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Old 02-25-2002, 05:48 AM
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Default Chipped Paint

I have several places on my truck where the paint is chipped. There are no dents, just missing paint. Anyone know of a good method of touching up the paint. I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it.
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djack, Check out this approach - from autopia.com Paint Chip Repair by David W. Bynon
You’d be hard pressed to find a car on the road that does not have paint chips and parking lot scratches. While good detailing practices can’t prevent nicks and scratches, repairing them will restore your car’s “like new” appearance. In this article, I discuss the methods I’ve used for years to repair chips and minor scratches.

What’s Possible, What Isn’t
Touching up small nicks and scratches is well within the skill of most do-it-yourself car enthusiasts. Some nicks can be quickly repaired with a small dab of touch-up paint, while others will require more time, effort and skill. It’s important to know what you should and shouldn’t tackle based on your knowledge of paint and tools.
By far the easiest colors to repair are black and white. Black and white are very forgiving on shade variations. Conversely, metallic paints (those with metal flakes) can be quite difficult to match perfectly.
Before you get started repairing nicks and scratches, you should know what to expect. Small nicks are easy to repair by filling the nick with paint, leveling the filled area, and buffing the repair area to blend and restore luster. Repairing small scratches, from a key or shopping cart, is similar, but more time consuming. Fixing a ding (a small dent which may or may not have a nick out of the paint) is not commonly possible by the do-it-yourselfer.

Here are some other things you should know:
If you know your car’s factory paint code, you can purchase an exact color match touch-up paint from your local dealer. If you don’t know the factory paint code, look in your owner’s manual for the location of the code, or ask your dealer. If you have a late model car, chances are you will find a color match at your local auto parts store. Use a small artist’s paint brush (#2 is ideal) or a round, wooden toothpick to apply the touch-up paint, not the fat brush included with the bottle of touch-up paint. Always test the touch-up paint for color match in an inconspicuous area. The area to be repaired must be perfectly clean and free of wax, rust and oils. Don’t attempt a touch-up if the temperature is below 60 degrees F. Here’s what you need to properly repair nicks and scratches:
Color matched touch-up paint Automotive or metal primer Citric acid based cleaner like P21S Total Auto Wash
Prep solvent (Prepsol) or denatured alcohol
Foam swabs (from electronics supply) or pop swabs containing alcohol
Meguiar’s Unigrit Sanding Block and 600 grit wet & dry sand paper
Medium grit hand rubbing compound
#2 Artist’s paint brush and round toothpicks (wood)
Cotton terrycloth towels
New Pencils with unused erasers
Rubber cement
Plastic cups
Blue masking tape (easy release type)
Large diameter paper hole punch (hand type)

Preparation Process Before applying paint, you must prepare the chip to accept paint. Although paint may adhere for a while to a chip with rust, dirt or oil, eventually the repair will fail. The preparation process begins the day before you repair the paint chips and scratches.

The afternoon before starting your chip repairs, wash your car. After washing with your normal car wash, spray the areas you plan to repair with P21S Total Auto Wash, allow to sit for a minute, then scrub well with your sponge. P21S Total Auto Wash will remove all wax and oil from your paint. Dry your car thoroughly and put it away for the night.

After washing your car, make up several sanding pencils. Use a hole punch to punch out a few dots from the 600 grit wet and dry paper. Apply the sandpaper dots to the end of your pencil eraser with rubber cement. Allow them to dry over night. You will use the sanding pencils to scuff-up and clean out nicks.

To make a chip ready for touch-up paint, you must make sure it does not have loose edges, clean it and sand it. I use a toothpick to check the edges of a chip. If loose or lifted, I use the toothpick to knock off the loose paint. To clean, I like to use denatured alcohol or Prepsol and a foam swab. I pour a little bit into a plastic cup and use a foam swab to clean the chip and surrounding area. Next, I use a sanding pencil to cleanout the chip and rough-up the edges. Simply dip the sanding pencil into a cup of clean water, dab a few drops of water on the chip, and gently rotate the sanding pencil over the chip. Keep the area you sand as small as possible. Rotating the sanding pencil back and forth in your fingers 8-10 times should be enough to do the job. If the chip has exposed bare metal, or if you can see rust forming, use the edge of the pencil erasure to remove the rust. When finish sanding the chip, dry it with a terrycloth towel and clean it again with Prepsol and a foam swab.

The Touch-Up
Once the damaged areas are cleaned and prepared, you can begin the touch-up itself. If a chip exposed bare metal, you must primer the chip before the color touch-up. After mixing thoroughly, pour or spray a small amount of your primer into a plastic cup. Next, use a clean toothpick to apply the primer. I do this by dipping just the tip (2-3 mm) of the toothpick unto the primer. If I get a blob, I wipe it back. Next, I touch the tip of the toothpick to the center of the chip and allow the paint to flow off of the toothpick into the chip. You will be amazed how well the capillary action works. If you prefer, you can use the #2 artist’s brush. Do not allow the primer to overflow the sides of the chip. Allow the primer to dry for 2-3 hours. You can speed dry the primer with a hair dryer after allowing it to air dry for one hour. Simply wave the hair dryer 3-4 inches over the primered chip for 30-40 seconds. Do not touch the chips with your hands, as the oils from your skin will prevent the color coat from adhering.

Now, mix your color-matched paint thoroughly and pour a small amount into a clean plastic cup. As with the primer, use a clean toothpick or #2 artist’s brush to apply the color coat. Touch the toothpick or brush to the center of the chip and allow capillary action to pull the paint into the chip. Apply a small dab at a time and allow it to dry for 2-3 hours. You must repeat this process several times, so don’t try to fill the chip in one pass. Apply several thin layers, and you will get much better results.

The color touch-up process is complete when you have applied enough coats to slightly overfill the chip onto the roughed up area surrounding the chip. Once you’ve filled the chip, allow it to dry for another 24 to 48 hours. The longer the better.

I’m often asked if it’s necessary to apply a clear coat over chip repairs. I don’t think it’s necessary of adds any noticeable difference. If you get the proper touch-up paint from your dealer, it will match without using a clearcoat. However, if you’re a purist in pursuit of perfection, substitute a clearcoat for the last 2-3 coats.

Level and Buff
Until you level or mill the paint repair down to the same plane as the original paint, all you’ll have is an ugly looking blob. This is easily done using the Meguiar’s Unigrit Sanding Block, which helps remove sags, runs and other isolated defects with surgical precision. Don’t forget to soak it over night before use as the directions indicate.

To level your paint chips, use you finger to put a small dab of car shampoo on the chip repair for lubrication. Next, use the Unigrit Sanding Block to mill the high spot off of the chip repair. I always pull the sanding block towards me. Never rub it back and forth or in a circle. When the block dries out, dip it into your bucket of water again. Keep the area well lubricated with water and shampoo. The sanding block will dull the paint. Don’t fear, as your polish will easily restore the luster. When the surface looks level, dry it with a clean towel and inspect with your finger tips. If you can feel a high spot, it needs more work.

The final step is to buff out the repair with a good hand polish. I like to use Eagle One Scratch Remover (a medium grit compound) followed by Meguiar’s Hand Polish. Apply the compound or polish to a clean terrycloth towel or applicator pad, rub into the paint area using a short back and forth motion (not in circles), then buff out with a clean terrycloth towel.

Tada! The blemish is gone.
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nhparrot, Thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for.
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Angry CHIPPING PAINT?

I've seen this problem posted before. My question is has Toyota taken responsibility for the bad paint on the Tundra.

I've got quite a few chips on my truck already. This is not supposed to happen.

I even got rust on one of the doors.

AAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That drives me crazy!
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Unhappy Chipping Paint

I hear what you are saying. I currently have about six or seven chipped spots on the front of the truck. They are probably from the freeway, but I don't think they should be there. I Also had rust spots in the bed before I put the Rhino Liner in. Anyone have a good method to fix these real good?
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Default hmmmm..

Maybe I have the wrong concept of a new vehicle. But shouldn't this not happen! Shouldn't Toyota be responsible for quality. And if it does shouldn't it happen like after the 3yr warranty.

Look i love my Toyo, don't get me wrong. But somehow the idea of spending $500-$2,500 on a new paint job in about 1-1.5yrs is not appealing.

I don't have that kinda cash. I'm using it to make my payments. Look 1,2 chips i can live with but 3,4,5,6 and no tolerance to fools and thier swinging doors!

This is not what I was looking for! Maybe Toyota is taking too many cost cutting ideas from GM. Which is the competition (even though they work together).

The main reason that I moved to Toyota was because of quality and reliability. Quality as far as the paint goes is not there. Even my old Ford didn't chip.

Yeah it had dents and all but no chipping & I'm talking 1990.
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After 1 day of driving my new 2002 white Tundra, and within the first 100 miles, I noticed a two big chips on the edges of hood and front-left quarter panel ... appears to be from the same rock since they were side-by-side

I didn't rememer hearing a big bang. I was really irritated to say the least.
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I agree, the chips are driving me crazy. Thats why after 1.5 years I finally got the Toyota bug deflector. It's nice and solid, but doesn't do much to deflect rocks from my front door pillars or windshield(don't even get me started). That's why I want to get the clear plastic that covers the front(forget the name, have seen some links on this site). And thank god for my insurance, FREE Windshield replacement, this will come in VERY handy .
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After 1 day of driving my new 2002 white Tundra, and within the first 100 miles, I noticed a two big chips on the edges of hood and front-left quarter panel ... appears to be from the same rock since they were side-by-side

I didn't rememer hearing a big bang. I was really irritated to say the least.
DEJA VU!!! Same thing happened to me on my 2002 and that was also within the first 100 miles, in the same area you are talking about. Needless to say around 150 miles, a toyota bug deflector went on!

But the sad part is a WEEK (no not a month or even weeks, but a week) later after I got it fixed, some person set something metalic and scratched the entire area up real good. I still have them scratches to this day and they are so deep that it does need ANOTHER re-paint. I ain't spending another $600 to get it fixed, screw that.
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Let's face it. The Tundra got a cheap paint job. The car wash has scratched mine clean to the metal in some places. I never knew paint could be so thin!!
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With all the talk about chipped paint, I guess I will be looking at getting a bra for my Tundra or that Xpel stuff.
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Trust me, if I ever find the person that did it, he's a dead man walking!
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Mohamed

I feel and hear your pain and frustration
I'm piss my self after reading about the pain chipping and the scratches.
It happen to mine too. My 2000 tunder gray, driver side hood.
Some sob scratch it. I figure it was someone who hated "jap" car being that its toyota and all. man when i first saw it my heart just sank, i mean i love my truck and its my first ever after college.
Thats why now my interior gots the mini cam. The one that feeds live images thru via the web. not abad investment.
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I have a 2000 Tundra and have gotten about a 1/2 dozen chips too. The worst ones are to the left of my grille and one on the front roof of the truck, right above the windshield. Both of those chips came from rocks i heard hitting my truck on the freeway.

I talked to people at a couple different detail shops and both of them said Toyota uses really good paint compared to American-made cars.

Another guy said that there are really tough restrictions on the type of paint that can be used in the U.S. The guy i talked to is involved in restoring older cars, and he said he gets all his paint from Mexico, even though it's illegal.
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Angry Man!!!

Forget where the paint comes from or repainting your truck!

Like I said before and am sure others agree with we are/or did pay good money for these trucks. and now i'm getting a little short changed and pissed.

I read on the toyota site where our trucks have some type of special paint/chemical that turns any chipped areas white to protect against rust until you fix it.

What!!! It's a new truck & I'm supposed to fix that! Gimme a break.

Oh well I guess nobody has gotten toyota to admit the sorry job they did painting our trucks!

I'm getting ulcers from all the chipping and door jabbing my truck is taking. AND IT'S BLACK TOO!!!!!
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