TOP MOUNTED Single Turbo Bolt on Kit!!!!

[Hollywood03]

Hey guys, as most of you know I have completed my Turbo project and have seen 400RWHP/500RWTQ at 7psi. I now have almost 6000 miles on the kit with no problems. I have recently been thinking of producing the Turbo system as a kit with all mandrel bent tubing, headers, boost controller options, Turbo Options, etc...pretty much giving any of you the ability to bolt on a top mounted, intercooled turbo kit. The biggest part of the design of this kit is the way the turbo is mounted. The spool time with a standard non-ball bearing turbo is negligble (full boost at 3K RPMs). This allows for the power to be made earlier and gives huge gains in not only low end torque but in the top end horsepower grunt, and most of all keeps the cost down. One of the largest advantages with this style of kit is, unless you plan on making more than 700rwhp, only minor upgrades will be required. Depending on options the kit will be offered at a competetitive price to other "single" turbo kits on the market at this point.

In the kit I plan to include everything down to the smallest bolts and detailed instructions of what needs to be done to install the kit. Even a pre flashed fuel managment system if that is the option you want

What I need from you all is an estimate of how many people may be interested in purchasing the kit. I have the means necessary to produce the kit in a time efficient manner, but it will require me taking my truck apart to spec all the pieces for fabrication. As you can imagine that is alot of work to find out that no one wants the kit.

I have put alot of time into designing an efficient drivable turbo kit for the Tundra, and I want to share that with the other enthusiast out there. If I produce this myself I can keep control of the cost and offer a better product to you all (as opposed to selling the idea to a big manufacturer). I have a pretty good idea of what the enthusiast wants and am prepared to offer it. Let me know what you all think and get me some numbers. If enough people are interested I will start production ASAP. Let me know guys.

Jason

[42GAMI]

id be interested. im curious about the $$$ it would cost. please post pics too.

whats cool about a turbo is your mpg doesnt suffer as bad as a supercharger, so long as you arent boosting.

btw: what are you using to supliment the fuel?

[PhillySequoia]

Me too providing reasonable price range. I am sure there are other members would be as well if thats the case.

[Hollywood03]

Well guys as you might imagine I am still in the process of seeing about becoming a dealer for the products that I use to cut cost, so giving an exact price right now is a little difficult. I can say that it could be as low as $5500 and upwards of $7000 for everything depending on if somone wants to get crazy with turbo type or some sort of special parts that I would normally not use. I plan to make this a very consumer friendly thing, meaning you get what you want!!

I am currently using Unichip for fuel managment, with a 9th injector and a 255lph pump.

Go to for pics of the final product:

http://www.theturbotalk.com/gallery/...lbum=29&pos=62
http://www.theturbotalk.com/gallery/...lbum=29&pos=57

[42GAMI]

dude! right on. that is really nice.

thanks for the pics.

have you dyno'd the thing? have you clocked it at the track?

is the unichip a piggy back to the factory ecu? im wondering what happens to the AFM and ECU once the intake tract reaches boost pressure.

how big is your supplimental/additional injector? what are you using to tune the air:fuel ratio?

could i use a GReddy/mitsubishi TD-06 20G turbo? (i dont know much about turbo matching but i already have a turbo)

sorry so many questions.

[gt5816v]

I'd recommend getting the MAF onto the inlet side of the turbo and increasing the housing diameter so it will read all of the airflow. Larger primary injectors would probably help too.

[Hollywood03]

GT5816V,

I appreciate your reply, but in the Toyota world you are very limited to the things that can be done with the Factory parts. The Toyota ECU is not very accepting of changes and putting the MAF on the inlet side of the turbo would work, but when dealing with flow and the thermodynamics of air, placing it in the traditional place on the inlet side, would not give you an accurate reading on the flow of air that actually enters the motor. Nevertheless that placing the MAF in a larger housing does not work as it would on say a MUSTANG no claibration available. The ECU, does not know what is going on and throws SES lights.

As for larger injectors, once again the MAF can not be scaled to adjust for this, which will give you a rich condition at idle, this is the reason that supplemental injectors are used for the top end of the power band. I know there are way around this but my goal here was to make this as much of a efficient bolt on as possible so that hundreds of dollars are not spent on the Dyno trying to make it run right...as it is all the R&D is done.

Jason

[Hollywood03]

Alright guys, big update. I sat down today and figured new prices on what I will be able to offer the Turbo Kits for. I called around to vendors and got new prices on products. Heres what you get:

Unichip, Blitz Electronic Boost Controller, Blitz Blow Off Valve, Wastegate, Headers, 9th Injector, 255lph pump, All Clamps, Bolts, Intercooler, K&N Filters, T04R Turbo
CAT, High Temp Ceramic Coating, Fittings/Hoses, and instructions on how to put it all together. With these options: $4595.

I can change it up to get turbos as big as you want, give me what power level you want to make and I can get you what you need. The system listed above was tested at 7psi of boost on my truck and made 400RWHP/500RWTQ. Compare this to what your getting with other kits out there, here there is nothing extra to buy, just order and bolt. Let me know what you guys think.

Jason

[nhparrot]

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[gt5816v]

Hi Jason,
The MAF will actually read better on the inlet side, just use a flow director to promote laminar flow and you’ll be set. You can size the MAF with the injectors for a rough mechanical calibration and use the Unichip to do the rest. You’ll be able to run the Unichip alone without a Turbo or Driver Module and delete the extra injector. The only downside is the MAF/IAT won’t provide the ECU with charge temps to retard the timing but again the Unichip can handle that. The Unichip can do open and closed loop fuel tuning. So fuel trims and SES lights won't give you trouble. You’re welcome to PM me if you have any questions about setting it up

Originally Posted by Hollywood03

GT5816V,

I appreciate your reply, but in the Toyota world you are very limited to the things that can be done with the Factory parts. The Toyota ECU is not very accepting of changes and putting the MAF on the inlet side of the turbo would work, but when dealing with flow and the thermodynamics of air, placing it in the traditional place on the inlet side, would not give you an accurate reading on the flow of air that actually enters the motor. Nevertheless that placing the MAF in a larger housing does not work as it would on say a MUSTANG no claibration available. The ECU, does not know what is going on and throws SES lights.

As for larger injectors, once again the MAF can not be scaled to adjust for this, which will give you a rich condition at idle, this is the reason that supplemental injectors are used for the top end of the power band. I know there are way around this but my goal here was to make this as much of a efficient bolt on as possible so that hundreds of dollars are not spent on the Dyno trying to make it run right...as it is all the R&D is done.

Jason

[Hollywood03]

Joshua,

Thanks for the reply again man. I think I misunderstood what you were hinting at in your first post. What you are saying makes perfect sense. I see how this maybe an area for improvement over the initial design, as soon as my Tundra is no longer my daily I may have to give this a try.

Have you seen the available set up for the extra injector though. I did alot of tuning back in the day with the GM LT1 and had some trouble with the way that the car ran with the larger injectors. If you havent tried using the 9th injector with the Unichip, I highly encourage it. The way that the tuning programs are set up, it gives you alot of diversity in the way that you can setup your fuel maps. I just feel like I have alot more control over what is happening. Plus the way the driver is built, you can run a series of high impedance injectors if that is what is needed for your application. Thanks for the input man.

Jason

[gt5816v]

I've seen one or two extra injector setups I haven't done any major tuning on GM stuff besides whipple charged Escalades... They were very receptive to larger injectors though. In any case I think it can be done on just about any vehicle if the tuning is right. I just did a 2zz turbo setup with 650cc injectors (that's about 2.5 times the size of stock) and a larger MAF housing....... The Unichip handles it just fine

Originally Posted by Hollywood03

Joshua,

Thanks for the reply again man. I think I misunderstood what you were hinting at in your first post. What you are saying makes perfect sense. I see how this maybe an area for improvement over the initial design, as soon as my Tundra is no longer my daily I may have to give this a try.

Have you seen the available set up for the extra injector though. I did alot of tuning back in the day with the GM LT1 and had some trouble with the way that the car ran with the larger injectors. If you havent tried using the 9th injector with the Unichip, I highly encourage it. The way that the tuning programs are set up, it gives you alot of diversity in the way that you can setup your fuel maps. I just feel like I have alot more control over what is happening. Plus the way the driver is built, you can run a series of high impedance injectors if that is what is needed for your application. Thanks for the input man.

Jason

[flsupraguy]

If you make the kit I will be very interested in buying it. Will this fit a 05/06 Tundra?

[slow camry]

im quite interested.