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This is a discussion thread titled "Toyota Echo - Just Don't Crash It", within the Out-of-Production Cars & Vans forum, part of the Cars & Vans Forums category.
So my buddy in the buick regal is standing in bumper to bumper traffic when bam, he gets hit from behind by a toyota echo going about 20. Getting out to inspect the damage, he noticed that the echo is pratically totalled from the front while his car doesn't have a scratch. This leads me to an important point. How come it seems that toyota, and japanese cars in general, are so easy to damage and repairs so expensive. Has toyota concentrated too much on protecting the driver and not at all on protecting the car in even minor accidents?
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So my buddy in the buick regal is standing in bumper to bumper traffic when bam, he gets hit from behind by a toyota echo going about 20. Getting out to inspect the damage, he noticed that the echo is pratically totalled from the front while his car doesn't have a scratch. This leads me to an important point. How come it seems that toyota, and japanese cars in general, are so easy to damage and repairs so expensive. Has toyota concentrated too much on protecting the driver and not at all on protecting the car in even minor accidents?
think about what your saying....
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Has toyota concentrated too much on protecting the driver and not at all on protecting the car in even minor accidents?
.....ummm answer is yes, wouldnt you rather call your insurance agent and discuss repair facilitys then to call a specialist and discuss your upcoming corective surgery????
"The cheese is only free inside the mousetrap"
Green V6 2wd highlander
(alarm,wheel locks,vin number on windows options)
Manik Full Front Guard
Manik Rear Guard
Manik Side steps
Velvet seat covers
Chrome Exhaust Tip
Hyper White xenon bulbs
Tint 20% rear, 30% front
less weight means better mileage, and that massive crumple zone (all the way to the passenger compartment, look behind your dash youll probably be able to see the internal cage) means if you slam in to a buick behemoth or a lincoln leviathan or a dodge dreadnought that your toyota teacup will still get you out alive.
(hehehe...teacup..."what, you gonna kill us with your coffee cup?" "tea." "what?" "it's a teacup." LOL...that movie kicked @ss...)
"The cheese is only free inside the mousetrap"
Green V6 2wd highlander
(alarm,wheel locks,vin number on windows options)
Manik Full Front Guard
Manik Rear Guard
Manik Side steps
Velvet seat covers
Chrome Exhaust Tip
Hyper White xenon bulbs
Tint 20% rear, 30% front
I bet the person in the Echo was not injured because the little car did EXACTLY what it was supposed to do and that is to absorb the impact. Go ahead and hit something at 20 mph with a vehicle that wasn't designed properly, and you will have lots of visitors .... at the hospital.
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Years ago I rear ended a toyota tercel with my Mazda B2200 truck. $3000.00 damage to my truck and one scratch on the bumper or the tercel....and one fake back injury lawsuit from the dumb girl I hit who did not speak a word on english
Yeah, I rear-ended someone with my Tundra in a less-than 5MPH "fender bender" No damage to either vehicle. Owner of the car ahead of me tried to claim to my insurance company a dent that my truck could not have possibly made.
I was in a pretty bad accident in a Chevy Metro where I was knocked into a Ford Ranger by a Dodge Ram pickup with enough force to shift the transmission into reverse. The car (Metro) ended up being totalled and I suffered "soft tissue" type damage. The Ranger I was knocked into needed a new bumper, as well as the Ram who hit me. I had a torn labrum in my left shoulder, and my right kneecap was knocked out of alignment. I still have some lingering problems from both, especially in humid weather.
I was involved in a pretty decent rear end before, and the exact thing happened to my car. rear-ended some lady while on the free-way, was going around 75 km at the time of impact, not sure exactly how fast she was, but her car had nothing more than a small dent in the bumper while my car at that time, a honda civic, had the entire front end crumpled in. Bumper pretty badly banged up, window cracked. (tho i heard it may be from the airbag deploy), bent radiator, hood bent up in half almost, ended up being a write-off. that said i guess the car did its job as i came out w/ no injury at all. At the time tho i was thinking what a piece of **** this car is when seeing the damage to mine compared to theirs.
I have a 2000 Echo with 142000 miles which is my daily driver. I love this car and would buy another if given the chance. Believe me I have seriously considered the crash factor as this car is so so small.
OK, I think most of us agree on one thing: we'd rather damage the car to hell and back and pay the insurance premium than total ourselves and put our lives in danger. Cars are (and have for some time been built) to protect you and your family. That is number one, and it should be. Alot of people just don't seem to get this though. Namely, I remember Car and Driver reviewing the new Camry a while back, slamming Toyota because of it's "obsession with safety:. Quote: "Safety first, fun second". They did say, however, "that's not really a philisophy you can argue with" or something of the nature. See, they (and others) know it's the right thing to do, to build vehicles in such a way they are damaged more in the interests of safety. They just don't like it. It was an accident. The car was badly damaged. Get over it. You're still alive.
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