A Few Questions (bedliner & bed cover)

[Gunthaa]

Just got a 04 double cab and wanted to know what is the best spray-in bedliner. Also, those lids that you put on the truck beds, how much do those cost, the ones that lock. And our boat trailer has a 3 out 1 in light thing, and this tundra has a round one, do we need to replace the trailer wireing or is there some sort of adapter.

Thanks

[rgreed]

The top for the box is called a tonneau cover. Out of respect for the sponsors of the board I'm not going to suggest any retailer but the prices are all over the map. My wife has an A.R.E. that was painted to match the truck and she really likes it. There are many styles so I would do some research before I buy. The trailer plug you need is probably a 4-way flat and any auto parts store should have an adapter for your double cab wiring.

[anmrivera]

Originally Posted by Gunthaa

Just got a 04 double cab and wanted to know what is the best spray-in bedliner. Also, those lids that you put on the truck beds, how much do those cost, the ones that lock. And our boat trailer has a 3 out 1 in light thing, and this tundra has a round one, do we need to replace the trailer wireing or is there some sort of adapter.

Thanks

It all depends on what you will use your truck for. If you will be using the bed frequently to haul overisized items you may look at a soft tonnou cover that rolls up easily. The hard tops are heaveir and need an area to store them when off the truck. Like mentioned before you can buy a 7-4 converted from just about any place. Got mne for $7 at "Wally'sWorld" As far as spray in bed liners, there are numerous treads on this topic. It all comes down to personal preffrence. I went with Line-X and have never regretted it! The line-X is not a "Cottage Cheese" texured as Rhino Liner and that was my selling point. You can color match just about all of them and the application is different for them too! Do your research here and make your choice based off of everyones preferences.

[123Gone]

I think LINE-X is the best, but I have to admit that my opinion is biased. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have regarding spray-on liners, I have researched most of the brands and I am familiar with their chemistry and physical properties.

[tuesdayd]

The best spray in is, I think, a matter of preference. After hours of research (mostly on this site) I still couldn't decide between Line-X and Rhino so I figured I'd visit each one and evaluate their shop. I ended up liking the Line-X shop a little better so I went with them. Based on all my reading though, I don't think I'd have been disappointed with the Rhino. Go check out a couple of shops and see what you think.

You mentioned a locking cover so I think your best bet would be with a hard fiberglass top as opposed to a soft cover that can be cut open, but they're kinda pricey. Based on a friend's recommendation, I think I may get an A.R.E. (hard top), but for the same cost I can get a Unichip!! Or some headers!! As you can see, the cover's not high on the list of priorities.

Finally, as previously mentioned, you should be able to find an adapter for your trailer.

Enjoy your Tundra, and there's tons of info here which is a good thing. But there are so many mod ideas that I'll never be finished - not such a good thing, but it keeps me busy.

[xedge]

The 4 to 7 pin adapter was given to me by Toyota as part of the factory tow package. I've read though that depending on your area, you may or may not "receive" it. You can always ask. I did end up buying a second one for about $7 "just in case". The setup doesn't seem that secure and I've had friends lose theirs on the road. I actually use a small bungee to keep it in place. Good connection=trailer lights working!!

I didn't opt for a spray-in but you'll get a wealth of info on the products here. I did see a club member who had his door sills and front bumper line-x'd and it looked awesome. Maybe sometime I'll do that mod in the future.

I have a roll up tonneau. Works well, keeps the rain out, gives me easy access to the bed when toting larger items, no snaps so I don't have to fight it in the cold climate & it fit my budget. The harder roll types certainly give you more security. I've read many good things here about them.

If I really had an unlimited money supply, I would like the snugtop camper shell. Maybe some day. Have fun modding your tundra!!

[TERRYJMATTHEW]

Line-x Is An Excellent Product As Far As Spray-in Liners Go. If You Have An Auto-trim Design In Your Area, I Would Check In With Them And Take A Look At The Speedliner. I Have Been Happy W/ Mine So Far...

[TundrastruckDave]

Hey Gunthaa,

I'm also in the process of making this same decision (at present) on "spray-in liners" for my '04 D/C. I'm lucky though... in the fact... that I have two friends in the business. Unfortunately, both use a different product... but... both are good spray-in liners. One is Speedliner and the other is Line-X. After listening to their opinions and researching each (for myself), here's what I've found.

Speedliner http://www.speedliner.com/usa/main.html
Here's a link for how Speedliner is applied: http://speedliner.com/usa/installation.html
This liner is the stronger of the two (BY FAR) with a 4,200-4,800 psi tensile strength. It also offers a stronger tear strength at 865 lbs/in. To further improve Speedliner's tear strength, a high-tech fiber of Kevlar can also be added. In stark comparison... the tensile strength for Line-X is only 1,800 psi and its' tear strength is only 304 lbs/in.! Speedliner offers this info right on their website, while Line-X does not. (I had to make 2 seperate calls to just get this info over the phone!) It kinda makes me wonder if the reason Line-X won't publish this info is... because... they "know" their product isn't quite as strong as Speedliner? Anyway, Speedliner is also sprayed on cold and therefore takes a little longer in application time, but from seeing the product first hand, it's also sprayed on "thicker" than what Line-X is... and that... could also have some bearing as to "why" this product is also stronger. Also, Speedliner has a much "smoother" texture than the Line-X product. I'm sure the first thing someone would say to that is... if you're hauling anything... it'll slide all over the bed. Well... IT DOESN'T! It'll also make it easier on your dog's "too-sees" when you take him/her for a ride. Of course that only applies "if" you have a dog and allow him/her to ride in the bed. Finally, one feature that I DO like with Speedliner is that its' product will not fade. I'm sure you've seen some liners that turn a chalky white after a few years of use. Speedliner says (as does my friend), that won't happen with their product. It's a good product... but... so is...

Line-X 2 websites: http://www.goline-x.com/prodinfo.asp http://www2.line-x.com/
Here's a link for how Line-X is applied: http://www.goline-x.com/process.asp
This liner is more widely known and I can honestly say, I see more of this product on the road than I do Speedliner. I think the initial cost and the shorter application time have a lot to do with Line-X being more frequently used by "John Q. Public". Line-X doesn't offer any info about its tensile or tear strengths on its' website, and... only... after 2 phone calls was I able to get that info by phone. The tensile strength for Line-X is 1,800 psi and its' tear strength is 304 lbs/in.! Again... it's quite a bit "less" than Speedliner! Otherwise, Line-X is sprayed on hot, and the product therefore "cures" much faster. It's also sprayed on much "thinner" than Speedliner. The applications I've seen (first hand) are just barely a 1/4" in thickness! The texture of this product also has a little more "tooth" and offers a rougher feel on the surface. I can't say whether there "is" or "is not" an advantage to this, so I'll let you form your own opinion on that.

I can however, offer you this bit of info on a more "biased" level. The friend who uses Speedliner bought into the franchise...primarily... for using the product on his "fleet" of pick-up trucks, 18-wheelers, and the walking platforms of his cranes. He only does the Speedliner bed applications as a side business and makes just about $25 off each application. He's VERY meticulous with his business (in general) and heavily researched spray-in liners before deciding to go with Speedliner. If you’re interested... here's his web site: http://www.edwardsinc.com/
On the other hand, my other friend (who uses the Line-X product)... it's basically... his "livelihood". He has a thriving Line-X franchise, here in the local area, and does a great job applying the product.

Both liners offer a lifetime warranty, so that shouldn't be a deciding factor. The only real significant differences are in the "tensile" and "tear" strengths for each. BTW... these figures ARE ACCURATE! That said... you just have to ask yourself... will you ever reach the "failure point" for the tensile and/or tear strengths of each... I knida doubt it. I guess what it boils down to then... is what looks best... to you... and... what you "think/feel" are the better of the two liners. At least that's what I think it's going to come down to for me. Luckily... neither of my friends actually "know" each other, so whomever I chose, I won't make the other mad.

In any case, I hope this info helps...

[turnipgreen]

Based on the above post I check for a local Speedliner dealer. I called just to see how much it would be, and was quoted $310 which was a surprise, I thought it was supposed to be more. Locally Line-X quoted me like $380.

They said they only had a 6 year warranty, covers everything no matter if I do it or if it is defects. Doesn't Line-x offer lifetime?

Ron

[rand436]

Dave,

I am in Raleigh. I will pick up my 04 DC in a week and I want to get it sprayed ASAP. Where is your dealer for Speedliner?

-rand

[TundrastruckDave]

Originally Posted by turnipgreen

They said they only had a 6 year warranty, covers everything no matter if I do it or if it is defects. Doesn't Line-x offer lifetime?

Ron

Hey Ron,

According to the Line-X website, they do offer one... a limited lifetime warranty.

http://www2.line-x.com/
Look right under the black bar at the top of the webpage and you'll see several blue "word" links. One of them says "Nationwide Warranty"... click on that... that's it. Whoever the "screwball" is that told you 6 years... is just wrong! You should call him back and tell him that the COMPANY website say "NATIONWIDE LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY" and see what his dumba$$ says then...

BTW: That's a HELL-OF-A good price for the Speedliner product! Even though I have a friend with a franchise, he's STILL telling me $325! My friend who has the Line-X franchise, is telling me an even $300. That's pretty screwed up...

Dave

[nferra2]

How much should i expect to pay for Line-X? I was quoted $400, with the $20 already taken off for the online coupon. Thats seems kind of steep to me.

Nick

[turnipgreen]

Sorry Dave. My post wasn't clear. The Speedliner shop only had a 6 year warranty, but it covers everything no matter what happens for 6 years. The Line-X has a limited lifetime warranty, but so far I haven't been able to look at the specifics to see how limited it is.

But 310 vs 430 is a big difference, especially if you guys tell me Speedliner is good stuff.

Ron

Originally Posted by TundrastruckDave

Hey Ron,

According to the Line-X website, they do offer one... a limited lifetime warranty.

http://www2.line-x.com/
Look right under the black bar at the top of the webpage and you'll see several blue "word" links. One of them says "Nationwide Warranty"... click on that... that's it. Whoever the "screwball" is that told you 6 years... is just wrong! You should call him back and tell him that the COMPANY website say "NATIONWIDE LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY" and see what his dumba$$ says then...

BTW: That's a HELL-OF-A good price for the Speedliner product! Even though I have a friend with a franchise, he's STILL telling me $325! My friend who has the Line-X franchise, is telling me an even $300. That's pretty screwed up...

Dave

[TundrastruckDave]

Originally Posted by rand436

Dave,

I am in Raleigh. I will pick up my 04 DC in a week and I want to get it sprayed ASAP. Where is your dealer for Speedliner?

-rand

Hey rand,

He's in Spring Hope, which I "think" is in Nash County. Probably about 30 minutes tops... from the east side of Raleigh... or the Wendell side of Raleigh.

Here's his company's website. http://www.edwardsinc.com/

He doesn't advertise as a dealer for Speedliner since he bought into the franchise primarily for his own business use. But if you're interested... I'll e-mail him and find out if he'll do the same for you, which I feel sure he will.

Dave

BTW: I've also sent you a PM... check it out when you get a chance...

[TundrastruckDave]

Originally Posted by turnipgreen

Sorry Dave. My post wasn't clear. The Speedliner shop only had a 6 year warranty, but it covers everything no matter what happens for 6 years. The Line-X has a limited lifetime warranty, but so far I haven't been able to look at the specifics to see how limited it is.

But 310 vs 430 is a big difference, especially if you guys tell me Speedliner is good stuff.

Ron

Hey Ron,

Hmmm... I'll have to check into that! When I called Speedliner... using the number provided on their website... the guy told me... lifetime warranty. Although he did say... that "most" dealers offer a lifetime warranty. Not quite sure what that might of ment? Either way... I'll check with my friend and see what he says... then I'll post his response.

Unfortunately, the dealer you spoke to might... kinda... be "out for blood" thinking with a 6 year warranty, he'll get a lot more repeat business. I hope that's not the case, but it sounds like that "might" just be the case!

I'll let you know what I find out...

Dave