k decided to get rid of the running boards on my truck. i think they kinda look like something an old person would put on there vehicle.
Im really really thinking about putting on rock sliders. i know you can buy them, but it seems to me that a set from Demello Offroad seems kinda expensive to me for some welded together tubing. i know there susposed to be prettymuch the best ones you can buy for the tundra. so i decided if one guy can make some, then i can make some. so i have been reading about and looking at pictures that other people have made. so i drew an idea of some that ill make myself on a 03 ac cab. im not 100% complete this is just a concept idea drawing of one that i could build. um i think the deminsions that i have would work but im not 100% sure, so if any of you have any ideas to add or things that i should change for sure please give me some ideas because ive never fabricated any type of rock armor for my truck.
-Quentin
so heres the drawing the other one is an idea of a mounting bracket bu
t i wanna make a bracket to mount on both sides of the lifting point frame part thingy
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Tundra with a little lift and 33's
Last edited by Quentin18; 11-18-2008 at 03:10 PM.
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The cross support "v's" are a bit overkill and probably uncessary. You should have them just be perpindicular to the long tube pieces. What ever you decide, be sure to use some grip tape. It's nomally used on steps and come in a roll . IIRC 2" or 3" wide. This is a perfect non-slip adhesive and will save your shins and it's cheap.
You gotta have a tail support or you will bend the tail in to the bedside.
I agree the crisscross braces are overkill. If you want that design, because it does look good, check on TTORA I think in the 1st-gen Taco section, there's a guy working on a similar design now. Maybe remove a couple, or another thought, make them thinner wall tubing...tho that's kinda risky on a part that can and often does act like a landing skid.
If you have a buddy who can weld, and an angle grinder, you can definitely build a good pair of sliders.
Our trucks use a C-channel frame, so no wraparound bracing like that. Frame supports will be strongest where there's a crossmember.
Use a piece of 1"x2" from tire to tire, clamped to the body pinch weld, to mark where you want them to start & end, and where you want frame supports. Works great.
Grab a T-square or whatever and pretty much blueprint the frame and the pinch weld profile, locations of crossmembers, how many rivets, seams in the frame, all that stuff. Bridge or avoid seams, support over crossmembers, and make cutouts around rivets.
The frame is weak and ideally could use support top to bottom...don't just weld to the C-channel or the legs will act like can openers.
One more thing, when your truck is armored and ready for a long trip it will weigh close to 6500#. Don't build these like fluffy little Tacoma sliders or they will break! Use 0.188 wall material.
ya i realized the cross sectionin support beams are a little overkill, woulndt a triangle be sronger than just doing vetical supports? or do u even think it would be possible in some way that i could build arch supports to make it stronger? ya i didnt realize c clamps wouldnt work untill today and yesterday when i had my truck on the lift doing my lift kit. so would u say bolt it on, from like top and bottom, or weild? or bolt on and tack weild key points on?
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Tundra with a little lift and 33's
Simple vertical supports are plenty strong. Matter of fact, they're stronger if you place them perpendicular to the ladder pieces, since any impact will be directly in line with the material.
Triangles aren't necessarily stronger, just more rigid, and the shear force on the outside of the slider just isn't enough to make rigidity an issue between the inner and outer ladder sections.
Either way you wanna do it is fine. Triangles or perpendicular, whatever, it's gonna be plenty strong either way, it really comes down to how you want it to look. The primary force on the slider is upward from the bottom, not so much sideways, so it's more important that you build strong supports to the frame than how you build the ladder sections.
Don't forget, most important thing, supports to the frame only go over or near a crossmember, except for the second one back from the front. All the others can go directly over or right next to a crossmember.
Bolt or weld is up to you. Just spread the load as much as possible.
Another thing I noticed on your supports, they are angled up. With the way the frame and body are set-up, this probably won't be possible. The sliders will have to come straight out. Here's what mine look like.
Mine are angled up...they hit the frame above the centerline, with a gusset underneath...2x2x0.188 tube welded to 6x0.25 plate (length is as long as they need to be), and identical sections of plate on the back sandwiching the frame except on the one massive crossmember under the cab. Just used huge washers for that, and six bolts.
Not hard if you have a grinder and a template. Otherwise it'll be easier to go straight in, and put a big gusset on the top. Whatever you do, you gotta spread the load or it'll act like a can opener on your frame...it's only about 0.120 material.
This was taken after my swap and right after the sliders were fabbed. Soon after, I got the DS made, the cross member notched for the DS and the sliders rattle canned with primer and black paint.