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Forced Induction SystemsDetailed discussions regarding cold-air intake systens, superchargers, turbo chargers, and other induction systems for your vehicle.
This is a discussion thread titled "Turbo Kit", within the Forced Induction Systems forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
i dont think the performance gain from a remote mount turbo would be worth it. if it was so great why do all the vehicles that come turbo from the factory have the turbo under the hood? if it was better to have a remote mount wouldn't they do it right from the factory? yes heat does kill performance but like i said you can deal with heat.
You dont see it on new cars cause because the concept is new itself. Its not that it is less reliable, it does have limitations (no high water fording, etc) but it still makes boat loads of power.
Check out STS Turbo's website...there are PLENTY of cars/trucks out there that make just as much if not more power than their blown counterparts. Despite being further from the manifolds/headers, it can be tuned accordingly.
To each his own...but I am a big fan of the ease of install of the rear mount and know they make loads of power to boot...
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Mine: 2007 Tundra Double Cab, 5.7L, slate, 4x2, Flowmaster 50 series dual in/dual out, Homemade leveling kit (2.5"), black headlight mod, white LED gauges, custom 8" Sub enclosure
Hers: 2007 Tundra Double Cab, TRD 4x2, 4.7L, desert sand
Previous Vehicles:
1990 Jeep Wrangler Islander, Rancho Lift
1992 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 4x4 RCSB - 190,000 miles and still running strong when I sold it.
2001 Honda Magna VF750
2002 Chevrolet Tahoe Z71
2006 Chevrolet Trailblazer SS (8.9 sec 1/8 mile - STOCK)
Good Thing About Remote Mount Is The Piping, It Will Act Like An Intercooler Reducing Intake Air Temp And It Will Keep The Heat Down From The Engine Bay. There Is Very Minimal Amount Of Boost Loss From The Piping.
Our Trucks Have Massive Bottom End Torque, So A Turbo Would Be Better Cause Of The Added Higher Rpm Horsepower
We are planning both single and twin turbo configurations with and without intercoolers. The kit should be relatively inexpensive compared to the TRD supercharger and should make more power. We will be working on the first prototype this week so i will post pics along the way.
2007 Tundra 5.7 DBL Cab 4x4 LTD, Radiant Red, Options:
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2007 Tundra 5.7 4x2 RCSB slate metallic
2005 Corolla - all stock, cause it's the wifes
1986 Mustang GT - the stereo is under the hood
1990 Corolla - cause it was really cheap
Remember state and federal law says you cannot touch anything before the two last cat converters. So leagally the turbo or turbos have to be way back under the bed of the truck. Good luck.
Remember state and federal law says you cannot touch anything before the two last cat converters. So leagally the turbo or turbos have to be way back under the bed of the truck. Good luck.
I highly doubt this will be a carb legal setup to begin with. IOW - for "offroad use only"
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2007 Tundra 5.7 4x2 RCSB slate metallic
2005 Corolla - all stock, cause it's the wifes
1986 Mustang GT - the stereo is under the hood
1990 Corolla - cause it was really cheap
I'm definitely interested in what happens with this. was gonna do this myself but good to see someone beat me to it...
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2008 Salsa Red Pearl DCSB SR5 2WD
Corsa Sport Single Exit, Doug Thorley's, 20% Tint up front, Line-X, Access Roll-Up Tonneau, Alpine Touchscreen Nav, Sirius Satalite Radio... VA 757 Area Group MEETS
Future Mods: Color Matches Grill, Lowering Kit, TRD CAI, Wheels, Fender Flares, Supercharger, JL Stealthbox, Black Headlight Mod...
You dont see it on new cars cause because the concept is new itself. Its not that it is less reliable, it does have limitations (no high water fording, etc) but it still makes boat loads of power.
Check out STS Turbo's website...there are PLENTY of cars/trucks out there that make just as much if not more power than their blown counterparts. Despite being further from the manifolds/headers, it can be tuned accordingly.
To each his own...but I am a big fan of the ease of install of the rear mount and know they make loads of power to boot...
my main concern with a remote mount is the turbo being out in the open. second is lag. how much lag are you looking at for all that extra piping?? its like putting a big IC on a small factory size turbo you get lag and you most likely wont be getting the best performance out of the turbo due to the fact its working harder to fill the excess in the over sized IC. so with a remote mount if the piping is to large or the turbo to small i would think that you would get this same lag. i understand the whole you dont need a IC on a remote mount but how do you decide on piping size,turbo size & trim etc etc?? if it did happen i might look into it if its a nice kit but even then the whole "hey look that guy has a turbo under the bed of his truck!" worries me
Last edited by o0hitman0o; 05-13-2008 at 12:19 PM.
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Mine: 2007 Tundra Double Cab, 5.7L, slate, 4x2, Flowmaster 50 series dual in/dual out, Homemade leveling kit (2.5"), black headlight mod, white LED gauges, custom 8" Sub enclosure
Hers: 2007 Tundra Double Cab, TRD 4x2, 4.7L, desert sand
Previous Vehicles:
1990 Jeep Wrangler Islander, Rancho Lift
1992 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 4x4 RCSB - 190,000 miles and still running strong when I sold it.
2001 Honda Magna VF750
2002 Chevrolet Tahoe Z71
2006 Chevrolet Trailblazer SS (8.9 sec 1/8 mile - STOCK)
I don't think people understand how little lag time these remote mounts add to the equation. There really is very little spool time. One has to remember that these things are also not going to be huge turbos that someone might put under the hood. Check out STS's site for sure, they have a couple of nice vids of a silverado that is making GOBS of power and watch his videos and listen for lag, almost non existent.
Josh
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2008 Salsa Red Pearl DCSB SR5 2WD
Corsa Sport Single Exit, Doug Thorley's, 20% Tint up front, Line-X, Access Roll-Up Tonneau, Alpine Touchscreen Nav, Sirius Satalite Radio... VA 757 Area Group MEETS
Future Mods: Color Matches Grill, Lowering Kit, TRD CAI, Wheels, Fender Flares, Supercharger, JL Stealthbox, Black Headlight Mod...
Guys, we have 5.7 LITER motors. That's a ton of displacement. Our engines will flow enough gas that turbo lag (a function of how long it takes to spin the turbo up to ~120K RPMs, in addition to pressurizing all the piping) will be minimal. If you floored your truck at 40mph, the lag wouldn't be any longer than how long it takes to downshift to 2nd gear. Plus you're not going to loose any of your current power, so you'll still have the massive torque from our motor for lower rpms with the turbo accentuating the top end.