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This is a discussion thread titled "Early Bird Cold Weather Prep", within the Midwest forum, part of the News and Events category.
I realize this is barely September, but the holidays and cold weather will soon be upon you Middies, so I figured better early than "fashionably late"
I would like to gather some info together for the early birds who are interested in preparing their Toyo...for the winter. All suggestions/current equip/and "don't"s are welcome.
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Originally Posted by KLS
synthetic engine oil, 0W-30 Mobil 1 or imported German Castrol Syntec (not the U. S. stuff) if you can find it...syn 5W-30 will be OK
2) winter wiper blades with the rubber boot over the blade
3) long handle and short handle windshield ice scrapers and snow brush...use a flat file to true the scraping edge. The short scraper is for the inside.
4) windshield washer fluid good to -25F...dump the 0° stuff
5) chains...cable chains are OK
6) practice putting the chains on very tightly
7) warm winter gloves and something dry to kneel of lay on for installing the chains
8) flashlight
9) recheck the tire inflation after you get into the cold
10) couple of bottles of Heet in case you get fuel with water
11) 200-300# of sandbags in the bed above the axle, well secured so they don't move around in case you auger into a snowbank--and sleeping bags in case you're stuck waiting for a tow.
12) Amber sun glasses.
Please help me out and explain something. I have lived in Southern California my entire life and I'm in the dark a little bit about what to do when the temperature plummets below about 62 degrees...I freaked out when I read this:
"...long handle and short handle windshield ice scrapers and snow brush...use a flat file to true the scraping edge. The short scraper is for the inside."
Inside? WTF?
I thought that snow occured on the outside of a vehicle.
BTW, great idea Cubic to bring this post back to the top!
Imagine what would happen to that condensation on a bottle of your favorite brew if the temperature of that bottle was below freezing. That's what happens inside of a car. The moisture from people's breath and from the snow and slush they bring in on their feet collects on the inside of the windows and freezes.
The wife and I just got back from a trip to Alaska about a week ago. It was below freezing the morning we took a tour of Denali Park by bus. With 50 people on the bus, the inside of the windows frosted up so bad you couldn't see anything. Now picture this. A bunch of people scrapping the inside of the windows of a bus with their credit cards so they can look at a couple of moose.
I've lived in Minnesota and South Dakota my entire life, I have never scrapped the insides of my windows, even to me that is Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
dido, only had to scrape inside with one vehicle, but i foudn if you end up having to do that, make sure u are using the fresh air intake on the heater and not recircluate.. Rec seemed to keep the moisture inside, causing me to scrape. Always using the fresh air intake make the problem disapear.
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95% complete - Molly Grill, Color Matched Mirror Covers, Clear Turn Signal Lenses, Optima Red Top Battery,
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-A Good Coat Of Wax:
before the snow flies, helps with combating rust from salt/sand mix on roads.
-Winter Sytle Floor Mats
(the ones that have deep sides so they hold melted snow. Normal ones will jsut soak up the water, become saturated, and leak into the carpet
- Army style shovel.
The ones that collapse so it is easily stored away. If you ever plow into a snowbank, you will wish you had one to dig urself out with.
- Get a couple cans of Lock DE-ICER
and throw em in back/box. If you have ever washed your vehicle when it is -10 out, u know all too well that the locks can freeze up.
- Rubberized Undercoating:
I usually give the wheel wheels a new coat of rubberized undercoating every fall or two. Helps to keep rust down
- Amsoil MP40 metal protectant:
This stuff is awesome! Spray it on all the undercarridge nuts/bolts, and it leaves a solid wax-like coating on them. Keeps them from rusting up. Easier than removing them all and using anti-sieze
__________________ 2001 Salvaged Tundra SR5 2WD Access Cab:
95% complete - Molly Grill, Color Matched Mirror Covers, Clear Turn Signal Lenses, Optima Red Top Battery,
XS Power headers, Phillips Crystal Vision Bulbs, Detata Trax 18x9 wheels w/245-55-18 BFG GForce T/A's
Waiting to Install: Components for 3-4" front, 5-6" rear DIY lowering. (waiting on front struts)
I've lived in Minnesota and South Dakota my entire life, I have never scrapped the insides of my windows, even to me that is Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
In the fifties I can remember working for days in a service station installing Durkee Atwood rectangular clear plastic rubber gasketed devices on the inside of vehicle windows (early dual pane glass) so people could see out during the winter. A lot of cars and trucks built before the late fifties didn't take in much if any outside air to their heaters. Fresh air was brought in direct through a damper type device that would jut upward between the hood and windshield or through ducts from the grill area. It wasn't uncommon at all to see someone driving down the road scraping away at their inner windshield so they could see. A lot of defrosters in below zero temps would only clear several inches of a windshield just above the outlets. Some people even had little fans attached to the windshield molding (two piece windshields) between the driver and passenger windows hoping to blow additional warm air against the window. Sounds like the up hill walk both ways to school in a snowstorm doesn't it? That's another reason why I say someone who says they don't build them like they used to should be forced to drive them. And to think I moved back here after thirty five years in So Cal.
Larry
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If a combo of all these whizz bangs met their claims you'd have to syphon gas out of your tank every second day and sell the excess horsepower on the third????
The wife and I just got back from a trip to Alaska about a week ago. It was below freezing the morning we took a tour of Denali Park by bus. With 50 people on the bus, the inside of the windows frosted up so bad you couldn't see anything. Now picture this. A bunch of people scrapping the inside of the windows of a bus with their credit cards so they can look at a couple of moose.
We were up there in July - it was freakin' HOT then! The locals were really suffering with the heat wave. An awesome place to visit! We want to go back in the winter and see the "other side" of the story.
Hope that you enjoyed your trip as much as we did!
I realize this is barely September, but the holidays and cold weather will soon be upon you Middies, so I figured better early than "fashionably late"
I would like to gather some info together for the early birds who are interested in preparing their Toyo...for the winter. All suggestions/current equip/and "don't"s are welcome.
I would add cat litter for traction on ice and some food that will not rot such as granola bars or the sort. Remember to never leave your vehicle when stranded in the snow!
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We were up there in July - it was freakin' HOT then! The locals were really suffering with the heat wave. An awesome place to visit! We want to go back in the winter and see the "other side" of the story.
Hope that you enjoyed your trip as much as we did!
Steve
The trip was great. We took a cruise/tour. Six days on the water and six on land. The scenery was great. In Juneau we fished for halibut and my wife brought up a 30 pounder from 400 feet. It was so warm that day that the crew had shorts and t-shirts on.
In Denali park we saw about a dozen grizzly, moose, sheep, and a wolf working on what was left of a caribou.
We were up there in July - it was freakin' HOT then! The locals were really suffering with the heat wave. An awesome place to visit! We want to go back in the winter and see the "other side" of the story.
Hope that you enjoyed your trip as much as we did!
Steve
It is heaven on earth! I lived there for 4 years and plan on going back when ever Uncle Sam sends me back or I retire. You really need to take an extended vacation there to really be able to even scratch the serface of all you can do.
2005 Sienna LE 8 PAX, White, Full Curtain airbags, Tow prep package, VSC, Rear Disk brakes, rear audio, aftermarket entertainment center(will be bought soon)
I'm a proud Toyota Bigot!!!
Midwesterners checkout the midwest forum!Click here
Maybe we should start a new thread "Who's been to Alaska?"
Actually, I was stationed at Ft. Richardson near Anchorage for 3 months in the winter of 65. Left from Whittier, January 7, 1966, on a troop ship bound for Nam by way of Hawaii. Whittier is where we disembarked the cruise ship on our trip. The place has not changed in 39 years.
-A Good Coat Of Wax:
before the snow flies, helps with combating rust from salt/sand mix on roads.
-Winter Sytle Floor Mats
(the ones that have deep sides so they hold melted snow. Normal ones will jsut soak up the water, become saturated, and leak into the carpet
- Army style shovel.
The ones that collapse so it is easily stored away. If you ever plow into a snowbank, you will wish you had one to dig urself out with.
- Get a couple cans of Lock DE-ICER
and throw em in back/box. If you have ever washed your vehicle when it is -10 out, u know all too well that the locks can freeze up.
- Rubberized Undercoating:
I usually give the wheel wheels a new coat of rubberized undercoating every fall or two. Helps to keep rust down
- Amsoil MP40 metal protectant:
This stuff is awesome! Spray it on all the undercarridge nuts/bolts, and it leaves a solid wax-like coating on them. Keeps them from rusting up. Easier than removing them all and using anti-sieze
Damn man this guy knows what hes talking about- i agree with everything on his list. I would add only this- 3 candles,Bic lighter, and 2 warm blankets should be kept in a plastic bag inside the cab. I've personally seen folks, who by no fault of there own have been forced off the road due to ice or bad drivers or white out conditions, become stuck so far off the road that they are out of site of passing traffic. Some have been stuck in the vehicle for days, (picture what your ride looks like when its stuck in a median and a highway plow truck comes down through blasting off over a foot of ice and snow from the road surface down onto your roof (can you say invisible?)
If this was to happen and you could not get out of your car/truck (4+ ' of snow locks up them doors hard-n-fast in a low ditch or highway median) you could use the candles for heat as well as the blankets. Not to mention you may have to assist a fellow traveler who may be in need.
By the way i would bet anyone on this site that i saw more snow last year than anywhere else! Upstate New York !!! We saw 48" of snow fall in less than 3 hrs. in Parish N.Y. last year (1/2 hr. from my house). So needless to say, I know snow.
What puzzles me is these comments about tire chains/cables.?.?.?
In all my years I've never, Ever, seen snow or ice so bad that a 4x4 truck couldnt drive down the road and getcha home(once you got home getting in the driveway is a whole other matter! ).
Why on earth would you go through the BS of mounting chains on a over the road vehicle, what happens the next day when the roads are cleared? I have used chains on our tractors that snow blow or plow our driveways and parking lots but never seen it on street cars/trucks.
Studs YES - Chains Heck NO!