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This is a discussion thread titled "Things on your Tundra...(add ons or features)", within the Interior & Exterior forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
yes little metal door in filler tube ---- why not have one !!??!
i noticed that the other day .
heres one...
WHY NO LOCKING FUEL DOOR !?!? at least offer a locking cap at the dealer.
heres another.....
why offer abs as an option and then order/ship every single one with abs!?!?!?
i want brakes that work off road also....abs just does not(dont start talking abs i know all about them and i dont like them)
last one for now......
why use such a cheap brake rotor on its trucks that causes them to warp!?!?!
let me say my tundra is way,way,way better than my last silverado and the ram befor it. just sending a few quirps out there- nice thread
heres one...
WHY NO LOCKING FUEL DOOR !?!? at least offer a locking cap at the dealer.
Why did they stop producing them.....? Mine had one from original.
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Why does the off road package have 16" wheels, not the 17" ones that are available. I would think 17" wheels would provide more ground clearance?
Ground clearance is a function of tire diameter, not rim/wheel diameter.
However, for a given tire diameter, a 16 inch rim is much better for off road use than a 17 inch rim because it allows for a taller tire sidewall. The taller tire sidewall in turn allows for more tire flex when going over rocks and other trail obstacles. That flexibility provides better grip, reduces jar into the suspension, etc.
A lot of us would have preferred that the off road package have 15 inch rims as even the 16s are a bit large. However, 15s don't look as nice...and a smaller rim/taller sidewall tire doesn't handle nearly as well on pavement. Pavement is where a low profile (short sidewall) 17 inch rim is best...here you want minimal sidewall flex when cornering. So, IMHO, TRD reached a a good compromise by using the 16s in the off road package. In my book no one should be taking a vehicle with 17 inch rims/30 inch diameter tires onto anything but graded or paved roads...there's just not enough tire between the rim and the surface.
yes i know -some things changed on 03' and up
i love 02 steel bumper -locking gas door
but i belive the 03 still to be a ok ride
Yeah, with the '03 and later, Toyota really did some giving an taking:
Giving:
Full towing wiring harness as part of the towing package. Yeah! I really appreciated this one as it made hooking up a trailer brake controller a super easy task.
ABS Stock. Yeah, I know this is a love or hate thing, but I'm one who loves having ABS.
Changes to the transmission for better longevity
Improved brakes...bigger, less likely to have warping
Taking:
Locking fuel filler door. I don't mind but I'm sure people who have to leave their trucks unattended in dodgy areas probably do.
Steel front bumper. I have a funny feeling the plastic bumper isn't going to deal with minor bumps as well as the steel one did.
Ability to use synthetic transmission fluid. Type T-4 is dino juice, very good dino juice maybe, but still dino juice. Perhaps not important for many but as one who tows in the mountains, I would have definitely preferred the option of going synthetic.
There are other changes but these are the ones I've particularly noticed.
Ground clearance is a function of tire diameter, not rim/wheel diameter.
However, for a given tire diameter, a 16 inch rim is much better for off road use than a 17 inch rim because it allows for a taller tire sidewall. The taller tire sidewall in turn allows for more tire flex when going over rocks and other trail obstacles. That flexibility provides better grip, reduces jar into the suspension, etc.
A lot of us would have preferred that the off road package have 15 inch rims as even the 16s are a bit large. However, 15s don't look as nice...and a smaller rim/taller sidewall tire doesn't handle nearly as well on pavement. Pavement is where a low profile (short sidewall) 17 inch rim is best...here you want minimal sidewall flex when cornering. So, IMHO, TRD reached a a good compromise by using the 16s in the off road package. In my book no one should be taking a vehicle with 17 inch rims/30 inch diameter tires onto anything but graded or paved roads...there's just not enough tire between the rim and the surface.
Thanks.
This is my first 4WD and have only driven others on the beach. I always looked at the lifted trucks with huge tires and assumed you put on the gigantic tires for off roading. They appeared to have larger rims & tires. It makes sense that you want to maximize the OD (limited to the wheel well size) and minimize the ID to get the highest sidewall to help abosorb shock.
heres one...
WHY NO LOCKING FUEL DOOR !?!? at least offer a locking cap at the dealer.
Why did they stop producing them.....? Mine had one from original.
I remember TS ers bitching about having to unlock the door in winter,getting zapped(I like that )from static.
I myself like having it locked.
I guess Toyota was listening to TS.
It seemed odd when looking at '04s with a flip cap.
RichR
Hey, are you saying that the changes made to the auto transmission are such that the newer truck shouldn't use synthetic ATF or that the older trucks shouldn't??
I would appreciate clarification.
mike
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Originally Posted by RockyMtnRay
Yeah, with the '03 and later, Toyota really did some giving an taking:
Giving:
Full towing wiring harness as part of the towing package. Yeah! I really appreciated this one as it made hooking up a trailer brake controller a super easy task.
ABS Stock. Yeah, I know this is a love or hate thing, but I'm one who loves having ABS.
Changes to the transmission for better longevity
Improved brakes...bigger, less likely to have warping
Taking:
Locking fuel filler door. I don't mind but I'm sure people who have to leave their trucks unattended in dodgy areas probably do.
Steel front bumper. I have a funny feeling the plastic bumper isn't going to deal with minor bumps as well as the steel one did.
Ability to use synthetic transmission fluid. Type T-4 is dino juice, very good dino juice maybe, but still dino juice. Perhaps not important for many but as one who tows in the mountains, I would have definitely preferred the option of going synthetic.
There are other changes but these are the ones I've particularly noticed.
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Hey, are you saying that the changes made to the auto transmission are such that the newer truck shouldn't use synthetic ATF or that the older trucks shouldn't??
I would appreciate clarification.
mike
The changes made to the transmission were apparently done to fix weaknesses in the the pre-'03 models (especially the planetaries). In so doing, Toyota no longer specifies Dexron type ATF (which was the spec ATF for the earlier models)...and all synthetics are basically Dexron equivalents. Instead the '03s and later must, according to Toyota, use Toyota Type T-4 (which is not a Dexron type ATF).
The requirement to use Type T-4 in the later models in no way affects the ability to use synthetics in the earlier (pre-'03 models)...the spec for the earlier models was and is Dexron and synthetics are Dexron equivalents. IOW, there is no prohibition against synthetic in your truck and indeed you probably should use synthetic ATF.
However the requirement to use T-4 in the new models very much makes use of any synthetic problematic in the '03s and later. Mobil specifically told one TS member to remove Mobil 1 ATF from his '03s transmission and have it thoroughly flushed with T-4 ASAP...Mobil 1 ATF is NOT approved by Mobil for the newer transmissions.
Bottom line:
'00 to '02: Spec remains Dexron. Synthetic ATF is allowed and in fact is a good idea.
'03 and later: Spec is Type T-4. Synthetic ATF is NOT allowed. Period. The standard transmission recommendation here that a person replace his tranny fluid with synthetic ATF simply is not applicable to those of us who own '03s and newer.
yes i know -some things changed on 03' and up
i love 02 steel bumper -locking gas door
but i belive the 03 still to be a ok ride
I learned something new. I had no idea '03 and up didn't have locking fuel doors.
Very strange, can you open them from in the cab?
I happen to have a complete '02 steel bumper I would consider parting with...
I learned something new. I had no idea '03 and up didn't have locking fuel doors.
Very strange, can you open them from in the cab?
No. You just pull on them and they open. They have a catch so they kinda snap closed.
Here is another difference with the +03's. The door moulding on the Acc. Cabs only run from the front to the rear doors. On the older models it runs from the front door to the rear wheel well.
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Things about your Tundra that make you go Hmmmmm
- I don't care for ABS either.
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