I read that earlier...it says there is no long term seizure condition. A seizure could be caused from severe dehydration as well as a high fever, in anyone...I guess he could have had a problem with his heart that lead to him, falling and hitting his head, then a seizure...maybe the seizure was a consequence of the intial problem...(I.E. falling, heart failure) not the intial problem/disorder itself?
Either way, I am sad for the family and am sure they will be grieving for a long time to come.
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I need a new word of the month people!
It was Xenu's fault! Yes, where is your Hubbard now, bitches?
NO sympathy from me. NONE. This is in the same category as homeopathy and anthroposophy.
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I just can imagine a parent with all thats available in modern medicine that they would turn their heads hoping for an alternative miracle.
Believe it, it happens. If nothing else, perhaps Jett Travolta's death will serve as a lesson to others who might be stupid enough to fall prey to pseudoscience, brainwashing, and cults...even the gilded ones.
It was Xenu's fault! Yes, where is your Hubbard now, bitches?
NO sympathy from me. NONE. This is in the same category as homeopathy and anthroposophy.
Believe it, it happens. If nothing else, perhaps Jett Travolta's death will serve as a lesson to others who might be stupid enough to fall prey to pseudoscience, brainwashing, and cults...even the gilded ones.
I suppose it's like telling a Dog it's bad. You tell it enough, it will start believing that it is bad.
I have also heard that the problem stemmed from Jett not recieving vaccinations as as infant...wonder if thats true? That is something I se more and more of...not because of Scientology but mostly because of the fear of the vaccines themselves
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I suppose it's like telling a Dog it's bad. You tell it enough, it will start believing that it is bad.
Yup...or rather, a lie told long enough is easier to hold up as truth, particularly when the person telling the lie and the person hearing it are one and the same. I'm sure it didn't help any that their chosen gilded cage would have classified their child as sub-human, had they entertained the thought he might have been autistic.
Poor kid. It sounds like he had a good life and loving parents, whether they were willing to admit the possibility of his being autistic or not, and he didn't deserve what happened to him.
Yup...or rather, a lie told long enough is easier to hold up as truth, particularly when the person telling the lie and the person hearing it are one and the same. I'm sure it didn't help any that their chosen gilded cage would have classified their child as sub-human, had they entertained the thought he might have been autistic.
Poor kid. It sounds like he had a good life and loving parents, whether they were willing to admit the possibility of his being autistic or not, and he didn't deserve what happened to him.
-Sean
Mrs. CB, who works with Special Children in the public schools was watching the news and reading the papers about this kid, and she says he showed the classic symptoms of autism. She doubts the Kawasaki Disease theory; the Travolta kid was too old.
John Travolta, Tom Cruise, I don't get it; you have everything anyone would want and then you get sucked into this science fiction religion. Maybe it feels nice feeling that you are descendants of some superior alien race. But isn't the only difference between a cult an a religion is how long has it been around, and how many people believe in it?
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I have also heard that the problem stemmed from Jett not recieving vaccinations as as infant...wonder if thats true? That is something I se more and more of...not because of Scientology but mostly because of the fear of the vaccines themselves
Slight tangent here (not trying to threadjack)...but two of the most heated areas that we as new parents encountered were: 1. Vaccinate or not to vaccinate, and 2. Bottle vs. breast. Both sides have very convincing arguments and both sides have supporters that are one step away from being zealots (or cult members?). I was flat-out shocked at the way some people would completely write us off because we chose to supplement our child's diet with formula (never mind the medical reasons why we had to), and the same with vaccinations. One of my wife's life-long friends didn't want her children around our son because we had him vaccinated and her children weren't. I don't take anything involving my family lightly, so I immersed myself in research on the subjects, and feel we made the best decisions based on the information at hand. (FWIW, there's the fringe out there of folks that believe that there's a link between vaccinations and autism, but I don't buy it) No where in there did I see anything that could make her children more or less suceptible to any known disease simply because my boy got shots and hers did not (in fact, quite the opposite, really). Needless to say, my wife was very upset that someone she had been friends with for 3 decades was no longer in her life, but it is what it is, I guess.
In an effort to bring this back OT, it's my observation that people are more passionate about nothing (except perhaps college football, but that's another thread) than their children, even with out religion/cult/whatever influences. Sometimes that passion (coupled with religious/cult/whatever influences) can make people so blind they don't see the forrest for the trees.
Losing a child is a terrible thing regardless of the circumstances surrounding it. Having to deal with the guilt (if any) from knowing that there was something that could be done to prevent it from happening is probably the only thing worse.
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Slight tangent here (not trying to threadjack)...but two of the most heated areas that we as new parents encountered were: 1. Vaccinate or not to vaccinate, and 2. Bottle vs. breast. Both sides have very convincing arguments and both sides have supporters that are one step away from being zealots (or cult members?). I was flat-out shocked at the way some people would completely write us off because we chose to supplement our child's diet with formula (never mind the medical reasons why we had to), and the same with vaccinations. One of my wife's life-long friends didn't want her children around our son because we had him vaccinated and her children weren't. I don't take anything involving my family lightly, so I immersed myself in research on the subjects, and feel we made the best decisions based on the information at hand. (FWIW, there's the fringe out there of folks that believe that there's a link between vaccinations and autism, but I don't buy it) No where in there did I see anything that could make her children more or less suceptible to any known disease simply because my boy got shots and hers did not (in fact, quite the opposite, really). Needless to say, my wife was very upset that someone she had been friends with for 3 decades was no longer in her life, but it is what it is, I guess.
In an effort to bring this back OT, it's my observation that people are more passionate about nothing (except perhaps college football, but that's another thread) than their children, even with out religion/cult/whatever influences. Sometimes that passion (coupled with religious/cult/whatever influences) can make people so blind they don't see the forrest for the trees.
Losing a child is a terrible thing regardless of the circumstances surrounding it. Having to deal with the guilt (if any) from knowing that there was something that could be done to prevent it from happening is probably the only thing worse.
~A
Very well put
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Bel Vector 995 Radar Detector,
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Cobra 75 WX ST Compact/Remote CB,
Sirius Satellite Radio,
S&W .38 Spl Laser grip (hot pink),
TRD sway bar (black widow style),
Debadged except TRD sticker,
Roxy Sticker
TS Tank Top
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Horn Blaster train horn, ARB rear bumper (if they ever make one) or line-x rear bumper, Color matched fender flares, Underseat storage of some sort, Winch (if i can ever afford one), GPS system! Sun roof! Going broke thinking about it.
__________________________________________
I need a new word of the month people!
John Travolta, Tom Cruise, I don't get it; you have everything anyone would want and then you get sucked into this science fiction religion. Maybe it feels nice feeling that you are descendants of some superior alien race. But isn't the only difference between a cult an a religion is how long has it been around, and how many people believe in it?
Atheism has been around for a long time. So I guess you could consider it a religion rather than a cult.
Every person is born with a God shaped hole in their heart. Only the true God of the Bible can fill it.
My faith is in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. He fills that hole in my heart.
What makes Him different is He is the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to God the Father except through Him.
Everyone has faith in something or someone; faith is important, but what is more important is the OBJECT of your faith. Is it true?
With all the counterfeits should tell you is, that man is a religious being, and the real things exists.
So remember, wise men and women still seek Him.
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Acts 4:9 If we (Apostles) are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed,
Ac. 4:10 then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the
name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but
whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before
you healed.
Ac. 4:11 He is “`the stone you builders rejected, which has become the
capstone.’ [Or cornerstone] [Psalm 118:22]
Ac. 4:12 Salvation is found in no-one else, for there is no other name
under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”
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