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well i traded in my s/c 4runner for my tundra and 2 days after id did the s/c and engine both went out. not doing that again
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Ok, long as you don't get mad when you have to pick up a 1,000 pounds of fertilizer at Home Depot with your "proper performance car".



I don't know man, a lot of us are anxiously awaiting the TRD blower....you haven't converted anyone against it. Keep trying though, it keeps the thread alive.
Why would I try to pick up 1,000 pounds of fertilizer with a sports car? That is what a truck is for. Driving in a spirited manner is what sports cars are for.

I don't have anything against modding a truck, I just don't see any point in trying to take a truck and turn it into a sports car.
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OH Snap! someone forgot to tell Toyota that, b/c they have this truck that pulls like 0.9g on the skidpad. A "proper sports car" like the 350Z does it like in 0.86g (Motortrend.com)

That's it I'm convinced, I'm going to email Toyota and tell them to stop that sh!t. Trucks are for hauling dirt, hay and horsefeed.. NOT to be driven around corners fast. Shame on them.

we should have a new law for all truck drivers in the U.S: NO street racing, NO fast corner-taking, NO burn-outs, NO Speeding, and NO grinning while you drive your truck. furthermore.. Anyone who owns a truck must do one weekend of mandatory farm-work or construction-work. Trucks are for work, NOT racing around with a stupid grin on your face.
The X-Runner despite it's good grip is not fast, not to mention it isn't a terribly useful truck like the Tundra.

Again if you don't have all that much work to do with a truck (need for a truck), and you like to drive in a sporting manner why not get an older truck and a nice new sports car or sport sedan?

BTW Road and Track got .89g out of a 350Z, just showing that different days and different drivers can get different results.
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OH Snap! someone forgot to tell Toyota that, b/c they have this truck that pulls like 0.9g on the skidpad. A "proper sports car" like the 350Z does it like in 0.86g (Motortrend.com)

That's it I'm convinced, I'm going to email Toyota and tell them to stop that sh!t. Trucks are for hauling dirt, hay and horsefeed.. NOT to be driven around corners fast. Shame on them.

we should have a new law for all truck drivers in the U.S: NO street racing, NO fast corner-taking, NO burn-outs, NO Speeding, and NO grinning while you drive your truck. furthermore.. Anyone who owns a truck must do one weekend of mandatory farm-work or construction-work. Trucks are for work, NOT racing around with a stupid grin on your face.
LMAO. That's great. People can do whatever they want with their ride, it's their's, and luckily we live in a democratic society.

The vehicle that won the open class of a race we have where I live during the last time I went and watched (a few years ago) was a 1200hp Chevy 1/2 ton truck (heavily modified of course). It average, AVERAGED, 212 mph on the 75 miles of highway that the race is run on (Homepage Main Menu: Flat Out On A Public Highway! (home.htm)). It beat all sorts of Ferraris, Lambos, Lotuses, you name it. And the modified truck costs tons less $$$ then the fancy sports cars.

As far as racing goes, it's more about the drivetrain then the body shape. To each their own!
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A truck, on a 'normal' budget cannot be turned into a sports car (or can it, never did see the 'Transformers' movie
But, it can be made a great hobby/fun thing other than a haulage vehicle.
A truck is usually heavier with a higher center of gravity than a car, but it can also put down as much if not more power.
Some here wanna drag race, some just wanna have WOT fun, some just obviously love their trucks.
I don't think anyone is trying to morph their Tundra into a sports car, but I reckon some WILL outrun a sports car with right conditions.
It seem's you have been trying to make the point that a. truck should only be used as work vehicles b.a diesel is a better bet to mod/supercharge c.toyota's are not good for supercharging etc.
Well, good for you. But if YOU do not own a Tundra or if you do Do NOT wish to supercharge it, why do you keep posting here????????
YOU DO NOT KNOW wether THIS truck can accept a supercharger effectively! thats a fact cos they aint out yet. So just cos an older model had problems then therefore this one will to? Thats your opinion, great but it aint fact.
Thing is, ya got your opinions and others have theirs and thank god for free speech, but WHY do you keep banging on about this like a guy with one of the 'the end of the world is nigh' signs? Iffin ya don't like the idea/trust the idea/want the idea then SSSHHHHH
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A truck, on a 'normal' budget cannot be turned into a sports car (or can it, never did see the 'Transformers' movie
But, it can be made a great hobby/fun thing other than a haulage vehicle.
A truck is usually heavier with a higher center of gravity than a car, but it can also put down as much if not more power.
Some here wanna drag race, some just wanna have WOT fun, some just obviously love their trucks.
I don't think anyone is trying to morph their Tundra into a sports car, but I reckon some WILL outrun a sports car with right conditions.
It seem's you have been trying to make the point that a. truck should only be used as work vehicles b.a diesel is a better bet to mod/supercharge c.toyota's are not good for supercharging etc.
Well, good for you. But if YOU do not own a Tundra or if you do Do NOT wish to supercharge it, why do you keep posting here????????
YOU DO NOT KNOW wether THIS truck can accept a supercharger effectively! thats a fact cos they aint out yet. So just cos an older model had problems then therefore this one will to? Thats your opinion, great but it aint fact.
Thing is, ya got your opinions and others have theirs and thank god for free speech, but WHY do you keep banging on about this like a guy with one of the 'the end of the world is nigh' signs? Iffin ya don't like the idea/trust the idea/want the idea then SSSHHHHH

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It seem's you have been trying to make the point that a. truck should only be used as work vehicles b.a diesel is a better bet to mod/supercharge c.toyota's are not good for supercharging etc.
Let me clarify:

a.) Trucks can be used for many things, the primary design reason for them is work. If it is a nice daily driver and it performs well while maintaining the ability to work hard, that is awesome. However, modifications that reduce the ability to perform the primary function of the vehicle just make me shake my head. Maybe the supercharger won't compromise anything at all, but without other supporting mods I just don't see it.

b.) A diesel is a better bet to modify for higher power output, and your dollar will go a lot further in power gains with one. They also typically have the advantage of having most of the upgrades needed to deal with boost and transmissions that can handle higher torque output. Most of this argument was due to another member speculating that with a supercharger the 5.7L would be in diesel torque territory (which it could be), I was merely pointing out that this may not be a great thing if the rest of the drive line and cooling system aren't up to the task.

c.) I will flatly state that in my experience no naturally aspirated high compression gasoline engine is very suitable for supercharging/turbocharging. Now one with a bottom end made to handle forced induction is a different story, if Toyota were to offer a supercharged 5.7L Tundra from the factory with an bottom end made for forced induction I have no doubt it would be bad to the bone (although it would suck down gas like crazy).
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Oh I just noticed the guy drives a Scion. Nevermind, that explains everything. It's all crystal clear now.
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A Lightning was NOT made for hauling, neither was a Harley or a Cyclone! And although not my cup of tea, do you think that Lincoln truck is used by landscapers? And what about that Chevy SSR. NO the vehicle manufacturers have woken up and smelt the gasoline, paid attention to whats going on and SEMA etc. and decided THEY want a piece of that particular pie and give less to the aftermarket boys. The future is gonna get even more blurred with the gap between what is custom and OEM mark my words!

I hate diesels (as I am not in haulage biz) they are costly to work on, stink and Diesel is costly.

I have seen several Nissan Skylines (stock putting out about 220bhp) putting down WAY over 450bhp with Nismo parts.Also ford (UK) had a thing called a sierra. They then brought one out with a Garret Turbo that fried the comp. It can and has been done! I still say Toyota are on crack if they put out an aftermarket SC that will fry their new class beating truck.
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Yet another new member here. I don not own a Tundra yet, but I have come to the conclusion that a truck (as much as I hate driving them) is in my near future. Oh well, that is what happens when you relocate from Springfield, MO to rural South Dakota and like to be out doors.



I am here to do some research, and hopefully have some good conversations.
Some buy a truck as a tool
Some buy a truck as a toy
Some want to try to mix a little of both

You don't even really want a truck, how could you possibly comprehend wanting to mod one?
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Oh I just noticed the guy drives a Scion. Nevermind, that explains everything. It's all crystal clear now.
The wife drives a Scion. Good little car for her, what is wrong with Scion owners? (other than the fascination with neon lights, goofy wheels, and fart cans)

If we were to classify what I drive based on what I spend the most time on I guess I drive an EMD SD70MAC or a GE ES44AC. Diesel powered, V16 or V12 4,000 to 4,400 hp, and starting tractive effort of about 180,000ft-lbs. If you want to talk about overbuilt motive systems a locomotive is a great example.

I drive a Subaru with a turbocharged 2.5L H4 to work, but have decided I need a truck for better ground clearance/off road ability and the ability to haul stuff. My automotive background in trucks was with Toyota, so that is what I lean towards. I just had some really ticked off clients that had TRD superchargers on their trucks, and I just hate to see people go down that road.
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Some buy a truck as a tool
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Some want to try to mix a little of both

You don't even really want a truck, how could you possibly comprehend wanting to mod one?
I have come to the point where I really do want a truck for what it can do for me. I just don't enjoy driving them. Hell I don't enjoy using a microwave either, but I still like having one.

The modding bug is a bad one with me, and owning a turbocharged car doesn't help as they respond really well to mods. As far as trucks go I can absolutely see modding one for better performance. Many engine/cooling/durability mods that make the truck better for work translate into better street performance as well. It just seems that gassers are so expensive to get meaningful gains out of. I keep hoping for a Toyota diesel, but they don't seem to have much interest.
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Thats fair play.
BUT, maybe Toyota learnt from past mistakes and with the all new engine actually designed it with a SC in mind?
I still say the manufacturers have woken up and want some of the aftermarket pie (case in point look at your scion!).
I am wondering if TRD will bring out a lift kit (heck they have most other bases covered)
Basically we will all have to wait and see about the SC.

If I REALLY wanted to get 'CRAZY' here I would buy an Evo, but a truck suits my needs better, spec. here in Texas. I will see how funds and things go and then maybe look at SC. MY main concern is will it have to run on premium fuel and suck like a w**re? If so it's my Harley SC back and I'm NOT in
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Thats fair play.
BUT, maybe Toyota learnt from past mistakes and with the all new engine actually designed it with a SC in mind?
I still say the manufacturers have woken up and want some of the aftermarket pie (case in point look at your scion!).
I am wondering if TRD will bring out a lift kit (heck they have most other bases covered)
Basically we will all have to wait and see about the SC.

If I REALLY wanted to get 'CRAZY' here I would buy an Evo, but a truck suits my needs better, spec. here in Texas. I will see how funds and things go and then maybe look at SC. MY main concern is will it have to run on premium fuel and suck like a w**re? If so it's my Harley SC back and I'm NOT in
Burning premium fuel is a pain in the rear end, the Subaru requires it. Oh well I knew that going in, if you are going to run boost you are going to burn 91-93 octane. So hooray for paying more for fuel! Sorry but boost = 91-93 octane, it just the nature of the beast. I tried running 87 in my car once, bad bad idea. Lots of pinging that was audible under full throttle. In went a couple of cans of octane booster and easy as she goes that whole tank of gas.
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all depends on type of SC and boost they run stock (I wanna keep warranty IF I get one) but prem. is ok if I don't AVERAGE less than 12mpg as did with HD SC.
Had RX8 and FX35 before this and HD before that and gotta admit hitting NORMAL octane button at pump is a great welcome now.
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