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I have the apparently common leaky exhaust manifolds on my '01 Tundra, I have searched and read all the threads I could find on them and I have decided to go with the JBA's. It looks like the TS store has a good price on them, but there are two different headers with a $5 price difference that both say they will work on my '01 Tundra...

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/store...oduct_list&c=9

So which is it, or does it matter? What is the difference?
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I have the apparently common leaky exhaust manifolds on my '01 Tundra, I have searched and read all the threads I could find on them and I have decided to go with the JBA's. It looks like the TS store has a good price on them, but there are two different headers with a $5 price difference that both say they will work on my '01 Tundra...

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/store...oduct_list&c=9

So which is it, or does it matter? What is the difference?
The 5 bucks extra is for the coating - it's a no brainer to get the coated ones, since the flanges on these headers are mild steel. Only the piping is 409 stainless steel. Not to sure how well the coating holds up, but it eventually will deteriorate over time.

You could also get the SS autochrome headers from ebay. These cost far less and are made entirely from 304 stainless steel which never will rust. The JBAs aren't worth the money if you ask me.
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At the risk of sounding like an ungrateful noob...are you sure about that? I don't see any notation of a coating in the descriptions, and I thought the coating was usually a couple hundred more, not $5 more.

Also, I thought the general consensus was that the SS Autochromes were not as good as the JBA's.

Also, I know that the title of one only says "sequoia" and one says tundra and sequoia, but bother say they will fit the 4.7L Tundra when you open them up.
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Also, I just noticed that the part number is the same?
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At the risk of sounding like an ungrateful noob...are you sure about that? I don't see any notation of a coating in the descriptions, and I thought the coating was usually a couple hundred more, not $5 more.

Also, I thought the general consensus was that the SS Autochromes were not as good as the JBA's.

Also, I know that the title of one only says "sequoia" and one says tundra and sequoia, but bother say they will fit the 4.7L Tundra when you open them up.
My Bad - For some reason they listed the exact same part number with a 5 dollar difference. Part number 2010S will fit both sequoia and tundras up to 2004. You are correct about the cost of the coating. Jba does claim to have a lifetime warranty on the coating but you'll still have to pull them back out and send them in if there's a problem. By the time you get them installed, you are likely to have nicked or scraped the coating anyway, not to mention you might have to grind away some material in a few spots to even get them to fit well.

For less than half the money you can get the SS autochromes. They are made from a better grade stainless and therefore don't need a coating to protect them. The only benefit to the coating is a slight reduction in the amount of heat they throw off. I've looked at both headers and think there's not much of a difference in quality. In fact, the SS autochrome headers are tig welded - much more time consuming than the sloppy mig welds on the Jbas. At least you have a choice of headers, something we 05+ tundra owners don't have due to the air injection piping. For us it's the Jbas or nothing, which is why I'm building my own from scratch.
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Default Re: JBA Headers or...JBA Headers?

I can't comment on the quality of the SS autochromes; do your homework. There are many, many, members on here with the JBAs, myself included. Whichever type you get, they're going to be a royal pain in the A..... to install, how many times would you like to do the job? I say you get what you pay for. If you get the JBA's go to your Toyota dealer and buy OEM gaskets and replacement locknuts.
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Default Re: JBA Headers or...JBA Headers?

hello flowtech has a smog legal shorty headers part#91730FLT has anybody used thuis or compared with likes of jba and trd or borla probably a huge difference in price
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My buddy had the SS Autochrome headers. They leaked so bad he bought OEM and re-installed those.
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I have my JBA's on for about a month. If Toyota made a decent replacement manifold that wouldn't crack after 20K, I would of bought that. I just don't like the sound the JBA's make. As far as a performance difference I don't feel it.

No leaks, used Toyota gaskets.
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I just installed SS Autochromes, All I can say is the quality was fine --but a rea pain in the *** to install. I looked at jba at 4wheel parts and the looked crappy --especially the welds--they were on the inside of the tubes instead of the outside (autochrome)
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While I appreciate all the advice, I wasn't really looking for it, haha. I was hoping someone could tell me why the headers are listed twice in the store, with different prices, but the same part number.
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While I appreciate all the advice, I wasn't really looking for it, haha. I was hoping someone could tell me why the headers are listed twice in the store, with different prices, but the same part number.
The "self volunteered" advice came from my displeasure of sloppy manufactured JBA headers. I take every opportunity to tell everyone I can.

I do hope you get a set that are welded ok if you end up ordering them.
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I've searched the board but can't find out why the TRD division doesn't make headers for the 06's . Any clues ?

I have a DW with the TRD exhaust....
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I've searched the board but can't find out why the TRD division doesn't make headers for the 06's . Any clues ?

I have a DW with the TRD exhaust....
Toyota is leaving us 05-06 tundra people in the dark regarding add on parts. Don't hold your breath for anything from TRD any time soon!

JBA is your only option - that's why I'm working on building my own headers. If it's not too much of a hassle to replicate these, I might start making these for other people.
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Would the gains experienced by putting these on the 4.0L V6 in the '06 Tundra (if they actually fit, I'm unsure) be worth the money?
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