and be OK at other times. I drove it to the dealer and the check engine light came on. The service fellow says the code reads a problem with the shifting solenoid. He stated that if it was not the solenoid then I would need a new transmission as they do not do repairs to trans. He has a call into JAPAN to see if this is a problem on the Tundras. Has any one experienced anything similar? I find it hard to believe that as customers we should pay for a complete transmission when the problem is the overdrive they cannot fix. Are there any TSB on this?

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Old 07-18-2005, 07:21 AM
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I have been similar problems with my truck. I have not had a check engine light come on yet. The problem that bothers me is the weak 1st to 2nd shift that sometimes seems to slip into gear. I have a platnium warranty so I'll try to get it replaced soon.
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If it's not the solenoid, it's the OD Planetary Gear. There's a thread about early model tundras having faulty transmissions.

My Transmission Croaked!

Like several other members, I'm on my 2nd transmission. To service a tranny takes a lot of time and money. If it is a blown OD gear, to take it apart and clean all the pathways would be way more expensive than just to have a refurbed one sent in. I asked around my area for the cost to rebuild my tranny, cost was between $1500 - $2000. That doesn't include replacing any damaged parts. Such as the OD planetary gear and most likely the ring gear. Which is at least another $1000 from the dealer.

This is definitely a problem but, Toyota is not doing anything as far as a recall or TSB. At 74K miles, none of the dealers or Toyota USA or Japan will do anything for me. I've sent pictures, emails, calls, more emails. All the replies pretty much stated, "Sorry but, there's nothing we are going to do." I have a couple of pics in my gallery of the bad OD gear and what the bottom of my tranny pan looked like when I removed. I would suggest removing yours to see if you find any metal shavings.
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[quote=dyogim]If it's not the solenoid, it's the OD Planetary Gear. There's a thread about early model tundras having faulty transmissions.

It's not just the earlier tundra's. Count me in on a 2nd tranny, my 03 Tundra got its 2nd at 17,000 miles. Took my truck in after experiencing a delay after shifting out of park into reverse or drive. Two days later had my truck back with a new tranny. 10,000 miles since and the addition of some 33s and not a problem to speak of. (crossing my fingers for luck).
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Thank you everyone for your reply. The dealer removed the pan and they found metal. The only option was to replace the transmission. We worked out a deal where we split the cost. I'm still disappointed, but they are accommodating and I'm thankful for that. In the past threads there were talk of a bad batch of gears. How was this determined?

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Thank you everyone for your reply. The dealer removed the pan and they found metal. The only option was to replace the transmission. We worked out a deal where we split the cost. I'm still disappointed, but they are accommodating and I'm thankful for that. In the past threads there were talk of a bad batch of gears. How was this determined?

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I am not sure about the 01's but for sure there is a weak OD gear in the 00's.

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Thank you everyone for your reply. The dealer removed the pan and they found metal. The only option was to replace the transmission. We worked out a deal where we split the cost. I'm still disappointed, but they are accommodating and I'm thankful for that. In the past threads there were talk of a bad batch of gears. How was this determined?

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what did you say to persuade them to split the cost with you??
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what did you say to persuade them to split the cost with you??
Very little actually. They offered a 50/50 split, and I tried to get more, but.. They made their decision based on the fact that I brought my truck to the dealer for service as required. Of course they noted that all of the cost would have been covered by the extended warranty. As it turns out the (at the moment any way) the cost of the transmission is slightly more than the cost of the extended warranty, so I guess I'm no further ahead or behind.
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I have an '05 and it slamed into 3rd. The dealer said mine was the first '05 to have tranny problems. They put a brand new tranny in last week. Works great now.
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My 01 started sputtering about a week ago. It has 79k miles on it. It only happens when I'm coasting in low rpm's and then hit the accelerator. I've actually had it die on me a few times as well, once on the freeway. I dropped it off at the dealership earlier today, and then started reading up on the 00 - 01 transmission problems and began preparing myself for the worst . Then I got a call back from the dealership and the mechanic said that an engine diagnostic test showed that there was something wrong with the position of the throttle body. He's gonna fix it and he assured me the problem would be solved.

I've got a bad feeling I'm still gonna wind up having to replace the tranny
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Sounds like you and I have the same problems but my truck won't go in to forth at all and thats how it started. And I have only 34k miles. I'm in the middle of seeing if the factory warranty will cover it with the mode that I have made.
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Sounds like you and I have the same problems but my truck won't go in to forth at all and thats how it started. And I have only 34k miles. I'm in the middle of seeing if the factory warranty will cover it with the mode that I have made.
Remove the tranny pan to be sure you have a blown OD gear/ring gear.
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Hi, I have a 2001 access cab with 130,000 Km. The transmission started shifting VERY HARD into overdrive. It would shift hard at times and be OK at other times. I drove it to the dealer and the check engine light came on. The service fellow says the code reads a problem with the shifting solenoid. He stated that if it was not the solenoid then I would need a new transmission as they do not do repairs to trans. He has a call into JAPAN to see if this is a problem on the Tundras. Has any one experienced anything similar? I find it hard to believe that as customers we should pay for a complete transmission when the problem is the overdrive they cannot fix. Are there any TSB on this?

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dont know of any tsb's but i have 2000 with 64,000 and at 58,000 toyota replaced my unit because my was shifting hard and they didn't want to go into it but it is most likely the epc selenoid ( electronic pressure control )
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The EPC got replaced? So how much did that cost versus a brand new tranny? Also, did it fix the problem?
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The EPC got replaced? So how much did that cost versus a brand new tranny? Also, did it fix the problem?
no they replaced the whole trans because manufacter would not let them go into it, if they had changed the epc it would have been alot cheaper then replacing the unit. the unit was more than $ 2,500 cant remember the price. the epc would be more like $ 250.00 installed at a tranny shop and trust me that would be a good idea if you have never been in a asian warner tranny (i worked on trannies for 5 yrs) when and if you have to pull the valve body things will begin to fall and if you dont know were they go and how they go back your screwed! also yes the new trans fixed the problem.
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