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Old 04-30-2004, 06:13 PM
 
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Default Rubber Boot for Cap?

I have an ARE cap on order. When I asked the dealer about the rubber boot between the truck and the cap, he said not to get it because it rubs the paint off the truck. I think I like the idea of having the cap and the truck "linked" by the boot.

Anyone have any comments as to whether the paint will get rubbed off, and if so , should I care?

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Boots rub paint off. Dust and dirt get between boot and truck and act as sandpaper. The bed flexes differently from the cab. You can add the same clear vinyl that protects front of vehicles to delay the effects. If you want to sell the truck in the future it may affect value slightly if paint is completely rubbed off. Some folks buy used pick-ups and reluctantly take one with a shell and then take the shell off to sell if they don't want it.

Is there a reason you didn't order the ARE shell with a slider? If it is because of visibility its a valid concern. I have Snugtop with a slider so I look through three pieces of glass with the back glass of the Snugtop tinted. In daylight I don't notice anything significant but it might be because I am used to it. At night its a bit darker but I still feel visibility is acceptable.

My Snugtop has a fold down slider for cleaning. I wipe Rain-X on it occasionally and that helps.

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I really wanted the compression boot but noticed a few problems. If you look at the Tundra back window, it is rather large with very little room for the boot to compress and make a good seal. Also most caps have rather small front windows. I decided to make mine a straight pass through. I installed a breezer window first, http://www.breezerwindow.com/, this enabled me to be able to remove my cap and replace the window fairly easily. It also made the 2 windows, cap and cab, closer to being the same size. I then connected the two with accordian boot rubber. The good news was it worked well, kids and dogs would love it. Wind noise is at a minimum (I installed pipe insulation around the boot which goes fairly unnoticeable). I also like being able to throw stuff into the bed from the cab. The bad news was the breezer window though good in theory is not a good fit on my 2003 Tundra. The window replacement does not fit after installation. Overall I like what I've done but may have to restore it to stock prior to resale. Meanwhile, it sure is a lot easier to see out the back even with my limo tint. Check out my photo gallery.[IMG]
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I'm not sure if it is the same for the ARE, but my SnugTop boot does not touch any paint. It seals against the window frame. The only time it leaks is if I use a high pressure hose while washing.
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GoSmurf,
You are just the guy I've been looking for, I guess no one else has a breezer yet.
Are you saying that once you installed the frame, the window would not fit into it? That must be pretty disapointing! Does it just not fit tight, or wont stay in at all? How does the boot attach to the cab? does it leak?I am planning to do a similar thing with my truck, and would appreciate any updates or advice. I like th Idea about the pipe insulation, as long as my dogs dont get it! Maybe Ill glue it down somehow. Already ordered the Breezer, still looking for a pre-owned cap for my 2000 reg. cab.

How do you like your Cap?

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I really wanted the compression boot but noticed a few problems. If you look at the Tundra back window, it is rather large with very little room for the boot to compress and make a good seal. Also most caps have rather small front windows. I decided to make mine a straight pass through. I installed a breezer window first, http://www.breezerwindow.com/, this enabled me to be able to remove my cap and replace the window fairly easily. It also made the 2 windows, cap and cab, closer to being the same size. I then connected the two with accordian boot rubber. The good news was it worked well, kids and dogs would love it. Wind noise is at a minimum (I installed pipe insulation around the boot which goes fairly unnoticeable). I also like being able to throw stuff into the bed from the cab. The bad news was the breezer window though good in theory is not a good fit on my 2003 Tundra. The window replacement does not fit after installation. Overall I like what I've done but may have to restore it to stock prior to resale. Meanwhile, it sure is a lot easier to see out the back even with my limo tint. Check out my photo gallery.[IMG]
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Yes it was dissapointing. I bought the breezer from RK Sport and they did tell me that it was not recommended for access cab but they didn't know why. First of all, if the window did fit well, it would still require you to remove the rear seat in order to fit the window in. The problem that I have with it is that it fits super tight so that if I clamped it down it would probably break. I haven't looked into it that much but I think I can probably get it to work if I trimmed the rubber that the window sits against. Another project for another day. I bought my breezer with a boot clip. This is a track around the outside of the window frame that you put the accordian rubber in with the other side of the accordian rubber going into the track for the cap window. I have absolutely no leaking! The pipe insulation seems to fit in place and stay there. I used a little 2 way tape in a few places. Hope this helps.


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GoSmurf,
You are just the guy I've been looking for, I guess no one else has a breezer yet.
Are you saying that once you installed the frame, the window would not fit into it? That must be pretty disapointing! Does it just not fit tight, or wont stay in at all? How does the boot attach to the cab? does it leak?I am planning to do a similar thing with my truck, and would appreciate any updates or advice. I like th Idea about the pipe insulation, as long as my dogs dont get it! Maybe Ill glue it down somehow. Already ordered the Breezer, still looking for a pre-owned cap for my 2000 reg. cab.

How do you like your Cap?
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BED MOD'S: ARE Z Series cap, Bedrug, electric locking tailgate & back window, Pass through w/o back window, cargo net.
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Default Re: Rubber Boot for Cap?

My truck guru friend says to use second skin protector clear plastic tape to protect the paint from the boot rubbing on it. I'm going to do that when I finally decide on my shell.
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I got a Z series camper shell by ARE installed last week on my '06 access cab Tundra. The compression boot does not touch my paint anywhere. Yea! They did a great job on the install and it looks great.
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I got a Z series camper shell by ARE installed last week on my '06 access cab Tundra. The compression boot does not touch my paint anywhere. Yea! They did a great job on the install and it looks great.

I have a 02 tundra with a z series camper shell thinking about the boot for my audio setup. I have a bicycle tube around the slider window, has a good seal but not enough sound would like to pull the back window. What you think.
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