Go Back   Toyota Tundra Forums : Tundra Solutions Forum > Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums > Handling Improvements



Readylift.com
Handy Toyota
IPT Performance Transmissions
4WheelParts.com

Free shipping on truck accessories at AutoAnything

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 04:29 PM
emstro's Avatar
Junior Member
 
My Garage
Dealer : Stadium Toyota Scion
2003 Toyota Tundra
My Details
Last Online: 02-10-2007 02:01 PM
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Gainesville, Florida
Age: 29
Posts: 90
Rep Power: 7
emstro is on a distinguished road.
Send a message via AIM to emstro emstro's Photo Albums
Default Tundra - Sloppy Handling?

I am considering an anti-sway bar but want to know the effect it will have on the handling - if you've installed a sway bar could you describe to me how it has improved the handling of your truck?
Reply With Quote


  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 04:44 PM
JnEsPappa's Avatar
Supporter
 
My Garage
Dealer : Hampton Toyota
2001 Toyota Tundra
My Details
Last Online: 06-12-2008 05:49 PM
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Lafayette, LA
Age: 40
Posts: 1,652
Rep Power: 9
JnEsPappa is on a distinguished road.
Send a message via AIM to JnEsPappa JnEsPappa's Photo Albums
Default

I installed Daystar 1" spacers to level my truck and it noticeably improved the trucks handling. It is nice and firm in corners now, where before it tended to lean out during curves which really bothered me.

...different route from swaybars...but the same result, IMO.
__________________
- Mark
Just a hangin' out.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 05:20 PM
mike.elmes's Avatar
Veteran Member
 
My Garage
Dealer : Sun Toyota - Edmonton
2000 Toyota Tundra
My Details
Last Online: 09-26-2009 12:27 PM
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Age: 49
Posts: 739
Rep Power: 8
mike.elmes is on a distinguished road.
mike.elmes's Photo Albums
Default

The rear antiswaybar was the single most desired mod $ for $ wise as well as for improvements in street handling and cornering. Ther are hundreds of members that spent 130.00 and were insanely happy. Do a search on Helwig or antiswaybar and read for yourself.
We can't all be wrong.

mike
__________________
Unichip'd TRD Supercharger & 5.9 Overboost Crank Pulley,TRD Boost guage and Oak color matched pod,TRD LSD,Valvebody Upgrade by IPT in NY, JBA headers,Y pipe, K&N(Evol) SS catback exhaust, Helwig Rear antisway bar, Rear custom Leafpack,TRD Coils,Cornfed Spacers's with Y/B Bilsteins,Westin Outdoorsman Bushbar and Nerf Tubes, TRD Ivan Stewart 16X8 Rims and 285/75/R16 Revo AT tires.Pioneer 5500 MP3 Head unit/Q-Logic sub enclosure with dual crossfire subs/ 700 watts of Crossfire Amps/Bazooka 6.5's and 5.25's in Kickpanels/ CodeAlarm Remote starter/antitheft system.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 07:06 PM
DJ DJ is offline
Supporter
 
My Garage
Dealer : Fowler Toyota
2001 Toyota Sequoia,
2000 Toyota Tundra
My Details
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Newcastle, OK
Posts: 1,689
Rep Power: 12
DJ will become famous soon enough. DJ will become famous soon enough.
DJ's Photo Albums
Default

The sway bar does not inhibit the up-and-down motion of the rear axle, so it does not add harshness to the ride. It does resist one side going up and the other side going down, because this twists the bar and the bar is very thick steel -- it resists being twisted. This means it resists the truck leaning to the side, so the truck doesn't lean so much in corners.

The Sequoia has one as standard equipment and so should the Tundra. Try it -- you'll like it.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 07:30 PM
mandzach's Avatar
mandzach
 
My Garage
Dealer : Findlay Toyota Scion
2003 Toyota Tundra,
2007 Toyota Tacoma SILVER-DC-OR-4x4
My Details
Last Online: 10-13-2007 12:40 AM
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 1,258
Rep Power: 8
mandzach is on a distinguished road.
mandzach's Photo Albums
Default

want handling?
well i have the hellwig sway bar in back and the wheelers coils in front and i drive a 03' 4x4 .....well - the sway bar really helped and you notice it a little when doing normal driving but when you do hard/extreme driving you really notice how well it works - i can get my truck to drift slightly with no worry of roll over now and befor the coils and sway bar i would have not been able to negotiate corners at the speeds i can now.
__________________
2007 Tacoma 4x4 DC/SB - Total Chaos UCA's, Donaho Racing CO's, Deaver Springs, 33" Toyo MT's

.................................................. .................................................> Built for Desert Fun!

Need Tranny Mods?--> IPT Valvebody calibration IPT Transmissions
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 07:31 PM
sidepocket's Avatar
Lurking Member
 
My Garage
N/A
My Details
Last Online: 06-24-2005 01:13 AM
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 0
sidepocket is on a distinguished road.
sidepocket's Photo Albums
Default

do sway bars only work on 4x4's or can they be used on 4x2's as well?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 07:33 PM
RSLAND's Avatar
Junior Member
 
My Garage
N/A
My Details
Last Online: 03-29-2008 01:14 AM
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Foresthill, CA
Posts: 184
Rep Power: 8
RSLAND is on a distinguished road.
RSLAND's Photo Albums
Default Try it, you'll lilke it...

It was the first mod that I did and it greatly improved the cornering ability of the truck. In addition, the truck will track a lot better going down the freeway. I liked mine so much, that when I sold my 2001 to buy my 2002, I removed the sway bar to put it on the new truck. I also have Helwig helper springs. These are for towing my trailer and really are not noticable when the trailer is parked.

Rob
__________________
2002 SR5 V-6 5spd, Helwig Anti-Sway and helper springs. TRD supercharger. URD FTC. TRD headers. Spintech Muffler, Falken STZ 04 tires, Prodigy trailer brake controller, Smittybilt nerfs.

04 Acura TSX - 200 hp and 30 mpg
07 Civic Coupe - 37 mpg - who needs a hybrid?
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 07:46 PM
sidepocket's Avatar
Lurking Member
 
My Garage
N/A
My Details
Last Online: 06-24-2005 01:13 AM
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 0
sidepocket is on a distinguished road.
sidepocket's Photo Albums
Default

oh, and another thing. Since I have the TRD package on my '04 tundra, will the sway bars still make a big difference?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 08:09 PM
mike.elmes's Avatar
Veteran Member
 
My Garage
Dealer : Sun Toyota - Edmonton
2000 Toyota Tundra
My Details
Last Online: 09-26-2009 12:27 PM
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Age: 49
Posts: 739
Rep Power: 8
mike.elmes is on a distinguished road.
mike.elmes's Photo Albums
Default

Swaybars work on 4x4 or 4x2....They do make a nice improvement in handling that would be noticeable day to day, in any sort of driving.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sidepocket
oh, and another thing. Since I have the TRD package on my '04 tundra, will the sway bars still make a big difference?
__________________
Unichip'd TRD Supercharger & 5.9 Overboost Crank Pulley,TRD Boost guage and Oak color matched pod,TRD LSD,Valvebody Upgrade by IPT in NY, JBA headers,Y pipe, K&N(Evol) SS catback exhaust, Helwig Rear antisway bar, Rear custom Leafpack,TRD Coils,Cornfed Spacers's with Y/B Bilsteins,Westin Outdoorsman Bushbar and Nerf Tubes, TRD Ivan Stewart 16X8 Rims and 285/75/R16 Revo AT tires.Pioneer 5500 MP3 Head unit/Q-Logic sub enclosure with dual crossfire subs/ 700 watts of Crossfire Amps/Bazooka 6.5's and 5.25's in Kickpanels/ CodeAlarm Remote starter/antitheft system.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 11:14 PM
H2O_MAN's Avatar
Obama lies ~ the economy dies
 
My Garage
Dealer : Heyward Allen Toyota Scion
2002 Toyota Tundra 4WD long bed V8 SR5
My Details
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 4,543
Rep Power: 24
H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor.
H2O_MAN's Photo Albums
Default

EM, go to a Toyota dealer and test drive a TRD Sport that has the rear anti sway bar. Better yet, find someone in your area that has a Hellwig equipped Tundra and go for a ride. I think you will like what the bars does for your truck.

I don't think I could own another vehicle without a rear anti sway bar...
__________________






Old T100 items for sale



Thunder Gray Metallic
2002 REGULAR CAB - LONG BED - 4WD - V8 - SR5

TRD / Kazuma LSD made by EATON
Bilstein HD shocks
Michelin 8 ply E series radials
JBA headers
Hellwig rear bar
Line-X over the rail
2005 tail lights
OEM Door Sill protectors
TRD Off-Road front coil springs
Color matched LEER Hi-Top cap
Wet Okole Sport Seat Covers
Tinted Windows
OEM Rubber Bed Mat
OEM All-Weather mats
OEM Towing Package with Remote Transmission Cooler
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 11:57 PM
Supporter
 
My Garage
Dealer : Camelback Toyota Scion
2007 Toyota Tundra 4x4 Crewmax Limited
My Details
Last Online: 09-23-2009 12:11 PM
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 124
Images: 10
Rep Power: 8
hbonney is on a distinguished road.
hbonney's Photo Albums
Default

The only downside of a swaybar is the decrease in articulation when 4-wheeling...off road, it is a good thing to articulate...it helps keep drive wheels on the ground. This is really important in Tundras running open or LSD differential, as the Toyota LSD is of almost no value off road. A soon as you get one wheel almost off the ground, all the power goes to that wheel, spins, and this stops forward motion!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2004, 11:59 PM
TRDKEAU's Avatar
Veteran Member
 
My Garage
Dealer : Carson Toyota Scion
2006 Toyota 4Runner
My Details
Last Online: 07-24-2008 12:36 PM
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: OG Kaimuki. in Oceanside,CA
Posts: 1,605
Rep Power: 9
TRDKEAU is on a distinguished road.
TRDKEAU's Photo Albums
Default

you could always do RAS.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2004, 04:31 AM
oneprblmcat's Avatar
Junior Member
 
My Garage
Dealer : Toyota of Glendora
2006 Toyota Tundra DC SR5 4x4 Moonroof
My Details
Last Online: 11-11-2009 11:43 PM
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: La Verne, CA
Posts: 123
Rep Power: 6
oneprblmcat is on a distinguished road.
oneprblmcat's Photo Albums
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hbonney
The only downside of a swaybar is the decrease in articulation when 4-wheeling...off road, it is a good thing to articulate...it helps keep drive wheels on the ground. This is really important in Tundras running open or LSD differential, as the Toyota LSD is of almost no value off road. A soon as you get one wheel almost off the ground, all the power goes to that wheel, spins, and this stops forward motion!

Not to get off topic, but wouldn't the LSD still be better than an open diff. on a 4x4? I haven't gotten my Tundra yet and thought the LSD would be a good idea.
__________________
'06 Tundra DC SR5 4x4
'91 Honda Accord Wagon
'30 Ford AA Flatbed Dually (workin' on it)
'00 Yamaha V-star 1100 Classic (my commuter)
'03 Yamaha V-star 1100 Custom (wife's commuter)

Woke up to hear the cat flushing the toilet.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2004, 04:43 AM
TRDKEAU's Avatar
Veteran Member
 
My Garage
Dealer : Carson Toyota Scion
2006 Toyota 4Runner
My Details
Last Online: 07-24-2008 12:36 PM
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: OG Kaimuki. in Oceanside,CA
Posts: 1,605
Rep Power: 9
TRDKEAU is on a distinguished road.
TRDKEAU's Photo Albums
Default

that might be the case if your doing rockcrawling adventures, in that case if you get yourself in that D of S, you shouldve had ARB or full locker of some sort. but even then thats why you have support crews, winches, tow straps, hi-lifts, etc etc.

For general traction, LSD is a great value. It has been said that LSD with a 2wd is almost as good or the same as a open diff 4wd.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2004, 07:43 AM
H2O_MAN's Avatar
Obama lies ~ the economy dies
 
My Garage
Dealer : Heyward Allen Toyota Scion
2002 Toyota Tundra 4WD long bed V8 SR5
My Details
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 4,543
Rep Power: 24
H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor. H2O_MAN is a superior contributor.
H2O_MAN's Photo Albums
Default

The whole idea behind great handling is to keep all 4 tires firmly planted on the surface at all times and the anti-sway bar helps you do this plus, it reduces body roll.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:32 AM.