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Default Re: Gas Mileage for 08 Sequoia

I just did a full tank test.

The trip computer reported 13.7 MPG average.
I went 293.18 miles
I later filled it with 21.498 (21.5) gallons.
So I calculated 13.64 MPG.

That is within 1/2 of 1 percent. So I can officially trust my trip computer from now on.

Also of note is that I filled my tank within 1 mile of when the trip computer said I had 0 miles range left. Since it is a 26.4 gallon tank, and I put in 21.5 gallons, I had 4.9 gallons remaining when I had "zero" range left. 4.9 * 13.6 MPG is 66 miles remaining. Even if I get just 12 MPG that is 59 miles left.

I am never going to bother to fill it until it says zero as there is always gas within 10 miles let alone 60 (unless there is a major natural disaster which is why my Wife's sister never has less than 1/2 a tank in CA).
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I just did a full tank test.

The trip computer reported 13.7 MPG average.
I went 293.18 miles
I later filled it with 21.498 (21.5) gallons.
So I calculated 13.64 MPG.

That is within 1/2 of 1 percent. So I can officially trust my trip computer from now on.

Also of note is that I filled my tank within 1 mile of when the trip computer said I had 0 miles range left. Since it is a 26.4 gallon tank, and I put in 21.5 gallons, I had 4.9 gallons remaining when I had "zero" range left. 4.9 * 13.6 MPG is 66 miles remaining. Even if I get just 12 MPG that is 59 miles left.

I am never going to bother to fill it until it says zero as there is always gas within 10 miles let alone 60 (unless there is a major natural disaster which is why my Wife's sister never has less than 1/2 a tank in CA).
I love to give ride to my friends and family sometimes (and love to see them flip out, when they see empty tank on cluster)... and then when i tell them i can give them a ride and still make home, and then pick them up again, and drive them home... after that i will fill up.... they don't believe me....
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I have a friend that works at the dealer, they are averaging 14-16 mpg with the demos in traffic.
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Default Re: Gas Mileage for 08 Sequoia

The latest:

Computer mpg = 15.2
Actual MPG = 13.4

Seems to be a fairly consistent 2 mpg off
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Computer mpg = 15.2
Actual MPG = 13.4

Seems to be a fairly consistent 2 mpg off
Well 2mpg off is bad but consistent is good right?
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Computer mpg = 15.2
Actual MPG = 13.4

Seems to be a fairly consistent 2 mpg off
Did you fill the tank both times and not top it off? If a full-serve guy topped it off on the first fill, that will mess it up. Did you reset the computer when you filled it? That is an over 13% difference and that is too great an error so most likely you are not doing something right.
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Did you fill the tank both times and not top it off? If a full-serve guy topped it off on the first fill, that will mess it up. Did you reset the computer when you filled it? That is an over 13% difference and that is too great an error so most likely you are not doing something right.
Yea - here in Indiana we have to pump it our self. Just fill it till it cuts off. But this is about normal on my rig. I'll swap in new plugs this weekend and see if that helps :\

Crashing - yea predictable is good.
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Yea - here in Indiana we have to pump it our self. Just fill it till it cuts off. But this is about normal on my rig. I'll swap in new plugs this weekend and see if that helps :\

Crashing - yea predictable is good.
New plugs? Is this an 08 Sequoia or an older year?
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no I have an 02.
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Lets keep track of mileage you are getting for your 08 Sequoia. I just completed a 400 mile trip on my 2wd 5.7 SR5. 80% highway, 20 % in-town. I got 17.9 Avg for this trip. I reset the meter before leaving for this trip. I drove between 65 and 75. Did not use cruise crontrol a whole lot.
The new EPA estimate seem very close to actula MPG. I had 3 occupents, no towing load, 87 Octane Gas filled by Toyota dealer.
I was getting around 19-20 MPG mixed mileage for my 2006 Ody 3.5. Compared to a minivan 18 mpg for 5.7 L engine is very reasonable.
This was the thread I replied to, suggesting that relying on the computer and getting 18 mpg seemed optimistic.
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no I have an 02.
I see now. The whole time I thought you were seeing inaccuracy with the 08 Sequoia, which confused me as to why some were so accurate and others not so much.

From what I can tell now then the computer fuel mileage tracker wasn't always accurate, but they are now very accurate. Has anyone seen an 08 computer that is not accurate? I still haven't run another tank of gas through my Sequoia but I'll track the next couple and post them here. If everyone continues to find the 08 computer to be accurate I'll quit tracking it manually after the third tank.
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This is interesting article on gas: Will bargain gas harm your car?


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The issue I don't see talked about nearly enough is gas with a 10% alcohol content like the AM/PM stations in my area. Most folks don't realize that alcohol has only %50 of the energy content of gasoline, which means that a %90/10 mix of gasoline/alcohol has only %95 the energy of straight gasoline. In most cars that translates directly into achieving only %95 the mileage of straight gasoline. It would be acceptable to have a %5 mileage drop if you were saving %5 or more on the cost of the gas but that usually isn't the case. In my area the stations like AM/PM that sell the 10% alcohol mix usually sell for 10 cents a gallon less. At current prices in my area the difference between gas at $3.00/gallon and $3.10/gallon is %3.22.

You're paying %3 less for your gas and getting %5 lower milage, meaning you're actually paying more per mile driven. Sure, it's a small difference but due to federal commodity laws gas stations that sell straight gas are not allowed to advertise that you will get better mileage with their gas so the average person thinks they are getting a deal buying gasahol and companies that do the right thing and sell pure gasoline are getting screwed out of the business they would receive if customers knew the truth.
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The issue I don't see talked about nearly enough is gas with a 10% alcohol content like the AM/PM stations in my area. Most folks don't realize that alcohol has only %50 of the energy content of gasoline, which means that a %90/10 mix of gasoline/alcohol has only %95 the energy of straight gasoline. In most cars that translates directly into achieving only %95 the mileage of straight gasoline. It would be acceptable to have a %5 mileage drop if you were saving %5 or more on the cost of the gas but that usually isn't the case. In my area the stations like AM/PM that sell the 10% alcohol mix usually sell for 10 cents a gallon less. At current prices in my area the difference between gas at $3.00/gallon and $3.10/gallon is %3.22.

You're paying %3 less for your gas and getting %5 lower milage, meaning you're actually paying more per mile driven. Sure, it's a small difference but due to federal commodity laws gas stations that sell straight gas are not allowed to advertise that you will get better mileage with their gas so the average person thinks they are getting a deal buying gasahol and companies that do the right thing and sell pure gasoline are getting screwed out of the business they would receive if customers knew the truth.
Very interesting information. I stopped using Arco years ago because of 2 reasons, most of them don't take credit cards, they tend to attract the shady customers and loiterers. Now I have 3rd reason to avoid them.
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Default Re: Gas Mileage for 08 Sequoia

If it makes you feel better with your choice, please continue to pump there. We do not have any problem with that.

It is hard to know exactly where each gas station gets its gas from. I found these messages from other site, and it is interesting.


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I see the thread diverted on differences between bargain gas and wrong octane gas.
The wrong octane is quite clear. In the past, while driving lower octane cars, I used to fill with premium for mountain driving. That gave me less gear downshifting, since the pinging didn't occur and not only keep the car driving faster, but giving some fuel saving.
Coming to bargain gas, few years ago, while one of local refineries was closed for repairs, the TV station set the camera at the gate of ARCO refinery. They recorded tankers with all brands coming from the gate >>> Shell, Chevron, BP unnamed.
Than come disclosures that it is common procedure that brands exchange fuel as a standard procedure. Meaning when you go to Shell station and Shell refinery is 200 miles away, you can be sure that the gas there is coming from ARCO refinery 50 miles away.
Than ARCO will sell Shell gas if that refinery is closer.
Supposable the top brands add additives into the tankers, but I never have see tanker on the side of the road and the driver on the top with bucket.
We buy fuels at bargain stations only. Don't think our original ML320 have ever seen Shell, or Chevron station. It still remains perfect car turning 10 years this year.

I totally agree with you even that I use Shell almost exclusively. But the brand dedicated additives are put in at the time they fill the tanker truck.

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The issue I don't see talked about nearly enough is gas with a 10% alcohol content like the AM/PM stations in my area. Most folks don't realize that alcohol has only %50 of the energy content of gasoline, which means that a %90/10 mix of gasoline/alcohol has only %95 the energy of straight gasoline. In most cars that translates directly into achieving only %95 the mileage of straight gasoline. It would be acceptable to have a %5 mileage drop if you were saving %5 or more on the cost of the gas but that usually isn't the case. In my area the stations like AM/PM that sell the 10% alcohol mix usually sell for 10 cents a gallon less. At current prices in my area the difference between gas at $3.00/gallon and $3.10/gallon is %3.22.

You're paying %3 less for your gas and getting %5 lower milage, meaning you're actually paying more per mile driven. Sure, it's a small difference but due to federal commodity laws gas stations that sell straight gas are not allowed to advertise that you will get better mileage with their gas so the average person thinks they are getting a deal buying gasahol and companies that do the right thing and sell pure gasoline are getting screwed out of the business they would receive if customers knew the truth.
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