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Has anyone with Grill guards, bull bars, nerf bars, hitches gotten into an accident in your tundra? Specifically...

Would a grill guard, bull bar save your truck any damage if you accidentally rear-ended someone?

Would nerf bars provide any protection if you got T-boned?

Obviously a hitch would f#$% up any car or something that rear ends you, but would a go rhino hitch step be better for protecting more of the bumper?

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I have a grill guard and hitch.

IN any accident >10-15mph I personally think hte add-ons will cause more damage including hte add'on. For example if I rear-end some-one it will mess up their vehicle because I've now focused hte impact on 2 main uprights in stead of the front bumper surface. ALso the impact will torque all hte barckets and attachments points.

I've installed them for parking situations as I've witnessed people "tap" and feel out their space way too many times.

Typical nerf bars offer little protection. Get sliders fabbed up for true side protection.

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Has anyone with Grill guards, bull bars, nerf bars, hitches gotten into an accident in your tundra? Specifically...

Would a grill guard, bull bar save your truck any damage if you accidentally rear-ended someone?

Would nerf bars provide any protection if you got T-boned?

Obviously a hitch would f#$% up any car or something that rear ends you, but would a go rhino hitch step be better for protecting more of the bumper?

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Typical nerf bars offer little protection. Get sliders fabbed up for true side protection.
What are sliders?
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Sliders are basically custom nerf bars. Typically they are either welded to the frame, or bolted to the frame with hte frame reinforced.

THey are much stronger and are designed to "slide" along rocks/ditches, and are usually strong enough to support hte weight of hte truck and be used as a jack surface.

If you do a seacrh some have installed the mon their trucks.


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Sliders are basically custom nerf bars. Typically they are either welded to the frame, or bolted to the frame with hte frame reinforced.

THey are much stronger and are designed to "slide" along rocks/ditches, and are usually strong enough to support hte weight of hte truck and be used as a jack surface.

If you do a seacrh some have installed the mon their trucks.
So, nerf bars on steriods! Thanks...
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Offroad Solutions Tacoma Sliders

their tundra sliders are in development as of a couple weeks ago when i started bugging them about it .

they allow the truck to be slid or pivoted on/about the slider over an obstacle. honestly a bit of overkill if youre not going offroad.

also keep in mind that safety is derived from crumple zones in an automobile, not tank-like armour, and that in a t-bone, a slider attached firmly to the frame may not be what you want, as all that energy will be immediately transferred to the frame and *you*. a standard nerf bar with two or three attachments over the wheel to wheel length of the bar, or a nerf bar which mates using the cab-frame bolts, would be safer in a t-bone as it will give way to some degree, decelerating the incoming vehicle. same goes for front and rear bumpers, which is why the arb bumper (crash tested and air bag compatible) is much, much better than the iron tube ranch-hand style bumpers.

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HOW GOOD IS YOUR TRAILER HITCH?


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Heavy duty trailer hitch.............Priceless.
any idea where that pic was taken? that road/cliff in the background looks awfully familiar to me for some reason.
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any idea where that pic was taken? that road/cliff in the background looks awfully familiar to me for some reason.
It was actually in a Trucking Magazine, but I cannot recall the location. But it is a real photo that this happened!
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Who/wehn will htese sliders be available. Plus will they be bolt on, or weld? Any prices? and finally will they ship?
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Offroad Solutions Tacoma Sliders

their tundra sliders are in development as of a couple weeks ago when i started bugging them about it .

they allow the truck to be slid or pivoted on/about the slider over an obstacle. honestly a bit of overkill if youre not going offroad.

also keep in mind that safety is derived from crumple zones in an automobile, not tank-like armour, and that in a t-bone, a slider attached firmly to the frame may not be what you want, as all that energy will be immediately transferred to the frame and *you*. a standard nerf bar with two or three attachments over the wheel to wheel length of the bar, or a nerf bar which mates using the cab-frame bolts, would be safer in a t-bone as it will give way to some degree, decelerating the incoming vehicle. same goes for front and rear bumpers, which is why the arb bumper (crash tested and air bag compatible) is much, much better than the iron tube ranch-hand style bumpers.

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It was actually in a Trucking Magazine, but I cannot recall the location. But it is a real photo that this happened!
it looks like the seward highway, just south of anchorage.

anyway, dunno when the offroad solutions tundra sliders will be ready. if you want, i could give them a call, but it might be better if you did it, since i bug them all the time anyway...someone else calling might demonstrate a little more interest . they do really good work...

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Has anyone with Grill guards, bull bars, nerf bars, hitches gotten into an accident in your tundra? Specifically...

Would a grill guard, bull bar save your truck any damage if you accidentally rear-ended someone?

Would nerf bars provide any protection if you got T-boned?

Obviously a hitch would f#$% up any car or something that rear ends you, but would a go rhino hitch step be better for protecting more of the bumper?

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I was hit from behind while stopped in traffic on the highway by a 99 Ford F-250 pulling a six horse trailer loaded with three horses. The driver was a 17 year old girl driving with her mother. They hit me at about 50 mph. (skid marks were only three feet long) I was in a 93 Mazda 4x4. The impact literally launched my truck off all four wheels and threw me into the Montero in from of me. I didn't even touch their bumper. I hit the back window! Anyway, my truck was totaled but not because of the hit I took from behind but because of the hit in front. To make a long story short (too late, I know). The Ford had a small push guard and had almost no damage. Their guard hit my hitch and part of my tailgate. No big deal. If there had not been someone in front of me, my truck would never have been totaled. That hitch could have saved my truck and barely had a scratch on it. Oh well, I bought a 93 Toyota 4x4 with the money I got for my Mazda. At least I got a better truck out of the deal.
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WOW! good story d0truji! I mean, glad you made it through that and hope you have no lasting effects. I am not under the impression that a grill guard will crumple in an accident either. Especially since the one I want is the Go Rhino similar to the ones on Ford Crown Vic police Interceptors. Police use those to push cars out of ditches and spin people out using the pitt maneuver. Jinx has the Go Rhino that Ill eventually get. My only apprehension is how it will affect the operation of my airbag if I did happen to rear end someone.

What the heck is a 17 year old girl doing driving an F250 and towing?
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Hi all...

I've got a wrap-around grill guard on my '00 2wd RegCab Tundra. A few weeks ago, some no-license no-insurance teenager pulls out in front of me and I hit her right-rear corner with my left front... The bumper was slightly damaged and the end of the grill guard pushed into the fender and damaged it... Had it not been there, I anticipate (judging from the impact angle and force and her damage) that much more than the fender and bumper would have been damaged -- the hood would probably need replacing and the entire front corner would be heavily damaged (40mph collision). My turn signal wasn't even damaged. Of course, there will always be cases when the presence of the guard will actually aggravate the damages.

Right now, I have to fight this out with my insurance company... the left "wing" of the guard was bent in and weakened -- does anyone know if this is an argument for replacement? The guard was on the truck when I bought it (2nd owner) and it was insured as such, although the insurance company never took pictures when I aquired it.

Should I get the body shop to include the price of the guard in the estimate? How should I approach it? Any help would be greatly appreciated...

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What can you install to protect the rear bumper besides a good ole hitch??
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