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Default Re: 2008 Tundra is inadmissible to Canada

Now, I'm a bit confused as to what all this means. Is this just relevant to importing an '08 or from the dealers as well?
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Part of the problem however is this requirement (copied from riv):

As part of the RIV inspection, the importer will be required to supply documentation to prove that the vehicle came equipped
with a factory installed system that complies with CMVSS 114 or that a recognized aftermarket system that meets the intent
of CMVSS 114, has been installed.

This could be a hurdle....of course if one person can get this proof and make it available to everyone.......
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Now, I'm a bit confused as to what all this means. Is this just relevant to importing an '08 or from the dealers as well?
Yes, this is only relevant to U.S. built vehicles being exported. Your vehicle is safe.

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Don't mean to sound ignorant, but what is an Engine Imobilizer?
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Excellent idea about indirectly proving the immobilizers are the same. I expect they are , this is purely political and a cash grab on canucks.

Do we have anyone here that can confirm mfg parts are the same between 2007 and 2008?

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Excellent idea about indirectly proving the immobilizers are the same. I expect they are , this is purely political and a cash grab on canucks.

Do we have anyone here that can confirm mfg parts are the same between 2007 and 2008?

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It may be possible that Toyota Canada and Toyota USA use different part numbers on their vehicle components. This is common practice in other manufactured goods.

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Don't mean to sound ignorant, but what is an Engine Imobilizer?
It's a theft-deterent device that electronically disables a component in the engine or starter. It is usually on a key fob or in the black plastic cover of your keys.

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2008 Tundra is now in-admissbale.

I spent the better part of Monday on the phone with RIV and Transport Canada. The immobolizer is the issue, transport Canada stated that as long as Toyota USA proved a letter stating the vehicle complies with CMVSS section 114, then it "should" be permissbale.

My dealer "just across the boarder" has had his wrist slapped and is no longer able to sell to Canadians. They will honor deals that were already in the works. That is me as I have a $500.00 deposit on a 2008 crew max TRD for 39k and change. I am losing sleep at night trying to decide if I want to take the 40k risk of bringing the truck into the country and then not being able to register/insure it for who knows how long - if ever. I am not real rosey with going with the word a Transport Canada employee gave me over the phone.

Local dealer here called me this am to advise they have 08 pricing. $44,850.00 for a 08 crew max off-road (TRD) package. That is within a couple hundred $ of the late production 07's they have sitting on the lot. The other issue is the finance rate, they will confirm later today bet they are 99% sure the interest rate for 08's will be 5.9% where the current rate for 07's is 3.9.

They have an 07 Limited on the lot with a sticker price of 53k that they are willing to sell me for 47k and chnage. Don't like leather - hot in the summer and cold in the winter, but it is a good deal.

I am torn what to do!
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It's a theft-deterent device that electronically disables a component in the engine or starter. It is usually on a key fob or in the black plastic cover of your keys.

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My 2007 CMax has the immobilizer. I thought it was standard equipment, is it not?
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2008 Tundra is now in-admissbale.

I spent the better part of Monday on the phone with RIV and Transport Canada. The immobolizer is the issue, transport Canada stated that as long as Toyota USA proved a letter stating the vehicle complies with CMVSS section 114, then it "should" be permissbale.

My dealer "just across the boarder" has had his wrist slapped and is no longer able to sell to Canadians. They will honor deals that were already in the works. That is me as I have a $500.00 deposit on a 2008 crew max TRD for 39k and change. I am losing sleep at night trying to decide if I want to take the 40k risk of bringing the truck into the country and then not being able to register/insure it for who knows how long - if ever. I am not real rosey with going with the word a Transport Canada employee gave me over the phone.

Local dealer here called me this am to advise they have 08 pricing. $44,850.00 for a 08 crew max off-road (TRD) package. That is within a couple hundred $ of the late production 07's they have sitting on the lot. The other issue is the finance rate, they will confirm later today bet they are 99% sure the interest rate for 08's will be 5.9% where the current rate for 07's is 3.9.

They have an 07 Limited on the lot with a sticker price of 53k that they are willing to sell me for 47k and chnage. Don't like leather - hot in the summer and cold in the winter, but it is a good deal.

I am torn what to do!
WHAT? only a few hundred off for the 08 canadian pricing??? tell me that you made a mistake....I have been waiting for weeks for Toyota Canada to announce 08 tundra pricing......If that is the case, Toyota can take a flying leap...I will not pay 10K more than our US friends....I will look at other manufactures who have adjusted their pricing.....

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My 2007 CMax has the immobilizer. I thought it was standard equipment, is it not?
Yes, it is standard on the CrewMax, but not available on the Reg. Cab V6 and is an option on the Reg. Cab V8.

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2008 Tundra is now in-admissbale.

I spent the better part of Monday on the phone with RIV and Transport Canada. The immobolizer is the issue, transport Canada stated that as long as Toyota USA proved a letter stating the vehicle complies with CMVSS section 114, then it "should" be permissbale.

My dealer "just across the boarder" has had his wrist slapped and is no longer able to sell to Canadians. They will honor deals that were already in the works. That is me as I have a $500.00 deposit on a 2008 crew max TRD for 39k and change. I am losing sleep at night trying to decide if I want to take the 40k risk of bringing the truck into the country and then not being able to register/insure it for who knows how long - if ever. I am not real rosey with going with the word a Transport Canada employee gave me over the phone.

They have an 07 Limited on the lot with a sticker price of 53k that they are willing to sell me for 47k and chnage. Don't like leather - hot in the summer and cold in the winter, but it is a good deal.

I am torn what to do!
Don't lose any more sleep. I would suggest phoning Canada Customs or RIV and tell them you have already paid a deposit on a vehicle that the U.S. dealer is going to honour and see if they will let you through. Someone else had phoned and were told that this took effect Nov. 1st, but they were letting those through that had already bought a vehicle as have you with your deposit.

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No mistake, the 08 is $44,500.00 and the 07 is $46,700.00 before the $2k gas card or rebate, netting it out at $44,700.00. Obviusly the 08 has no gas card or rebate program.

Immobolizer

The 08 I have on order from the US dealer has an immobilizer on it. The issue is not whether the 08's have an immobilizer, the issue is whether the immobilzer the US truck has on it complies or meets the RIV - CMSSV - Section 114 requirement. That is why RIV and Transport Canada want the letter from Toyota USA stating the immobilzer in US Tundra's meet or exceed section 114.
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Immobolizer

The 08 I have on order from the US dealer has an immobilizer on it. The issue is not whether the 08's have an immobilizer, the issue is whether the immobilzer the US truck has on it complies or meets the RIV - CMSSV - Section 114 requirement. That is why RIV and Transport Canada want the letter from Toyota USA stating the immobilzer in US Tundra's meet or exceed section 114.
In Post #15 of the Thread titled: 2008 RIV List - Import Risk Assessment you will find info a member posted regarding his phone conversation with Toyota USA. I don't know if there has been any changes between the 2007 & 2008 regarding immobilizers. However, as long as an auto manufacturer won't advise RIV if their vehicles are admissible then RIV would have to exclude them from the list. Myself, I believe they are CMSSV-114 compliant but Toyota won't tell RIV that.

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No mistake, the 08 is $44,500.00 and the 07 is $46,700.00 before the $2k gas card or rebate, netting it out at $44,700.00. Obviusly the 08 has no gas card or rebate program.
thanks for the info....I cannot believe the arrogance of Toyota....What makes them think that Canadians should pay so much more than the Americans??

I hope all Canadians put off their new vehicle purchases until the prices come down.....
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