Hey Pimp, check on Pirate about the Michelins. Unless your buddy's rig is a good 12K# the Michelins aren't gonna do very well, he'll be running low single digits to get any decent sidewall flex. There was a guy who ran them in one of the TTC comps, he switched back to Interco with some interesting comments. The big Michs are really just good at being heavy tires for really heavy (Unimog, etc) rigs.
LTB, SX and Boggers all come big and ready to groove...
well he doesnt really care about how much flex he has, he just wants something thats big and can go through mud! hes not like me, he thinks bigger is better, im kinda* the opposite. but i will probably be bolting up his 44s on my truck soon to see what they look like. and i will try to upload that video of that tundra on 44s that i saw
sure is, and as soon as you think you are done with mods, you will need or want something else...
Usually when I am "Done" at that point I am wanting to sell it and start a new "Better" one. Like right now. I think I will be buying a new rig to build for the desert as soon as I find the "Right" (read cheap) one
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well he doesnt really care about how much flex he has, he just wants something thats big and can go through mud! hes not like me, he thinks bigger is better, im kinda* the opposite. but i will probably be bolting up his 44s on my truck soon to see what they look like. and i will try to upload that video of that tundra on 44s that i saw
Well tell him how he is going to have about 2K + lbs of just rubber to turn (they weigh about 500lbs a piece or more). That might change his decision to the 54" Boggers. Like Sean Said he can groove those. And get extra traction too to spin more mud.
The similiar Michelin Tires at my work are used on heavy rigs that weigh upwards of 130,000 lbs (80K counterweight) and then hoist up to 67,000 lbs. 60 ft in the air stacking 40 ft. containers 5 high. The tires flex a couple inches with all that weight (200,000+ lbs) on them. The fronts are doubled up on these strads (huge forklift with stretchable racks 20 ft - 40 ft to hoist containers) with single tires for the rear stearing only at longshore with tires that are about 3-4" thick in spots. Your friend really doesn't need all that kind of tire. It pretty much a waste. A good tractor tire would be better if he didn't go with the 54" Bogger.
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305/70/16 BFG Muds on 4" B/S Wheelers' Offroad Steel Rims
Donahoe Racing Coilovers (cranked 2.5")
Total Chaos Upper Control Arms and Rack Bushings.
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Well tell him how he is going to have about 2K + lbs of just rubber to turn (they weigh about 500lbs a piece or more). That might change his decision to the 54" Boggers. Like Sean Said he can groove those. And get extra traction too to spin more mud.
The similiar Michelin Tires at my work are used on heavy rigs that weigh upwards of 130,000 lbs (80K counterweight) and then hoist up to 67,000 lbs. 60 ft in the air stacking 40 ft. containers 5 high. The tires flex a couple inches with all that weight (200,000+ lbs) on them. The fronts are doubled up on these strads (huge forklift with stretchable racks 20 ft - 40 ft to hoist containers) with single tires for the rear stearing only at longshore with tires that are about 3-4" thick in spots. Your friend really doesn't need all that kind of tire. It pretty much a waste. A good tractor tire would be better if he didn't go with the 54" Bogger.
oh i have tried to talk him out of it, but hes one of those guys that has to be the biggest in town. He called me dumb for wanting to remove my body lift and wanting the marlin crawler dual case setup and a bit smaller tires......but there no changing his mine. hes kind of a pain actually...
oh i have tried to talk him out of it, but hes one of those guys that has to be the biggest in town. He called me dumb for wanting to remove my body lift and wanting the marlin crawler dual case setup and a bit smaller tires......but there no changing his mine. hes kind of a pain actually...
Well be buddy and tell him he's stupid. 54" Boggers ARE Bigger. They use a 20" rim, aren't there Rockwell Rims with the correct bolt pattern in a 20" size. If you're a buddy to your friend you should not be talking him out of it but telling him the facts about his decision making and mainly the dumb mistake of getting those Tires rated for a minimum of 30 Tons. Its pretty retarded to put them on. Why??? Most are only rated for up to 55mph. He's going to get stuck in all that mud turning those insanely heavy tires and will have to do extensive modding for hydraulic stearing to turn them in heavy mud with all the added suction. And he's not going to float but sink. Oh well if he does go with those 52-53 Michelins show me the pictures when hes snapping parts and getting stuck or hating the ride. It will be harsh. Only Really expensive Shocks like the King Coilovers, Saws 2.5" Shocks Doubled up would maybe make the ride a little less harsh and something valved correctly. And for the amount of lift hes going for/already got... he would be buying the ones that are $1000 - $1600 a piece. Below I like how the guy uses Triple Ranchos. And quad shock assist. He probably couldn't afford real shocks, and Hydraulic steering after spending it on the tires and axles.
Most likely Interco made the 54s just to gain some extra business. So help them out and mostly help your buddy make a better decision by sharing the facts on a time when he has an open mind.
Also heres a link to the michelin tires: I see they make a 147" tall tire too and it only uses a 53" rim.
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03' Access Cab Toyota Tundra V-8 4.7L, 4x4
305/70/16 BFG Muds on 4" B/S Wheelers' Offroad Steel Rims
Donahoe Racing Coilovers (cranked 2.5")
Total Chaos Upper Control Arms and Rack Bushings.
ORS upper mount shock hoop kit / FOX Racing 2.0" Reservoir 11" travel shocks w/ Deaver G57 10 pack rear springs
ARB Sahara Bumper with Fog Light Kit and KC SlimLites in Front
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Reason: LINKS to BIGGER TIRES!!!!
Good thing that 4Runner in the last thumbnail has a snorkle! If he needs that, he better have a periscope too!
OK, anyone else have some off-roading pics to post? We seemed to have derailed the intent of this thread.
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My daily driver - 2008 Vios 'S' sedan. Tinted windows in the rear, TRD anti-sway bar for the rear, 17" rims - Samurai SC02 Hyper Black. TRD lowering springs. Megan Racing header.
My favorite ride - a 2001 SR5 4x4. With - RCD 6" lift, JBA Titanium coated headers, JBA y-pipe, Unichip PnP, ARB rd-129 air locker (rear), Camburg UCA's, custom front Sway-A-Way coilovers, custom Sway-A-Way's with remote reservoirs and billet mounts for the hind-quarters, PolyPerformance limit straps with adjustable clevis's, Stubbs Welding rock sliders and custom front skid plate, 315/75/16 Toyo Open Country M/T's, on all 4 corners wrapped around 16x8 MB Motoring Blitz rims, cryo'd 4.88's set up by Inchworm Gear, Trenz billet grill upper, T-Rex billet grill lower, on board VI-AIR aircompressor and 3 gallon air tank, AutoMeter A-pillar pod with trans temp gauge (sending unit in the tranny pan), Long Tru-Cool LPD tranny cooler, 10" Flex-a-Lite tranny cooler fan w/thermostat, TRD billet oil filler cap, TRD air filter, TRD dual exhaust, and TRD add-a-leaf rear springs. Superlift TruSpeed Speedo Recalibrator. Warn Trans4mer system with a 9.5ti winch running Amsteel Blue winch line. Budbuilt traction bar. Staun tyre deflators. Spitz Lift portable crane. Marlin Crawler 1.5" wheel spacers. Our home away from home, 2004 Outback 26RS travel trailer with 15" MB Motoring Blitz rims to match the Tundra.