I was wondering how this new combo of truck and camper are doing, I have a 2007 tundra sr5 double cab5.7l and also in a dilemna I was told by two truck camper dealers I can easily carry a travel lite 890rx dry weight 2100. I also spoke with a toyo guy who also said if i put timbrens and the tork lift system I shouldn't have any problems. But as i keep reading i'm backing off and input would be great.
It says that your camper and everything in it and should not exceed the Cargo Weight Rating (CWR) which is:
Maximum weight of cargo that can be installed on the bed including:
•Cargo (i.e. camper), equipment, etc. placed in the bed.
•= GVWR – curb weight – installed optional equipment weight - weight of passengers
•Never exceed rear GAWR.
This means that hauling any camper much over 600 pounds would exceed the recommended GVWR.
Questions you might ask camper sales people before you buy:
If you are in an accident and have exceeded these manufacturer recommendations - will your insurance company still cover you?
Would the police cite you for exceeding the recommended GVWR if you were in an accident?
Would Toyota honor your warranty if you have damaged the truck and exceeded the GVWR?
New to Tundra Solutions, so please forgive if I'm doing this wrong. I posted the following in the welcome thread but thought I should probably be more specific and ask these questions here:
I still have my 1gen 2000 Tundra (4wd, access cab) and am looking for help because we want to put a slide-in camper on, mostly for weekend use, no serious off-roading. i've been reading all about payload capacities and gross vehicle weight and access limits, so we're looking at relatively light-weight pop-up campers (around 1000 lbs. dry).
Two or three questions come to mind: Why is the prevailing advice to have tie-downs installed instead of using the tie-downs in the pickup bed? We're looking at a small Palomino B600 that was on a Tundra, and the owners say they used the built-in tie-downs with no problem.
Also, we have the TRD suspension and are wondering if we will need airbags and what a set of those (Firestone?) might cost installed.
Final dumb question: Since this camper is small enough to fit easily between the wheel wells, can we leave our bed liner in and put it on top of that, or add a truck mat?
We love the Tundra for its versatility/reliability and a great ride but wonder if the camper will be a bad idea. Don't really plan to sell the truck (very low mileage, good condition) but maybe a pop-up tent camper would be a better alternative.
I'm not sure about the Palomino but I do know Four Wheel makes a really nice pop-up truck camper whose weight is well within your truck's capacity. If your Access Cab is a long bed, you have some nice options for self containment with the FWC.
[ so we're looking at relatively light-weight pop-up campers (around 1000 lbs. dry).
I would say that since the dry weight of the camper you are considering is around 1000 poinds - by the time you get loaded with gear, fuel, passengers, etc. - you are going to be way over the payload capacity for your Tundra - which is way less than 1000 pounds - look at the 4 Wheel Camper models under 700 pounds to be safe - or a pull camper.
Here's a link to Outfitter's website. The guy in the photo lives in Alaska. He apparently bought the camper and a Tundra to haul it and drove it home from Colorado, where the camper was built. It's an Outfitter Apex 8.0, which is fully self contained (water, gray water, and black water tanks plus toilet, shower, sinks, refrigerator, etc.) Yes, he's overloaded. I think he may have air bags (a good idea anyway) and 'E' rated tires.
Many of the truck campers you see on the road overload their pickup trucks. I recently looked at replacing my 2007 Tundra with a Dodge 3/4 ton diesel. To my surprise, probably because of the diesel, the payload capacity of the 3/4 ton Dodge was not a very big gain over that of my Tundra. What you will find is that, if you want to haul a full size truck camper and not exceed your GVWR, you'd better be looking at a Ford F450. I've been researching this for months. I had occasion to weigh my truck a couple of weeks ago. (I had hauled a bunch of construction debris to the landfill.) Looking at the door sticker and doing some math, I found that my truck will haul 1,580 # with full fuel and my wife and myself on board. If I fill the rear three seats with 150 pound people, I can only haul 1,130 pounds.
That said, weight your truck with yourself and whoever else you'll be camping with in the seats and full fuel. Subtract that number from the GVWR on the door sticker. Then you'll have a pretty fair idea what you can haul without overloading.
Bear in mind, no after market add-on like airbags or add-a-leaf springs will increase your GVWR. That is a function of your truck's axle capacities. Airbags, upgraded shocks, and 'E' rated tires will only make you safer in an overload condition. Whether your insurance company feels otherwise........
Why is the prevailing advice to have tie-downs installed instead of using the tie-downs in the pickup bed? We're looking at a small Palomino B600 that was on a Tundra, and the owners say they used the built-in tie-downs with no problem.
With like Tork-lock system it makes for a solid connection point that ties the camper more directly to the chassis and helps reduce bed movement.
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Also, we have the TRD suspension and are wondering if we will need airbags and what a set of those (Firestone?) might cost installed.
Yes, even with TRD it would be best to install airbags. I've got a couple of bud's that we installed the Firestones on and I installed Air Lift on mine. <--- It was one of those no-drill installations.
Though both the Firestone and Air lift systems seem to work well and are comparable.
Cost wise If were guess $500/600....installed.
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Final dumb question: Since this camper is small enough to fit easily between the wheel wells, can we leave our bed liner in and put it on top of that, or add a truck mat?
Install a mat.... The non-slip surface of a rubber mat helps hold the camper in place and reduces the chances of it shifting within the bed of the truck.
Did you ever receive any information on the slide in camper for your Tundra. I have a 2000 Tundra and am interested in getting a slide in camper. I would appreciate any information you might have.
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