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Old 05-29-2006, 04:58 PM
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Angry FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

I was having a nice Saturday drive and passed an oncoming car. This little rock just bounced up the hood and "ticked" the windsheild. I thought at least it was not really able to be seen - just left of center and at the very bottom. At that moment, a crack shot straight up 3 inches and over to the left 3 inches.

A new Toyoata windshield special ordered is 520CDN not including installation and aftermarkets have not caught up on the fj model yet. I went to a 3rd party windsheild repair outfit to see if the crack can be stopped and they provided a suggestion to place a 1" black graphics tape around the perimeter of the windsheild to prevent these types of rock cracks.

I guess it the worst possible place for a rock to hit. Too late for me. I have to be the first one out there - DAMN! I didn't need this distinction.
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Old 05-30-2006, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

Sorry the hear about the windshield. I can see where the vertical windshield of the FJ may be more prone to rock damage.

Let us know how the repair goes.

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Smile Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

Your dealer won't replace your windshield? On my brand new Tundra, a month after I bought it, my windshield was pitted, and right in MY field of vision. Well, I took it to the dealer and showed him. He said Toyota doesn't normally replace them under waranntee, but he did it for me any how, gratis.
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Old 06-04-2006, 09:35 AM
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The Dealer was less than gracious to even suggest they can replace on their dollar. I have been quite unhappy with the after service of the Dealer I had chosen.

I have use a thrid party repair place to stop the crack so far and the repair made it look better. As for replacing, I fear for the rubber seals and wonder if I should just order them with the windshield. The dealer cannot reccommend what to do. Idiots.
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

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Sorry the hear about the windshield. I can see where the vertical windshield of the FJ may be more prone to rock damage.
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It may be inferior glas thickness on the FJ, because I never heard many glass issues with the Jeep Wrangler which also has a straight windshield.
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Angry Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

I bought mine on Sunday night, windshield was cracked by Tuesday morning. Dealer in Van Nuys, CA basically told me tough luck after charging me $3,000 over sticker for the vehicle. I can't believe this. I have read a TON of complaints online about the windshield cracking, this should not be happening on this scale, especially considering the microscopic size of the rocks in most instances.

Sounds almost like a class-action lawsuit in the works against Toyota if this doesn't get fixed soon. I can't afford a new windshield every week for the next few years, and I let the dealership know this. If anyone else has had their windshield cracked, let's pull our resources together and see what we can do here.
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I bought mine on Sunday night, windshield was cracked by Tuesday morning. Dealer in Van Nuys, CA basically told me tough luck after charging me $3,000 over sticker for the vehicle. I can't believe this. I have read a TON of complaints online about the windshield cracking, this should not be happening on this scale, especially considering the microscopic size of the rocks in most instances.

Sounds almost like a class-action lawsuit in the works against Toyota if this doesn't get fixed soon. I can't afford a new windshield every week for the next few years, and I let the dealership know this. If anyone else has had their windshield cracked, let's pull our resources together and see what we can do here.
I'm with you on this. What can we do, and lets do something soon.
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Old 07-08-2006, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

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I bought mine on Sunday night, windshield was cracked by Tuesday morning. Dealer in Van Nuys, CA basically told me tough luck after charging me $3,000 over sticker for the vehicle. I can't believe this. I have read a TON of complaints online about the windshield cracking, this should not be happening on this scale, especially considering the microscopic size of the rocks in most instances.

Sounds almost like a class-action lawsuit in the works against Toyota if this doesn't get fixed soon. I can't afford a new windshield every week for the next few years, and I let the dealership know this. If anyone else has had their windshield cracked, let's pull our resources together and see what we can do here.
I have been looking to buy an FJ as a 2nd vehicle, and I am shocked that dealers are still charging $3,000 over invoice for these things. I live in Southern Ohio, and there are 2 dealerships 20 miles apart that have offered me FJ's for $500 over invoice. It would be thousands less for those of you on the west coast to buy the FJ in my region, and have it shipped. I don't know how dealers can sleep at night knowing they are screwing people this way. Charging for $ over sticker should be illegal.

I will keep my eye open and monitor this windshield problem.
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

well what you can do is have your insurance fix the crack FOR FREE. I've had my fj about 3 months and the windshield was cracked already, but my car ins. filled it for free. do you not have coverage for that...

also there was no deductible.

p.s. i used to have a wrangler too, which also cracked a few times. i think a lot of it is just luck, or the city you live in. since i've moved to phoenix from cleveland i've replaced 2 window. and on of the cars was a camaro,,,i can't think of a more sloped windshield.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

Geico would've patched it for free had it not been nearly a foot long 10 minutes after the gnat-sized pebble hit. The other problem is that it hit right on the bottom edge of the windshield, hence it can't be patched anyway.

Time to change my deductable to ZERO - I KNOW this thing is going to break 5 or 10 more times.
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

My Fj had a brick go throught the radiator while I was driving on the freeway.
No fault of my own, I had just purchased it fourty minutes earlier.
I had it towed to the dealer and the nerve of those idiots.... They wouldnt do anything for me.
I cant believe that a business would sell me something and not stand behind it

On my Honda I had a Cow fall out of the sky and flatten my hood and they just came out to the scene and gave me a brand new acura and a thousand dollars cash for my trouble..Now thats customer service! The guy that delivered the acura even had to walk back to the stealership and it was uphill the whole way.
I traded that acura in for this fj and the salesman told me it was only worth $100,000 geez I am sure I could have sold it for $102,000.

Morale of the story is that $chit happens and it isnt your fault...it is also not the delaerships fault.
I have never posted a smart alek response on this forum. but this blame John crap has gotten out of hand.
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

It's one thing to pull out of the dealership right in front of an oncoming bus and take a t-bone to the side and ask for Joe Dealership to serve you up a free one on them.

It's an entirely different thing having a pebble the size of a gnat turd tick a windshield resulting in the structural collapse of the glass as if it were hit with a sledgehammer.

The company (Toyota), and those selling their products (i.e. the dealership) need to stand behind their products. Accidents happen, but when something this new has this many people encountering the same exact problem on this large of a scale, it screams of an engineering design flaw and a serious lack of QA testing.

If the tires blew out everytime we hit a bump, would you be making the same sarcastic statement?
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

Amen to that!

I've had my FJ for just about a month, haven't even made my first payment, and I already have TWO chips in the windshield! I don't drive in any areas particularly prone to stone, pebbles, etc., and in fact my previous car (Mercury Mountaineer) only had about 2 chips over the 7 years I used it driving the same roads.

Boo to the Toyota auto glass supplier!
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

I didn't read all the responses yet so forgive me if I repeat someone else's response.

If your windshield ever starts to crack you have at least two options to keep the crack from propagating. You can call a windshield repair (not replacement) service to come out and repair the crack. They will drill the ends of the crack out and fill the holes with a UV epoxy. The repair is pretty good and sometimes you can barely make out the location where it was repaired.

Another thing you can do (I had to do it once myself) is drill the ends of the cracks yourself. I had a crack that was taking off once and it was going to be over the weekend before I could get a repair guy out to work on it. I didn't want the crack to get bigger (because once the crack gets too big they can't fix it) so I purchased a very small glass drill and drilled the cracks myself. The key is to only drill through the first layer of glass. Do not drill all the way through. The glass is a sandwich of two layers of glass and a flexible material between them. Penetrate the first layer of glass until you reach the middle layer. Fill the holes with a low viscosity two-part (clear) epoxy with a syringe and let it cure. Use a razor blade to cut the excess epoxy flush with the windshield. The drill should be no bigger then .050".
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: FJ WINDSHIELDS and ROCKS don't mix

Well, I have been in the xB scene for a while now, and they have the same problem. After some of our members did some extensive research on this issue, they found that it is not that the glass is weaker or thinner as we all thought. It is simply the slope of the windshield. I have owned 7 jeeps, and replaced windshields on every single one of them (some multiple times). Instead of a rock deflecting, the windshield takes the whole impact.
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