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Old 02-12-2005, 05:12 PM
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Hey there. Whenever I look at my truck's box in the rear view mirrors while driving over bumps and what not, I notice it that it moves around alot. It doesn't move together with the cab of the truck. My old 99 didn't do this. It doesn't feel loose. The only thing I can think of is the new style box is mounted differently then the previous gen. Tacoma was. Either that or the frame is pretty free to twist and give. I wonder how much this has to do with the phantom noise we've all heard when it's dry and cold out. Please have a look and comment if you can. Thanks. My truck is an Access Cab TRD with the 6 foot box.

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Any p/u will have "some" independent movement of each other. Can't say if the 05's are more excessive or not, but I'll check mine out the next couple trips.
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Hey there. Whenever I look at my truck's box in the rear view mirrors while driving over bumps and what not, I notice it that it moves around alot. It doesn't move together with the cab of the truck. My old 99 didn't do this. It doesn't feel loose. The only thing I can think of is the new style box is mounted differently then the previous gen. Tacoma was. Either that or the frame is pretty free to twist and give. I wonder how much this has to do with the phantom noise we've all heard when it's dry and cold out. Please have a look and comment if you can. Thanks. My truck is an Access Cab TRD with the 6 foot box.

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I have noticed this in all the trucks Ive owned. Actually i believe its the cab that is moving more than the box. they are independently attached to the frame so they will flex on their mounts. Also might be too much play in those noisy cab mounts!
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Thanks for responses guys. As I mentioned above, my 99 never moved liked this. It's really bizarre.

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I've noticed the movement on my 05 D/C Longbed. Also noticed it on most all trucks I have driven.
I am looking for wheelwell to wheelwell running boards and worry about that very thing. Really feel I may need two separate pieces, one for the cab length and the other for the step box.
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I've noticed the movement on my 05 D/C Longbed. Also noticed it on most all trucks I have driven.
I am looking for wheelwell to wheelwell running boards and worry about that very thing. Really feel I may need two separate pieces, one for the cab length and the other for the step box.

Very good point, there's no way that a one piece running board could take that kind of flexing. They would get twisted to rat sh$t in no time. We have the big auto show coming to town next week, I hope to drill some Toyota folks on a few issues.

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To the best of my knowledge (FWIW), the steps/boards/whatever attach to the bottom of the cab via small predrilled holes. So, I would doubt that the boards would even care if the bed moved separately. BUT, the bed movement is really minimal, I don't think it would be as much as you think, even when it looks twisted up (parked on weird ground...)

Certainly there would be enough room between the boards and the bed to prevent rubbing.

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To the best of my knowledge (FWIW), the steps/boards/whatever attach to the bottom of the cab via small predrilled holes. So, I would doubt that the boards would even care if the bed moved separately. BUT, the bed movement is really minimal, I don't think it would be as much as you think, even when it looks twisted up (parked on weird ground...)

Certainly there would be enough room between the boards and the bed to prevent rubbing.

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A full length running board would twist like a pretzel if subject to torsional twisting like that. If it's nickel plated, you would see the plating coming off where it bolts to the frame. A .25" movement would be all it takes. The bed and cab on my truck can move seemingly .5 inch up and down from one another. Unless the running boards or tube steps were mounted with 4 1/2" bolts on each end and 1/8" wall thickness minimum, it's not going to work.

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Tiggyboot-

I certainly get your point about the twisting. I only mean that all of the boards/steps I've seen attach ONLY to the cab, which doesn't twist inside it's own length. (Could you imagine if it did? Door seals, etc...) Yes, it may in relation to the bed, but if there is any space between the bed and the boards, I *think* you'd be OK.

If the Long boards attach to the frame or to the bed, you would be right. Please send me a link of some attached to either the frame or the bed. Would be news to me.
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The box on my '05 moves the same ammount as my '01 did. Every truck I've driven the box has moved whn going over rough roads or bumps.
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So, I saw a big chevy truck with wheel to wheel running boards, and they came in two sections, the cab portion, and the bed portion. So, certainly that was to prevent twist.

All the kits for tubes/boards I've been interested say "no drill", since they attach to the pre-threaded holes on the cab body. But, I guess some do attach to the frame then.

I'd think the "no drill" marketed ones would be OK, since the cabs the only place with the holes?...

Frame mounted ones would be trouble maybe.
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What you all are forgetting is that the running boards do attach to the frame not the body. So it doesnt matter if the cab or the bed move. The frame is not going to twist. At least not easily.

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What you all are forgetting is that the running boards do attach to the frame not the body. So it doesnt matter if the cab or the bed move. The frame is not going to twist. At least not easily.

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The Toyota ones attach to the body. I know, I just put them on. The westin ones are "no drill", and according to westin, attach to the same holes in the body.

Some, I bet, attach to the frame.

The bed is on the frame, and the cab is on the frame. If the bed moves in relation to the cab, the frame is twisting. This is normal, and the frame is engineered to take it just fine.

I once saw a friends F350 Crew Cab parked in a weird spot. Front wheels on a right slope, rears on a left. The bed was tilted about 10-15 degrees- I thought it was broken. He said normal.

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I had a 1999 extended cab prerunner with chrome smitty tube steps. They mounted directly to the frame (just in front of drivers door and just behind extended cab). I have seen the bed at some seriously wacked angles in relation to the cab and nothing ever happened to the bars.
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