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Default 2008 Sequoia payload looks too low

I am thinking to replace our mini van with 2008 Sequoia. One of the reasons is I plan to use it as a tow vehicle for a 5000 lb travel trailer. However, when I started to look into the payload spec. for 2008 Sequoia, I notice the payload is even lower than Honda Pilot. 2008 Sequoia SR5 5.7L 4X4 payload spec. is 1250lb, Honda Pilot 4X4 is 1322lb. I also notice Chevolet Tahoe payload spec. is 1776 lb. Can anyone help me to understand how could I tow a 5000lb trailer with about 600lb hitch weight and still carry 4 adults and two kids with this kind of payload spec? Only 1250lb.

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Default Re: 2008 Sequoia payload looks too low

Indeed it is somewhat low. Chevy's suburban has a 3/4 ton model that is higher - perhaps the new Sequoia Diesel will also have a higher payload ability, making it a 3/4 ton truck.
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I am thinking to replace our mini van with 2008 Sequoia. One of the reasons is I plan to use it as a tow vehicle for a 5000 lb travel trailer. However, when I started to look into the payload spec. for 2008 Sequoia, I notice the payload is even lower than Honda Pilot. 2008 Sequoia SR5 5.7L 4X4 payload spec. is 1250lb, Honda Pilot 4X4 is 1322lb. I also notice Chevolet Tahoe payload spec. is 1776 lb. Can anyone help me to understand how could I tow a 5000lb trailer with about 600lb hitch weight and still carry 4 adults and two kids with this kind of payload spec? Only 1250lb.
Seems odd that Toyota would boast about towing capacity and then have such a low payload! Might be worth a email or phone call to Toyota Central.

I do note that the TV ad I saw this weekend with the 08 sequoia towing a large travel trailer that it had several little kids in the sequoia. Not sure how many adults were riding in it as well?
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I am thinking to replace our mini van with 2008 Sequoia. One of the reasons is I plan to use it as a tow vehicle for a 5000 lb travel trailer. However, when I started to look into the payload spec. for 2008 Sequoia, I notice the payload is even lower than Honda Pilot. 2008 Sequoia SR5 5.7L 4X4 payload spec. is 1250lb, Honda Pilot 4X4 is 1322lb. I also notice Chevolet Tahoe payload spec. is 1776 lb. Can anyone help me to understand how could I tow a 5000lb trailer with about 600lb hitch weight and still carry 4 adults and two kids with this kind of payload spec? Only 1250lb.

The answer is that it will not. That is why I ditched my old Tundra for a 3/4 ton. When I carried 4 adults, 250lbs of gear and 500lb hitch weight the Tundra would bottom out on every little bump. My payload was just under 1,400lbs and with the 3/4 ton it went to 2,500lbs. HUGE DIFFERENCE. I really wish Chevy put the Duramax Diesel in their 3/4 ton Suburban.
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Seems odd that Toyota would boast about towing capacity and then have such a low payload! Might be worth a email or phone call to Toyota Central.

I do note that the TV ad I saw this weekend with the 08 sequoia towing a large travel trailer that it had several little kids in the sequoia. Not sure how many adults were riding in it as well?
That's been my argument with the Tundra since it first was released. The Crewmax 4x4 with the 5.7 in Limited has a max payload of 1,500lbs. Put in 4 adults, 250lbs of gear and slap on 1,000lbs hitch on a 10k lb trailer and you'll exceed the max payload by over 500lbs. If you're not hauling anyone it's all good.
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I love this picture and this is exactly what I want!!!

http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicle...ge/photo_6.jpg
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I love this picture and this is exactly what I want!!!

http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicle...ge/photo_6.jpg
...the passengers are in a follow-up car
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Default Re: 2008 Sequoia payload looks too low

Yeah, I'm researching the Yukon XL versus the Sequoia now.


Yukon and Sequoia are almost identical in dimension, but the XL is 1.5 feet longer. The Yukon has almost 1,700lbs payload, but towing is 8k lbs.

My brother in law had a good idea... At almost $60 for a fully loaded Sequoia why not buy two "his/hers" FJ Cruisers.

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I love this picture and this is exactly what I want!!!

http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicle...ge/photo_6.jpg

That trailer cost about twice as much as the SUV. They are nice, though.

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Default Re: 2008 Sequoia payload looks too low

I am wondering if there is any 2008 Sequoia owner using their 2008 Sequoia to tow a 5000 lb trailer with about 6-7 people in the SUV.
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Default Re: 2008 Sequoia payload looks too low

Can you toss on an equalizer hitch or air bags?
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Default Re: 2008 Sequoia payload looks too low

A weight distributing hitch is always a good idea if you're over a few thousand pounds. Aren't air bags optional on all trim levels? I have had six guys (over 1000lbs total) inside and about 4k total on the trailer, a 7'x14' enclosed with a lot of wind resistance. My gas mileage was only 9.5mpg but it felt great on the road. No issues at all, other than guzzling fuel at a surprising rate.
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I tried to order airbags on my new 4x4 sequoia and was told they were not available at this time. Only available on the 2x4, strange.
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Well the real story here is revealed very clearly in components that make up the Sequoia. Others refer to the Yukon XL here. the model to really look at is the Ykon XL 2500 or Suburban 2500. both of these actually tow less than what Toyota claims. Yet these 2500 series vehicle are built on HD truck frames as a reult they are quite heavy. That weight results in strength as well as controlling mass when towing heavy loads. But the components on the Sienna that reveal it's abilities are it's independent suspension (which is inappropriate for towing but great for light load ride quality and handling) and more importantly tire ratings. If you look at the tires on the 2500 series Suburban/Yukon you will find that they are 10 ply load range E - LT (light truck) 80 psi on 16" high pressure forged wheels. These tires are all about load carrying, heat tolerating conditions. They are pretty unattractive and they compromise ride quality for load capacity. It turns out, the rest of the vehicle reveals much of the same. On the surface these cars seem similar but in reality, one is very much of a heavy work oriented vehicle while the other is an occasional weekend tow vehicle for things like boats and pop up campers. Towing is one thing, load in the vehicle is different and generally additional. I would argue, if your planning to travel with your family and all of their stuff (which is why you own these things) you have to have both. But with a large margin in capacity if you want to travel safe and enjoy the process. Travelling with your family and toys is a real joy when you have the right equipment. in this case the right tool for towing costs 8K less. that does not happen very often. hope this helps you
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Well the real story here is revealed very clearly in components that make up the Sequoia. Others refer to the Yukon XL here. the model to really look at is the Ykon XL 2500 or Suburban 2500. both of these actually tow less than what Toyota claims. Yet these 2500 series vehicle are built on HD truck frames as a reult they are quite heavy. That weight results in strength as well as controlling mass when towing heavy loads. But the components on the Sienna that reveal it's abilities are it's independent suspension (which is inappropriate for towing but great for light load ride quality and handling) and more importantly tire ratings. If you look at the tires on the 2500 series Suburban/Yukon you will find that they are 10 ply load range E - LT (light truck) 80 psi on 16" high pressure forged wheels. These tires are all about load carrying, heat tolerating conditions. They are pretty unattractive and they compromise ride quality for load capacity. It turns out, the rest of the vehicle reveals much of the same. On the surface these cars seem similar but in reality, one is very much of a heavy work oriented vehicle while the other is an occasional weekend tow vehicle for things like boats and pop up campers. Towing is one thing, load in the vehicle is different and generally additional. I would argue, if your planning to travel with your family and all of their stuff (which is why you own these things) you have to have both. But with a large margin in capacity if you want to travel safe and enjoy the process. Travelling with your family and toys is a real joy when you have the right equipment. in this case the right tool for towing costs 8K less. that does not happen very often. hope this helps you
The 2500 Suburban weighs about 250lbs more than a Platinum Sequoia. I've owned 2 2500 Suburbans and they were sturdy tow vehicles. Its worth noting that they were not the best everyday vehicles since their leaf spring rear suspension is not the most pleasant of rides on a daily basis. Having towed an 8000 lb boat with a 2500 and a 1500 I would take the 1500 since the marginally higher towing capability isn't worth the trade-off of a far less comfortable ride for everyday driving.
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