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hi, i just came back from my dealership.
i wanted to see and drive a new 5.7 V8 VVTI 2008 trd supercharged tundra.
well i soon learned they don't have them. nor can you buy 1 already installed.
also, they will not include the TRD supercharger into the loan, even on a brand new truck/suv. wow i'm amazed at that.
maybe it's just my dealership? south east toyota rule's & regulation's.

so you need 6+g's for the superchager with installation,
plus you down payment. OUCH!

you also need the dealership only to re-flash the ECU unit.

warrenty is void if you install it yourself.
and the mpg w/supercharger is projected to be 9mpg playing.
again OUCH!
just thought i'd let you know.

needless to say, i didn't buy 1.

also gas price's are projected to be $7 per gallon, very soon, by next year.
we have yet to see the whole effect of this.
my neighbor came back fom iraq he said gas was .10 per gallon.
but i'm still glad i live in america.
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whats the status on the turbo?
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Default Re: TRD supercharger and a brand new 5.7

When the S/C is available, it will be a few months before it can be incorporated into financing. It has been this way for quite some time, even when the 4.0 S/C was released, and dating back to the 3.4 S/C release.

Dealership is the only one that can do the ECU flash, and yes you WILL need it.

If installed personally, you only get a 1 year warranty on the S/C itself. It will *NOT* be covered under your powertrain warranty unless you have the dealership do the installation. Not sure about you doods, but with the threads about cams snapping and trannies blowing (even if they are rare cases) I would rather have that warranty to protect my powertrain.
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hi, i just came back from my dealership.
i wanted to see and drive a new 5.7 V8 VVTI 2008 trd supercharged tundra.
well i soon learned they don't have them. nor can you buy 1 already installed.
also, they will not include the TRD supercharger into the loan, even on a brand new truck/suv. wow i'm amazed at that.
maybe it's just my dealership?

Technically, a Toyota dealership can't finance the supercharger into the loan NOR can they sell it on a new Tundra - those are Toyota's rules. It has something to do with meeting emissions standards. If the EPA finds out Toyota is selling the supercharger as stock equipment, the number of emissions tests needed to certify the truck go way up (at least that's what I've been told).

Some dealers don't worry too much about rules like this - they'll just finance the truck thru someone other than Toyota Financial to minimize the risk of Toyota finding out.

Other dealers will work a check back to the consumer into the loan. The check is then used to buy the supercharger. It's pretty simple to pull this off, although it is technically against most bank's rules (but it's rarely enforced).

When I was a sales manager, we did this a few times with zero percent financing. I would work a check back to the customer into the loan, sometimes for as much as $10k. The customer would then use the check (financed at zero percent) to pay off higher interest rate debt. It was a win for everyone (except the finance company).

You just need to talk to someone a little more creative to get a supercharger financed.

As far as test driving one, it's going to be tough to pull off right now as most dealerships won't bother to stock one. I think this time last year a lot of dealers would have tried stocking a supercharged Tundra, but with truck demand in the crapper (industry-wide), it's a big investment to make with little guarantee of a return.

Believe me when I say that you'll like the supercharged Tundra very much.
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hi, i just came back from my dealership.
i wanted to see and drive a new 5.7 V8 VVTI 2008 trd supercharged tundra. well i soon learned they don't have them. nor can you buy 1 already installed. also, they will not include the TRD supercharger into the loan, even on a brand new truck/suv. wow i'm amazed at that. maybe it's just my dealership? south east toyota rule's & regulation's.
It is very unlikely any dealer will stock one and if one did it's even less likely they'll let the general public race one around the streets.

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so you need 6+g's for the supercharger with installation, plus you down payment. OUCH!
There's nothing unexpected there.

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you also need the dealership only to re-flash the ECU unit.
Again, nothing unexpected there.

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warrenty is void if you install it yourself.
and the mpg w/supercharger is projected to be 9mpg playing.
again OUCH!
That's incorrect. Self installation does not void any warranty. Where did you come up with that mpg figure? I believe the overall miles per gallon will be very much dependent on the driving habits of the owner. I've owned supercharged vehicles before and can tell you that typically the vehicle will lose a couple of points at first but in long run the owner will see little change in overall mpg figures.

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just thought i'd let you know. needless to say, i didn't buy 1.
I seriously doubt you ever had any intention of buying one. Look at your post, it's so full of gloom, doom and mis-information that know one will take it seriously.

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also gas price's are projected to be $7 per gallon, very soon, by next year. we have yet to see the whole effect of this. my neighbor came back fom iraq he said gas was .10 per gallon. but i'm still glad i live in america.gorilla
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Default Re: TRD supercharger and a brand new 5.7

opinion's vary.
maybe you feel you got hosed, thats why?
or maybe because you already bought your tundra.
i haven't got a clue why you feel that way.
BUT for those interested in buying a tundra, with the TRD supercharger, it has some useful infomation for the potential buyier.
maybe you should re-read the thread & post's.
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hi, also they told me they would give me 12 to 15g's off the sticker price, if i was to buy a new tundra.
it was almost enough for me, but not enough. i'd wait a little more, and most likely pick up 1 of your style soon enough, for such a discount, w/TRD supercharger,tricked out to.
at a price way below, anything we have ever imagined.
only time will tell. it's only due to the increase in gas price's.
my friend work's at a dealership and a 50g sticker denali is going for 30.
manuf. to dealer hidden incentive's are crazy large.
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hi ,just searched ebay
1- 2007 for under 20
many 2008 for under 30. many at 25ish.
so i sit here as i said and wait. it will only get better for me, in time.
please no offense, i'm only being a very smart buyier.
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I believe there's a dealership in CA that will finance a Camburg LT kit into a new Tundra, I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for a SC'd Tundra with a Camburg LT.

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LMAO @ Gorilla.......thay knew you were a stroke and not interested in buying anything so they didn't bother.


1)Your warranty info is waaaaay off.


2) IF (and I have my doubts about the 12K-15K off) the dealer will sell you a truck for $15,000 off sticker they will simply sell it to you for $9,000 off sticker and throw in the charger.

3) At 12-15K off sticker, you don't need a down payment unless you have terrible credit. (do you???)


Amazing to me that you were talking about $100,000 cars a short while ago but now are freaking out about high gas prices on a supercharged 500HP truck that would only run you about 30K.


Bizarre!!!




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Technically, a Toyota dealership can't finance the supercharger into the loan NOR can they sell it on a new Tundra - those are Toyota's rules. It has something to do with meeting emissions standards. If the EPA finds out Toyota is selling the supercharger as stock equipment, the number of emissions tests needed to certify the truck go way up (at least that's what I've been told).

You were told incorrectly......if the part has a CARB # it meets emission standards.


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Some dealers don't worry too much about rules like this - they'll just finance the truck thru someone other than Toyota Financial to minimize the risk of Toyota finding out.

There is no risk......if Toy financial will finance a % of MSRP (above, below or right at) it doesn't matter what the dealer makes or doesn't make on the deal.



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Other dealers will work a check back to the consumer into the loan. The check is then used to buy the supercharger. It's pretty simple to pull this off, although it is technically against most bank's rules (but it's rarely enforced).

There's a reason there is an accesories section on the contract.....again, if the loan meets the parameters (% of MSRP/invoice) it's not against any rules.


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When I was a sales manager, we did this a few times with zero percent financing. I would work a check back to the customer into the loan, sometimes for as much as $10k. The customer would then use the check (financed at zero percent) to pay off higher interest rate debt. It was a win for everyone (except the finance company).

Not really, the finance company still got the rebate.......



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You just need to talk to someone a little more creative to get a supercharger financed.

I agree 100%.....but like i said, I don't think they're taking him seriously.
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Wow... that is one crazy post.

In general rule, if you drive gently, and not pushing your truck/suv to the limit, you will gain around 1-2 mpg on regular basis. On the other hand, if you push your truck/suv to the limits you will lose around 2-4 mpgs.

Supercharger is not hard to install, but in some cases you need 2 people to do this job. It all depends how good you are, it can take 4-10 hours for install. I think install $$$ wise should not be more then labor for headers installation. Either way, if I had new Tundra, and I had cash for supercharger, I would intall it my self, regardless warranty issues.

I drove down to Punta Gorda FL - Toyota and asked sales manager if can give me a good deal on 4door tundra 4x4 Limited, and he said that he can sell it to me for $26k cash. So whats another $6k, and then total cost would be $32k for a Limited TRD supercharged Tundra?

If you want fully financed truck then try you local bank, and see if they will give you loan for sticker price, and then work out details with dealer.

Regardless of gas prices, people still going to drive, and from my experience, i would go for a supercharger even if gas was $12-per gallon.
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