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FYI - I am currently working directly with Tom Allen, owner of PSC Motorsports (was the originator / owner AGR), to find an alternative to these silly little Toyota steering boxes we are all being forced to use now.

We are trying to come up with a good heavy duty alternative, such as an International Scout style box that mounts on the top/inside of the framerail - this would definitely alleviate a lot of tire clearance issues on my particular application !
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You would . Any idea of what Tundraon42's ran steering box wise? IIRC, it wasn't a Toyota box... and AGR made it.....or sold it....
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You would . Any idea of what Tundraon42's ran steering box wise? IIRC, it wasn't a Toyota box... and AGR made it.....or sold it....
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OK never mind my comment, i though it sat on the inside of the frame rails, but it sits out the outside AND it is huge.

(disregard the horrible drag link on both of these)
I know this guy has a box mounted on the inside, IIRC he said it was from a 70's F-150 or 250.
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Would there be enough room to fit the scout box on the inside of the frame? I know there has been some tacos that has mounted a scout box on the outside and closer to the cab where the pitman arm is forward. I think the major issue is clearence. You'll need to re-plumb the headers.

Other option is going with fully hydro steering set-up.
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I need to look at pitman arm/front differential cleanance amoung about 20 other possible clearance issues, but this may be the ticket. This Taco has got some serious suspension and body lift, which obviously helps with any clearance issues.......us guys with little Tundras don't have this luxury!




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Is that inside the rail or through the rail?

How about versions of through the rail, with any box? How well would it work? Sleeve the frame and run a bushing at both ends of the sleeve, I dunno, just an idea.

Why not full hydro?
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How about versions of through the rail, with any box? How well would it work? Sleeve the frame and run a bushing at both ends of the sleeve, I dunno, just an idea.

Why not full hydro?
It's inside the rail. I think I can make this style work out. I want to keep my rig as street friendly and legal as possible for long-range wheeling trips, fully hydraulic steering doesn't typically lend itself to either of those parameters. Although I know of one buggy that did extremely well on the street with full hydro, I still want to stick with an assist style set up.
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How about versions of through the rail, with any box? How well would it work? Sleeve the frame and run a bushing at both ends of the sleeve, I dunno, just an idea.

Why not full hydro?
For the steering box, running bushings is a not a great idea. There's a lot of tension when turning and the bushings would allow for "play" at the steering box. This could possibly end up damaging the box or the nuts/bolts would loosen.
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Other than the tire clearence issues with the steering box/pitman arm, what other factors are making decide to go with something different? Just wondering.
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Other than the tire clearence issues with the steering box/pitman arm, what other factors are making decide to go with something different? Just wondering.
That's reason enough for me, I've actually had to adjust out my steering stops now that I'm back on 37's - otherwise when the tire is fully stuffed on the driver's side and turned to full passenger side the tire will catch my 90 degree AN-6 ram fitting on the side of my box. Sucks losing my tight turning radius on an 18' rig that seems to always end up on really tight trails !
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That's reason enough for me, I've actually had to adjust out my steering stops now that I'm back on 37's - otherwise when the tire is fully stuffed on the driver's side and turned to full passenger side the tire will catch my 90 degree AN-6 ram fitting on the side of my box. Sucks losing my tight turning radius on an 18' rig that seems to always end up on really tight trails !
I wonder what my 38.7" michelins will hit at full stuff? I'm hoping with the skinner tire, the turning will be easier.
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I wonder what my 38.7" michelins will hit at full stuff? I'm hoping with the skinner tire, the turning will be easier.
Well....if not....I know where you will be able to find a Howe T/C 1300 PSI steering pump, ram, and ported Toyota steering box .....
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