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Depends on what you want to do with it. The FJ is better for extreme off road conditions- if that is your hobby. If you need better towing capacity and a pick up bed for hauling, then a Tacoma. If you are going to put a cap on a pick up bed for hauling luggage and not much else, then you might as well get a FJ.
I think toyota lost there mind with the new Tacoma. To big for 4 wheeling. They need a smaller truck again. Good to see the FJ is based on smaller body.
I think toyota lost there mind with the new Tacoma. To big for 4 wheeling. They need a smaller truck again. Good to see the FJ is based on smaller body.
Whah? The FJ is totally bigger too, even bulkier than the Taco. I see it as a cool novelty but not some special vehicle Toyota built for hard core off roading. I mean its got IFS just like the Taco and if that thing is offroad capable so is a lifted 4 wheel drive Rav4 to some degree, minus the locker. I think most people that are daily driving mostly on road wouldnt buy someting like a Rubicon, but i think a lot of moms would buy an FJ, of course moms buy hummers too. I still agree that with all the different models of suvs and trucks toyota has they could have made at least one solid axle vehicle. I like FJs plenty but i see the Taco as a better platform for an offroad vehicle, maybe the only down side would be angles...just my random 2 cents
Just my experience in 4 wheeling. It is wheel base, the reason toyota used smaller than 4 runner frame. Reason jeeps are so good. The new taco wheel length from front to rear is crazy. It bottoms out so much it is unreal. FJ is ten times better off road than the h2 and h3. But about even with the jeeps, with a better engine IMO.
Ditched my Taco for an FJ....the Taco was just way too big to off-road with. Plus, there wasn't any place to put my stuff except in the truck bed...couldn't leave the truck unattended on trips for long periods of time. And I certainly wasn't going to de-truck it with a shell. Haven't taken the FJ off road yet...just got it this weekend....but so far, I'm a believer! Plus, living in helLA, it's easier to park and it's fun to laugh at all the H3 drivers gawking at my lower priced, more capable, more gas efficient vehicle. I'm a yuppie but I don't have to look like one!
Better frame on the FJ, shorter overhangs too, and a lot smaller. I own both and our FJ is miles shorter then the Taco but it's just as wide. Both are good vehicles and both can handle the off-road fairly well. The Taco is probably better at big hill climbs, but the FJ is much easier to move around in on tight trails. I must conceed though that neither hold a candle to a Jeep Rubicon out on the trail. My friend has one and can go places I can only dream of. The Rubi is a pure, purpose built off-road machine, nothing else on the market comes close. The Yota's both the Taco and FJ appeal to a larger market though and are more civil and useful for everyday driving which is why we bought them. If I wanted the best pure off-road machine though, it would be a Rubi, hands down.
As for the Taco/FJ choice,... it's tough. If you would use a bed then clearly get the Tacoma,a bed is great for when you need to haul stuff like furniture, home building/reno/garden products, diving gear, bikes etc... but if you wouldn't use it all that much (be honest with yourself here, my neighbour never uses the bed of his Dakota) then I'd go with the FJ. It's better for getting the groceries and daily stuff like that, and is easier to drive around the city in. There's also a lot more dry cargo room in the FJ. It's a tough choice for sure.
toyota is making everything bigger..the 95-04 tacomas were perfect..short enough wheel base..narrow enough on tight trails..strong engine..decent mpg..factory locker..
i do agree the FJ should have an hpd44 under it rather than that IFS crap..the FJ would put the rubicon to shame with a SFA
FJ is ten times better off road than the h2 and h3. But about even with the jeeps, with a better engine IMO.
I'd be interested in hearing why you think the FJ is "ten times better" than an H3 off-road. The H3 has a turning diameter of 37 feet, vs. 41.8 for the FJ. The H3 has an approach angle of 39.4 degrees vs. 34 for the FJ. The H3 has a departure angle of 36.5 degrees vs. 30 degrees for the FJ. The H3 has a crawl ratio of of 68.9 vs. only 41.8 for the FJ (wish Toyota would put in a 4:1 transfer case in like the Jeep and Hummer). The H3 has bigger tires, and more underbody protection, too.
Might want to check the underbody protection thing again. Mostly weigh vs horse power.
For 6000$ less you get 9.6 vs h3 9.1 ground cleareance,
Bigger driver inside
4295lbs vs overweigh 4700lbs h3
better gas from ten times better engine than any gm v-6 they make, and h3 only has inline 5 option.
more cargo space from smller vehicle.
17 inch wheels vs 16inch.
way more torque and 500lbs better towing.
And hey who are you fooling read some reviews the h3 is for trails and camping, but mostly looks. If you really want to off road and not have to take the vehicle into the shop tens times and have resale value buy toyota. Don't mean to sound like a sales man because I love camaro's but the biggest reason I bought my 4runner was for resale, and the engine. Gm is way behind the times in the engine depatment. H3 needs the crawl ration because of the weak engine.
Might want to check the underbody protection thing again. Mostly weigh vs horse power.
For 6000$ less you get 9.6 vs h3 9.1 ground cleareance,
Bigger driver inside
4295lbs vs overweigh 4700lbs h3
better gas from ten times better engine than any gm v-6 they make, and h3 only has inline 5 option.
more cargo space from smller vehicle.
17 inch wheels vs 16inch.
way more torque and 500lbs better towing.
And hey who are you fooling read some reviews the h3 is for trails and camping, but mostly looks. If you really want to off road and not have to take the vehicle into the shop tens times and have resale value buy toyota. Don't mean to sound like a sales man because I love camaro's but the biggest reason I bought my 4runner was for resale, and the engine. Gm is way behind the times in the engine depatment. H3 needs the crawl ration because of the weak engine.
Are we talking about the FJ or your 4runner?
Have you seen the Underbody Protection Package on the H3? It practically cages the entire underbody of the vehicle, and has 2" rock rails on each side.
The H3 comes with more standard equipment than the FJ, so your price comparison is misleading.
The H3 Adventure has 33" tires, while the FJ only has 32's. The 16" wheels are not a factor off-road, it's tire diameter and sidewall height.
The H3 gets 16/20. The FJ get 16/19. It doesn't sound like it is better on gas, and the H3 does this on Regular gas!
So, according to you they doubled the overall crawl ratio, because it has 10% less torque at an idle. Yeah, right. I don't know what kind of rock crawling you're doing, but mine is not done at full throttle.
And would you like to tell us what part of the H3 engine is so far behind the times? Let's see. 4 valves per cyclinder, double overhead cams, electronic throttle. GM get 62.8 hp/liter, while Toyota only gets 59.8 hp/liter. GM does this with one less cylinder, and on Regular gas vs. Toyota's Premium gas!!! GM gets more mileage out with their engine in a vehicle that weighs 400 pounds more. No, GM doesn't know what they are doing. I only wish they had put a V8 in the H3.
I read the reviews of the H3. Everyone concluded that it is a fantastic offroad vehicle (not as great an on-road vehicle). I don't what reviews you're reading. I guess it's the same ones that think the FJ is as good as a Jeep Rubicon offroad, the Rubicon with the straight Dana 44 lockers on both ends. We won't even get into the '07 model with the electronically disengageable front sway bar.
I think the FJ is a better overall package for what I want to do, but I'm not going to kid myself that it is better than the H3 or Rubicon offroad.
Wow guess I touch a never here. I'm not saying it is not a good vehicle. Just not for me. I love the engine in my 4runner which is the same in the FJ and both vehicles are less than the h3. My reviews are from edmonds and motortrend and motorweek tv. I feel the h3 are over priced. I like my camaro, but will be the first to tell you the toyota is what I drive everyday. Just a reliablity think for me. I have owned 2 gm's and 2 toyota's. 1 gm motor last 104,000's and blew head gasket, which gm wouldn't replace via recall because the vehicle was over 100,000miles. The 350 lt1 in the camaro is a great motor, but has tons of known problems, just look on the highway safety web site. I have 124,000 hard miles on it, but has had much work. I have had 24,000 trouble free miles on the toyota and over 180,000 on another toyota. My wife's 1999 kia has had less problems than my GM's. I just feel they are over priced, and not the only one the feels this way. Just look at the rebates. And all smaller engines 4cycl, inlines have more horsepower per liter than bigger engines with one exception the new corvette engine. I like the concept of the 5 cyclinder inline, but not for 6000$ more.
I stand by what I originally stated, for the price I would take the FJ and take the 6000$ put it into what I wanted. And your right the h3 has a few things you can't get on the Fj like leather seats. Hey you can have that, I will take the rubber floor mats, if I wanted leather in a off road vehicle I would by a 4runner for less money. The h3 cost more than my 4runner, and my 4runner has more options and is a better vehicle.
Toyota is the hands-down winner in this department, with more cylinders, more power, more gears and better mileage.
Even with just one or two people in it, the Hummer's five-cylinder engine feels anemic and grossly underpowered
The FJ and the H3 both get standard antilock brakes and traction control, and the FJ adds standard stability control (it's an extra-cost option on the H3).
Toyota and Hummer, however, make buyers pay extra for side curtain air bag protection, which will not sit well with parents. The FJ package includes side bags in the front seats. They're not available on the H3.
Ride & Handling
Both of these mid-size offroaders are truck-based, which means they sit on a full frame.
Unlike the H3, the FJ is available in a base 4x2 model; the Hummer comes only as a 4x4. The FJ rides on standard 17-inch wheels and tires, the H3 on 16s.
Ride quality is surprisingly tame on both models, at least on smooth roads, with the Toyota's larger tires giving it a slight edge in comfort. The Hummer starts to lose its poise when the pavement starts to get a bit dicey, bouncing its occupants around like rag dolls on the really rough stuff. The FJ stays cool on all but rutted, choppy surfaces. Both vehicles exhibit prodigious offroad capability.
On the highway, the FJ displays a bit more control, thanks in part to its speed-sensitive, variable-assist power rack-and-pinion steering. The H3 has a larger turning circle and is more of a chore to park, although the FJ's visibility problems, as mentioned, make backing up an even bigger issue.
Winner: FJ Cruiser
Toyota FJ Cruiser beat the Hummer H3 in the key areas of value, horsepower, fuel economy and safety. If the Toyota's looks, inside and out, speak to you more than its American counterpart, then there's virtually no contest.
i love listening to you two fighting. i have no idea what your talking about with all the technical stuff, but i have the new fj and my sister has an H3. all i know is that when i got to the grocery store there are about 30 h3's and h2's in the parking lot. and i've only seen 2 other fj's on the road total. so if you wanna be an unoriginal bastard go ahead and purchase a "HUMMER" if you can still call it that...i just can't wait to see the when gm totally sells out and makes the h4....gay gay gay gay gay.......
i love listening to you two fighting. i have no idea what your talking about with all the technical stuff, but i have the new fj and my sister has an H3. all i know is that when i got to the grocery store there are about 30 h3's and h2's in the parking lot. and i've only seen 2 other fj's on the road total. so if you wanna be an unoriginal bastard go ahead and purchase a "HUMMER" if you can still call it that...i just can't wait to see the when gm totally sells out and makes the h4....gay gay gay gay gay.......
That's OK. I don't know what you're talking about either.
tacoma VS fj cruiser
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