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At a good price? So my trailer (<- click) A 2004 Tahoe pak rat got really small once we had our twins. BUT they were small and all 4 of us slept on the bigger then king size bed. Well now they are bigger and we can't fit comfortably anymore. What we did at the end of last season was put the 2 pack and plays in on the floor but this meant no getting up at all since it took up all the floor space and having a wife that needs to get up 3 times a night was hard. So since we could not afford the $383 last season and the kids were small enough to fit inside we did not buy the tent room that goes on the back. NOW that we need it the company went out of business and we just put $650 on a card for the room from the new company that bought them. So needless to say that hurt and I am broke again but it was that or sell everythign and don't go to the desert anymore. I would like to get some sort of heater to heat the room for the kids for when it is really cold in the desert. Does anyone have any experience with tent heaters?

Here is a picture of the room we just ordered. Clicky It is 8ft x 7ft x 6ft (LxWxH) so 336 cubic feet.

I have seen tent Safe heaters by Coleman but they are SMALL and I do not think will do the job. I found the zodi which seems nice but runs off a battery and I would prefer not to have to carry an extra car battery plus it says no longer available for all their products???? Tentrax Sells the same thing made by them. I also found the Mr Heater Big Buddy which seems the nicest to me but again is pricey but runs off D batteries which I like better then a car battery. So before I spend more I wanted to see if anyone has any of these or knows of others?

Here is a link to another trailer identical to mine with a bunch of pictures if you need more info (He has the room installed in some pics as well). The trailer is equiped with a heater inside.

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Get yourself a decent Kerosene heater... And the wife will be you in no time flat while staying warm!

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Did your pack rat come with a heater?

My father in law gave me a pop up camper, Coleman Sequoia. Used it a couple time now, tested the heater but never NEEDED it. I've thought about taking it to the dez, but honestly it seems like a lot of work.

Anyways....it has a heater which runs on Propane, but with electronic ignition(I can get the brand when I go home, if you'd like). Has a thermostat, just like a house heater. But I also have a CO detector (I think most motorhomes have these) just in case something ain't working right. Heat is blown out a 1'x1' square register. I've had the kids camp in semi-cold weather (low 50's) and it's done OK. Not sure about 30 degree weather like out in the dez though.
-Put a large car battery that you can charge(and charges while towing) and I think it won't be a problem lasting for simple ignition(my pop up has this, maybe yours too), and use a standard propane tank for the core heating.

In any case, I'd imagine the easiest. You sleep in the tent room and kids sleep with mom in the bed, because unless the room is insulated very well, it will just suck any heat out.

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Did your pack rat come with a heater?

My father in law gave me a pop up camper, Coleman Sequoia. Used it a couple time now, tested the heater but never NEEDED it. I've thought about taking it to the dez, but honestly it seems like a lot of work.

Anyways....it has a heater which runs on Propane, but with electronic ignition(I can get the brand when I go home, if you'd like). Has a thermostat, just like a house heater. But I also have a CO detector (I think most motorhomes have these) just in case something ain't working right. Heat is blown out a 1'x1' square register. I've had the kids camp in semi-cold weather (low 50's) and it's done OK. Not sure about 30 degree weather like out in the dez though.
-Put a large car battery that you can charge(and charges while towing) and I think it won't be a problem lasting for simple ignition(my pop up has this, maybe yours too), and use a standard propane tank for the core heating.

In any case, I'd imagine the easiest. You sleep in the tent room and kids sleep with mom in the bed, because unless the room is insulated very well, it will just suck any heat out.

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Yes the inside of the trailer has a normal trailer heater with the thermostat and all that. Does well but as you said when it hits the 30's we end up using up all the battery life and alot of propane and it does not keep it that warm inside. I know the out back tent is not going to have any insulation I just wanted something to get the chill off...Maybe the kids will sleep inside on the cold Nights and we or just I will be out back. Good Idea did not think of that yet. I just thought that for sure someone has tried out a tent heater and could give me some info like...Don't waste your money or it does ok or somethign like that

If you want to go to the dez we go all the time. You got bikes or anything? Let me know if interested we are going soon...Halloween. We all have kids and stuff now so not as crazy as it used to be.
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You need to put some styrofoam on the bottom, keep the cold out

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Yes the inside of the trailer has a normal trailer heater with the thermostat and all that. Does well but as you said when it hits the 30's we end up using up all the battery life and alot of propane and it does not keep it that warm inside. I know the out back tent is not going to have any insulation I just wanted something to get the chill off...Maybe the kids will sleep inside on the cold Nights and we or just I will be out back. Good Idea did not think of that yet. I just thought that for sure someone has tried out a tent heater and could give me some info like...Don't waste your money or it does ok or somethign like that

If you want to go to the dez we go all the time. You got bikes or anything? Let me know if interested we are going soon...Halloween. We all have kids and stuff now so not as crazy as it used to be.
I'll take you up on the offer 1 day, I like Ocotillo, have a cr250 and crf50 for the girls to share.
Yeah, the little heaters in these trailers can't keep up, pumps out hot air but in my pop up, it just gets sucked up by the lack of insulation, I think that is the main problem. You need a wood burning stove (I'm only half kidding).
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I agree with Sano, a kerosene heater is probably the best option.
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You need to put some styrofoam on the bottom, keep the cold out

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I was planning on putting this down on the deck. We bought it for the play area and now want to pull it up so I thought it would be perfect for this. It is foam stuff so I would think it would insulate pretty well (PS: Not my kid or room just a pic from the net):



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Get yourself a decent Kerosene heater... And the wife will be you in no time flat while staying warm!

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OK DUMB question. Kerosene heaters can be run indoors right?
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Yup. They run 'em indoors all the time in Japan, I know, I have been there, done that.

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I've been in Japan in January, and they do indeed use unvented kerosene space heaters indoors. Most states have banned these things because of the pollutants they produce. In a tight house they can cause back drafting of water heaters and furnaces, but in a leaky camper they're probably OK. I'd leave a flap unzipped. Here's a short article from the DOE. Scroll down to "Vented and Unvented ..."
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IF you DO opt for a Kerosene heater, make sure you get one that does shut down before the Kerosene runs out.

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I think you should find a furnace from an old TT, build some sort of cabinet for it, then it will function as a counter type surface and a heater at the same time.

The child's room foam won't be as effective for insulation as styrofoam SM, I'd get the type which has the interlock tabs, then use the red tuck tape on the seams

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The child's room foam won't be as effective for insulation as styrofoam SM, I'd get the type which has the interlock tabs, then use the red tuck tape on the seams

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So why are you recommending this type of heater? I already recommended a Kerosene heater. But then the final decision is the OP's. And you meant to say "Duct Tape"?



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So why are you recommending this type of heater? I already recommended a Kerosene heater. But then the final decision is the OP's.



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For a couple reasons, first, he already has a propane tank attached to the front of his trailer. Plumbing a second line probably won't be that difficult and there's only one type of fuel to purchase.

Second, I've seen people spill kerosene when filling the heater, which is smelly and will no doubt eat his styrofoam floor.

Third, I think they are safer, and I too have experience with kerosene heaters, I know they turn off automatically when they are knocked over, but a built-in until won't knock over.

Fourth, the heater in a trailer is built for travel, they are built to go down bumpy roads, whereas a kerosene heater might break if its bouncing around.

Fifth, I've used propane furnaces in TTs when hunting (the temperature is usually below freezing at night), we usually set the thermostat on a fairly low setting during the day if its cool, so when you enter the trailer you simply turn up the temperature and its toasty in no time. Plus, I've never experienced a problem with one, with the possible exception of lines being eaten my critters or the propane running out in the middle of the night.

Sixth, if a can of kerosene tips or a kerosene heater tips over while driving, it can create a big mess. A propane tank could be upside down and not leak.
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