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Engine & DrivetrainDiscussions about the engine and drivetrain of your vehicle.
This is a discussion thread titled "Finally got around to flushing my trans with Amsoil synthetic", within the Engine & Drivetrain forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
Originally posted by mskaj Can you tell me where you purchased the magnifine filter?
You local auto parts stores often have these filters for about $24 and sometimes under the ATP label.
Another source is bulkparts.com @ $15 + $7.50 per pkg. shipping http://www.bulkparts.com/MM014.ASP?pageno=22 which is also a good source for LubeGard ATF & gear oil additives and transmission coolers.
Don't forget to put a 3/8" Magnefine filter on your power steering return line.
I've read through the thread, but I haven't seen any mention of the exact type of Amsoil and where it was purchased. It appears that you purchased a 5 gallon bucket of it. What is the exact description/part number? Can this be purchased at a parts store? I live in an aprtment so I can't really do this myself. I am having my tranny flushed at the dealer that is doing my latest brake TSB and I am thinking of bringing my own synthetic since I don't think they have anything other than over priced RedLine.
Originally posted by red's tundra I've read through the thread, but I haven't seen any mention of the exact type of Amsoil and where it was purchased. It appears that you purchased a 5 gallon bucket of it. What is the exact description/part number? Can this be purchased at a parts store? I live in an aprtment so I can't really do this myself. I am having my tranny flushed at the dealer that is doing my latest brake TSB and I am thinking of bringing my own synthetic since I don't think they have anything other than over priced RedLine.
I bought two 2 1/2 gallon containers of Amsoil series 2000 ATF. It's not cheap. But theoretically, if you put a filter on it you won't have to change it for 150,000 miles (but I still change it regularly). That's kind of what mercedes does on some transmissions.
Oh, you can sure do this yourself with little mess. If you do it the way that I said you won't make any mess at all. It's cleaner than changing engine oil. Just pour everything into sealable containers. If you flush the 5 full gallons (that's over a gallon more than you need though) you can put everything back in the original containers. (you'll need a temp storage container).
BUT to get away from "getting in trouble", I'd do this first thing on a Sunday morning when everyone is snoozing. Start at the crack of dawn and you'll be done in less than an hour. Most people won't even be out the door until 9 or 10. It's kind of amazing the things you can get away with when you get up while everyone is still sleeping. The only thing that people can tell what you're doing it when you are draining the pan.
In an hour you'll be done. The bigger thing is the pan drain, after that it's no big deal at all. Just poke that drain line into a large container (I used 2 1/2 gallon jugs but I only needed a little of the second container) seal the top and drop it all off at your recycling center (probably a jug at a time - they usually don't like to see too much at once). Make sure there is nothing foreign in those containers to taint the oil though.
You can get AMSOIL at a local distributor (parts store or an actual individual) or you can order it online www.amsoil.com and they'll ship it.
Thanks for the info. Only problem....my girlfriend and I are the managers of the complex. I don't care, but my girlfriend is a real stickler about the whole working on your car in the parking lot thing. So...that means I not only would have to get up before everyone else, but I'd also have to get out of BED without her knowing . Maybe I can sway her by spending the money I would save dong it myself on her . Nah.... I could possibly do this at my parents house I guess.
Couple points, RAGERXS who posts here is an AMSOIL dealer and permited to sell to us on the site. He will have as good a price if not better than anyone on Amsoil. 5-6- a qt is what I remember but maybe less in the 2.5 gal bottles.
Pay a shop that has the right equipment to do it. It cost me $50.00 for a shop to make the change with me supplying the fluid. They take the hoses off the cooler and clean goes in one and dirty comes out the other. There was a big discussion about this in some past threads, i.e. does it really get only clean fluid in. That is way too analy compulsive for me. don't sweat it.
Lastly, keeping the sig other happy is worth $50.00.
Originally posted by Trouthead Couple points, RAGERXS who posts here is an AMSOIL dealer and permited to sell to us on the site. He will have as good a price if not better than anyone on Amsoil. 5-6- a qt is what I remember but maybe less in the 2.5 gal bottles.
Pay a shop that has the right equipment to do it. It cost me $50.00 for a shop to make the change with me supplying the fluid. They take the hoses off the cooler and clean goes in one and dirty comes out the other. There was a big discussion about this in some past threads, i.e. does it really get only clean fluid in. That is way too analy compulsive for me. don't sweat it.
Lastly, keeping the sig other happy is worth $50.00.
I hoped they drained the pan fluid before they started all that. Otherwise, no, they didn't get all the old fluid out.
But mostly you can see the old dirty fluid coming out and when it's clean again I'd go a little farther (couple quarts) and then stop. But it would help to drain the pan first.
I'd already done 3-4 pan changes over the course of a year. So I must have been at 60% synthetic, but still some dirty syn/dino oil in the pan. Since then I have changed the approx 4 gts in the pan once, and added a filter. All in all that is pretty anal. I can't go the next step and worry about some fairly clean, yet still dirty oil in the pan. BUT
Your advice to someone about to do it is well taken. Pull the plug and drain the dirty pan, put the plug back in and fill it with four qts, then hook up the machine. Two 2.5 jugs of Amsoil (20 qts) should do all of the above.
Originally posted by Trouthead I'd already done 3-4 pan changes over the course of a year. So I must have been at 60% synthetic, but still some dirty syn/dino oil in the pan. Since then I have changed the approx 4 gts in the pan once, and added a filter. All in all that is pretty anal. I can't go the next step and worry about some fairly clean, yet still dirty oil in the pan. BUT
Your advice to someone about to do it is well taken. Pull the plug and drain the dirty pan, put the plug back in and fill it with four qts, then hook up the machine. Two 2.5 jugs of Amsoil (20 qts) should do all of the above.
Yeah, it's way overkill considering that a) there is a cooler on the line so the condition of oil is a lot better than it might be otherwise and b) you only have to change 4 quarts in the pan every 30,000 miles to make Toyota happy.
(then again, they aren't the ones that is going to have to pay for the trans rebuild).
5 gallons of Amsoil (or anything else) is way more than enough. You'll have over a gallon left over unless you want to flush out the little dirty fluid that is going to go back into the pan from the return line to the trans from the cooler. But that's pretty negligable. I guess you could figure out what percentage it is by looking at the volume of the return line.
Hmmmmm. I didn't think of it until just now, but it might be the best way to get *all* the fluid out is to pop the cooler line *before* you pull the pan drain plug. That way the fluid in the cooler lines would have a chance to drain or partially drain back to the trans. But that might only amount to a cup or two of fluid.
I assume this is a rather important step to complete if you really want to get MOST of the fluid out. It's what I was going to do - then post the results. Like others have said, once MOST of the old fluid is replaced with synth, that's all you need.
BTW, for waste oil, I use a plastic 5 gal. Jerry can. Blitz Automotive Products My local service station doesn't seem to mind me bringing it in, I generally tip the attendant a few bucks if they dump it for me.
CJ
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Originally posted by akauth [SNIP]
Hmmmmm. I didn't think of it until just now, but it might be the best way to get *all* the fluid out is to pop the cooler line *before* you pull the pan drain plug. That way the fluid in the cooler lines would have a chance to drain or partially drain back to the trans. But that might only amount to a cup or two of fluid.
about the whole working on your car in the parking lot thing. So...that means I not only would have to get up before everyone else, but I'd also have to get out of BED without her knowing 
. Maybe I can sway her by spending the money I would save dong it myself on her 
. Nah.... I could possibly do this at my parents house I guess.
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