Hi guys,
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I'm finally fed up with LR3 Like the car a lot, but had so many issues with it, not even funny, each time spend at least 1-2 weeks in a rental car. And my wife drives Highlander for 3.5 years and we are just changing oil. NOt a newbie for toyota products, always had them. LR3 was an impulsive buy.
So after some thoughts decided to go with new Tundra.
Basically a little confused what to choose.
I definitelly want DC Ltd. Std Bed
So now I have to chose
1. 4x2 4.7
2. 4x2 5.7 (because the difference something like $1200)
3. 4x4 4.7
4. 4x4 5.7
Will be using bed, that's why my choice is Tundra, but not very excessive and not for very havy items. I do not haul lots of stuff, may be just a jetski in some future or a trailer to move some furniture.
My first choice of corse was 4x2 4.7. But than I saw 4x2 5.7 wich is only a $1200 more, but gets more bells and wistles(bigger engine, temperaure gauge) and better milage (4.7 - 15/18 and 5.7 - 16/20). So 4x2 5.7 is my now my first best choice and 4x4 4.7 is a second. But after considering this I started to have questions about wheather I need 4x4, because 4x4 is beneficial. However we do not get much snow in Baltimore and I do not go offroad. Used 4x4 capabilities only 5 times on my LR3 during last couple years to get trough some deep snow.
So, please someone educate me on 4x4 benefits. I know it will be better for resale.
Will appriciate a feed back on any of those 4 choises.
4x4 is extra heavy, complex, hurts power and fuel economy and is more costly to maintain. = a big penalty for some extra winter traction. I'd prefer a 2WD truck + a spare set wheels equipped with dedicated snow tires, (and studs where permitted), for use from Nov. - March only.
4x4 is not worse on fuel economy when driven in 4x2 mode. In fact on the 4.7L V8 engines the fuel economy is exactly the same for all 07 Tundras regardless of 4x mode and cab model.
I used to be a fan of not getting 4x4 since most times you don't really need it, but I got it on my 07 DC Limited and I will never go back. I have already used it at least a dozen times when the wheels would spin on dirt, gravel, grass, and wet roads. Switch to 4x4 on the dash and no more slipping, instant traction, problem solved. It also makes you safer when driving in heavy rain and there really isn't a down side except for the added cost, which you will recover in resale value. If you can afford it then get the 5.7L V8 4x4, you won't regret it.
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I've always had 4x4's, going on 40 years now. Used mostly for getting to hunting, fishing, and camping sites. Aftermath of hurricane Katrina made 4 wheel drive a must for a long 10 month period. Guess you never know when it might be required.
Traded my Jeep Wrangler Rubicon for my Tundra 4X2. My justification for going to the 4X2 is that I only use the Jeep's 4x4 twice in the 2 yrs I owned it. Both times was to show off the Dana 44's. I do alot of hunting and this truck will do well. Snow might be a problem if you live in it. Buy what you want.....NO REGRETS!!!!
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My last few trucks/SUVs had all time all wheel drive and thats the only way I will invest extra money into 4x4. I can't even remember the number of times I locked it into 4x4 mode. If Toyota puts a good all time 4x4 system in place I will trade my Tundra in a heart beat. I don't off road or anything like that so the main reason I like full time all wheel drive is for extra turn stability and general handling. These new trucks come with pretty good stability control so thats covered. But yes... it could be nice to play with 4x4 mode from time to time.
If money is not a problem then just get the 4x4 5.7. Resale will be better and we Americans have penchant for buying stuff we never use but its nice to know its theer in case we do need it. IMO 4x4 does hurt fuel economy, but in the new Tundra it may be minimal. Also, keep in mind insurance on a 4x4 is always more expensive than 4x2.
It would be cool if they did a "Denali" version of the tundra with AWD and all pimped out cus the Denali is frickin badass.
Shouldn't the insurance be cheaper on a 4x4 because you have the option to be "safer"?
I really like the Denali trucks, but from the specs I've seen, we're still faster!
My vote is for 4wd. 381hp and 401lb. ft of torque is a lot of power to try and drive with on, let's say, wet grass. For instance, you can chirp the tires by just touching the gas pedal a little too hard on pavement. Say goodbye if your rear wheels are in sand.
Ultimately it's up to you. Realisticly, with my moderately heavy foot (flooring it 2-3 times a tank otherwise letting it shift at around 2K rpms), I'm getting like 13.5 after every tank of gas. Unfortunately I don't have a trip computer so I can't monitor average, instant, etc.
-rockstate
I was always under the impression that 4x4 was a tad more expensive. I don't think they consider it a safety device. In fact its the other way around. With 4x4 you might put your self in a spot that you would not otherwise (2wd) have gotten into. Not my opinion but that is what I think the insurance view is.
I was always under the impression that 4x4 was a tad more expensive. I don't think they consider it a safety device. In fact its the other way around. With 4x4 you might put your self in a spot that you would not otherwise (2wd) have gotten into. Not my opinion but that is what I think the insurance view is.
either way you are going to have cheaper insurance with the new tundra... I had a 06 tundra before this and the insurance actually was a couple hundred dollars cheaper with the 07... i guess its because of the vsc and 80 million airbags and standard alarm system... but whatever
either way you are going to have cheaper insurance with the new tundra... I had a 06 tundra before this and the insurance actually was a couple hundred dollars cheaper with the 07... i guess its because of the vsc and 80 million airbags and standard alarm system... but whatever
i got the 4x4 4.7L btw... overall very nice
No doubt, my insurance did drop a few bucks a month. I was more commenting on 4x4 or 4x2 in and of its self.
Thanks everyone for an input.
Definitely will go with 5.7. Still not very convinced on 4x4.
First, not sure if I will recover the difference of $3100 at resale.
Second, I'm sure I will be able to sell 4x2 (by owner) very easy, 5-7 years from now.
Third, 4x4 still sounds like an overkill for my case. I should be fine pulling 2 jetskies from the water with 4x2, right?
I am used to low MPG, right now I'm getting 13 with LR3 on premium. So 4x2 is tempting with 2-3 mpg, since it's like 50-75 miles more on single tank compare to 4x4. Lower insurance also a plus.
Thanks everyone for an input.
Definitely will go with 5.7. Still not very convinced on 4x4.
First, not sure if I will recover the difference of $3100 at resale.
Second, I'm sure I will be able to sell 4x2 (by owner) very easy, 5-7 years from now.
Third, 4x4 still sounds like an overkill for my case. I should be fine pulling 2 jetskies from the water with 4x2, right?
I am used to low MPG, right now I'm getting 13 with LR3 on premium. So 4x2 is tempting with 2-3 mpg, since it's like 50-75 miles more on single tank compare to 4x4. Lower insurance also a plus.
It really depends on the ramp but I would say you would be fine pulling that out. If the ramp is not really bad and slick you can pull just about anything the 4x4 can out of the water. A ton of people down here pull boats around with 2wd trucks and have no problem with ramps. On the other hand if I knew going in I would be pulling large boats out I would have gotten 4x4 for sure.
It really depends on the ramp but I would say you would be fine pulling that out. If the ramp is not really bad and slick you can pull just about anything the 4x4 can out of the water. A ton of people down here pull boats around with 2wd trucks and have no problem with ramps. On the other hand if I knew going in I would be pulling large boats out I would have gotten 4x4 for sure.
4X4 or 4X2?
Like the car a lot, but had so many issues with it, not even funny, each time spend at least 1-2 weeks in a rental car. And my wife drives Highlander for 3.5 years and we are just changing oil. NOt a newbie for toyota products, always had them. LR3 was an impulsive buy.
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Re: 4X4 or 4X2?
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