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Handling ImprovementsTechnical discussions regarding sport suspensions, performance sway bars, shock absorbers, lowering kits and handling improvement systems.
This is a discussion thread titled "Anti Sway Bar", within the Handling Improvements forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
Be aware that having an overly stiff anti-sway bar at the rear of any vehicle can increase the tendency to over-steer (rear of vehicle slides out in hard cornering). So be careful when adding or upgrading a rear bar.
That may be true, but the under-steer with the tundra's was a little over bearing. So the addition of this anti-sway bar has always a huge addition to the tundra. And from what I've heard the over-steer hasn't been to much of a problem with these trucks with anti-sway bars. I mean........it's still a truck
__________________ David~2001 Toyota Tundra 4X4 TRD SR5~SSautochrome headers~Single 2.5" exhaust w/ Flowmaster 50 series delta flow muffler~K&N FIPK intake system w/True-flow filter~ASP underdrive pulley~Hellwig Anti-Sway Bar(removed)~Powertrax No-slip~Daystar 1.25" spacer & AAL~Diff breather mod~255/85 BFG M/T on Wheelers Black Steelies Type B~Custom Rocksliders~Skid Row front skid plate
So when is the group buy going to happen? It should happen. Being that you (Hobbes) know more about this than anyone, i think you should contact the guinea pig or contact Nparrot and Warrior for us so we can get this going and setting up the poll to see just how many of us want these disconnects. I know many have the Hellwig here, there's got to be many wanting diconnects. And ones wanting both the hellwig and the disconnects who are new here and do not have them yet.
The TRD ASB was standard with the Tundra TRD Sport package which required the brackets factory welded to the rear axle. The Hellwig ASB is an after-market option for those non-TRD Sport package Tundra owners who would like to enhance the cornering capability of their Tundra. I installed the Hellwig ASB (JC Whitney) on my 2004 Tundra Limited AC with the TRD Off Road package, and it has helped the overall handling of my truck. Here is a TS link (courtesy of Tremo) that may help to understand the mechanics required to install the bolt on after-market Hellwig ASB.
Patience is a virtue . I PM'd the other member and he just got back with me. He said that he has delayed making the purchase for personal reasons but was actually planning on ordering the disconnects today. It will probably be a few days before he receives them and I asked him to give me an update when he gets them on concerning the quality of the parts and ease of use, etc. So hopefully by early next week at the latest (thinking that it may not be till this weekend until he can install them) we should at least know what the correct part number is. Again, I don't know if Warrior will be willing to do a group buy or not. I asked him to ask that question if he hasn't already ordered the part. When I was working on the group buy for the sway bar, I talked with several vendors who were not willing to participate...or they would as long as all the bars were ordered at the same time and sent to one address. Then I would have had to reship them to individuals....that would have really driven the cost up. So a group buy may or may not work out, but you'll at least have a vendor and part number to go to. I promise that I won't forget about this and will pass on the latest word as soon as I have it.
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Patience is a virtue . I PM'd the other member and he just got back with me. He said that he has delayed making the purchase for personal reasons but was actually planning on ordering the disconnects today. It will probably be a few days before he receives them and I asked him to give me an update when he gets them on concerning the quality of the parts and ease of use, etc. So hopefully by early next week at the latest (thinking that it may not be till this weekend until he can install them) we should at least know what the correct part number is. Again, I don't know if Warrior will be willing to do a group buy or not. I asked him to ask that question if he hasn't already ordered the part. When I was working on the group buy for the sway bar, I talked with several vendors who were not willing to participate...or they would as long as all the bars were ordered at the same time and sent to one address. Then I would have had to reship them to individuals....that would have really driven the cost up. So a group buy may or may not work out, but you'll at least have a vendor and part number to go to. I promise that I won't forget about this and will pass on the latest word as soon as I have it.
Yeah, I hear ya , but someone needs to tell him when the first 20 are bought , they are still all going to different addresses. DuH. Then I'll tell him the truth hurts! Duh! And another thing who do these people think they are thinking this way. We will be paying for the shipping, they just have UPS, Fed-ex, or whomever do the rest. Pick ups are common, that is why we having shipping companies out in the world. Stupid people.
Another thing I work in the Longshoring industry and I know all too much about the shipping industry. So tell Warrior, who do they think they are, just ship the friggin things. Some people just need to wake up!
Companies are in the industry, market to make money, Nothing more, its pure and simple, tell that dude on the other line to do his job.
The Hellwig is a bigger diameter bar, and should -- in theory -- out-perform the TRD bar.
Now, I have the Hellwig on my 4x4 Double Cab TRD Off-Road and let me tell you it is the best bang-for-the-buck "performance" mod. The truck corners like a freaking sports car now (okay, not really, but I'd put it up against any other 4x4 and kick their *** )
You'll be really happy with the Helwig. Put one on my 03 AC two years ago. It was a PITA to install, but well worth it. Just last night, as I went through a sweeping curve on the freeway at 70 mph without a hint of body roll, I was thinking how much I love the Helwig. In terms of bang for your buck, it's the best mod you can make.
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--Options--
Limited, LSD, Tow Package, Drop-in Bed Liner, Bed Rails, Leather Pkg.
--Mods--
Chrome Nerf Bars, Helwig Anti-Sway Bar, K&N Drop-in Air Filter, Bed Extender, Brembo Cryo'd Rotors, 2" Convex Mirrors
Holy crap, I had no idea these trucks didn't come with RASB. Maybe that explains my disappointment with the handling over my previous trucks. Here I thought it was just the minimally higher stance contributing to more roll. My prior truck with 16" A/T's handled better than this one with 17" highway tires.
Going shopping.....where's the best place to buy the Hellwig?
Going shopping.....where's the best place to buy the Hellwig?
I bought mine at www.jcwhitney.com. The total price including shipping was cheaper than the GB from Hellwig.
__________________ 2004 Tundra Limited AC: Phantom Gray with standard LTD options + cloth front captains chairs/center console, night vision mirror, wood accent trim, TRD Off Road package, LSD, DRL, tow package, and two of the GS Toyota B$ packages. Modifications: LineX; debadged doors and removed front grill V8 badge (symmetricity); front door window privacy tint, 3M Clear Bra (full frontal), Toyota OEM bed extender (Ebay); Backup Sensors (Ebay); Aries SS Front Bull Bar/Skid Plate (Ebay); SS side step bars (Ebay); Hellwig ASB (JCW); 4 x Pioneer TS-A1671R door speakers driven by JBL CS60.4; 2 x 8 inch Rockford Fosgate Punch Stage 1 driven by JBL GTO 301.1; Q-Logic sub enclosure; Dynamated front/rear doors.
I bought mine at www.jcwhitney.com. The total price including shipping was cheaper than the GB from Hellwig.
Same place I bought mine, and i couldn't be happier with it! At the time they took off 10% for every purchase over $100. That covered my shipping exactly. It was like buying the bar with free shipping!! So long as you don't want a red one, jcwhitney is the place to go to get one.
__________________ David~2001 Toyota Tundra 4X4 TRD SR5~SSautochrome headers~Single 2.5" exhaust w/ Flowmaster 50 series delta flow muffler~K&N FIPK intake system w/True-flow filter~ASP underdrive pulley~Hellwig Anti-Sway Bar(removed)~Powertrax No-slip~Daystar 1.25" spacer & AAL~Diff breather mod~255/85 BFG M/T on Wheelers Black Steelies Type B~Custom Rocksliders~Skid Row front skid plate
I've just worked out the install issues with my Hellwig. The endlink bolts are JUST long enough to work, and work only with the use of several vice grips to squeeze the bushings together to thread on the nut. Otherwise, the bolt won't pass through the last bushing and washer. Others have cut the spacer, but I couldn't see doing that. Perhaps those installing these every day would have known this trick, but it was a real head scratcher to figure it out the hard way. Other than this little bit, many have posted issues with the frame bolt spinning when they try to lock it down. I have the use of air tools in my garage and these made quick work of it. A must have in my opinion. I greatly suggest looking for the tutorials two of the members have posted on this site. Awesome write ups!
__________________ 2002 Tundra AC 4x4 Off Road Package - Revtek coil lift with Wheeler's 1.5" AAL. Superlift Truspeed Recalibration unit. Flomaster dual exhaust. Husky floor liners. Hellwig anti sway bar. Xmas Gift 2006 - 3" Perf. Accessories body lift and Gap guards - Installed 1/6/07! New tires in March 2007 - BFG AT 30570r16 on MT Classic IIs. Total Chaos steering bushing kit. Front swaybar bushing kit from Wheelers Offroad. Stubbie 21" antenna. Underdrive pulley installed with NAPA belt. Timing chain replacement and brake job are next!
Re: Anti Sway Bar
David~2001 Toyota Tundra 4X4 TRD SR5~SSautochrome headers~Single 2.5" exhaust w/ Flowmaster 50 series delta flow muffler~K&N FIPK intake system w/True-flow filter~ASP underdrive pulley~Hellwig Anti-Sway Bar(removed)~Powertrax No-slip~Daystar 1.25" spacer & AAL~Diff breather mod~255/85 BFG M/T on Wheelers Black Steelies Type B~Custom Rocksliders~Skid Row front skid plate
. I PM'd the other member and he just got back with me. He said that he has delayed making the purchase for personal reasons but was actually planning on ordering the disconnects today. It will probably be a few days before he receives them and I asked him to give me an update when he gets them on concerning the quality of the parts and ease of use, etc. So hopefully by early next week at the latest (thinking that it may not be till this weekend until he can install them) we should at least know what the correct part number is. Again, I don't know if Warrior will be willing to do a group buy or not. I asked him to ask that question if he hasn't already ordered the part. When I was working on the group buy for the sway bar, I talked with several vendors who were not willing to participate...or they would as long as all the bars were ordered at the same time and sent to one address. Then I would have had to reship them to individuals....that would have really driven the cost up. So a group buy may or may not work out, but you'll at least have a vendor and part number to go to. I promise that I won't forget about this and will pass on the latest word as soon as I have it.
Re: Anti Sway Bar
Re: Anti Sway Bar
2002 Tundra AC 4x4 Off Road Package - Revtek coil lift with Wheeler's 1.5" AAL. Superlift Truspeed Recalibration unit. Flomaster dual exhaust. Husky floor liners. Hellwig anti sway bar. Xmas Gift 2006 - 3" Perf. Accessories body lift and Gap guards - Installed 1/6/07! New tires in March 2007 - BFG AT 30570r16 on MT Classic IIs. Total Chaos steering bushing kit. Front swaybar bushing kit from Wheelers Offroad. Stubbie 21" antenna. Underdrive pulley installed with NAPA belt. Timing chain replacement and brake job are next!
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