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SequoiaGeneral discussion forum for the second generation 2008 and later Toyota Sequoia.
This is a discussion thread titled "2008 Toyota Sequoia interior....What a shame", within the Sequoia forum, part of the SUV Forums category.
I was picking up rear plate bulbs today when I had a chance to take a look at the new 2008 Toyota Sequioa. Dealer only had one model on the showroom floor so no test drive. That will be next. Overall, what a shame on Toyota's part.
First the good.
Outstanding job on overall exterior fit and finish. No complaints about the paint job and. I like the overall evolution of the exterior. The grille is ok in my books thankfully it does not have the fake Tundra black plastic stripe. Decent rims are on the platinum which was the vehicle I looked at.
The inside. Nice size centre console for front and 2nd row...heated seat in the back is a nice touch as well and the climate control and dvd. The preferated leather seats are much nicer and little softer than the Tundra and are on par with the Toyota Landcruiser.
I have to give Toyota solid marks on having all the available features available. Heated/cooling seats, power telescoping steering, dual climate, aux input etc etc they are all there.
Thank you toyota for putting the auto climate control on the wheel. Also nice to see Toyota include a power lumbar for the passenger seat.
The best part of this Sequioa is the fold flat powered rear seats. Toyota went all the way with the fold flat. Nice touch having four locations to lower the seats.
The bad. (if you own a Sequioa don't read)
I do not understand how Toyota can get away with such cheap materials inside and a cheesy dash design. I know the Tundra is bad but this just confirms it. The door panels have no design, feel cheap and sound like the will begin to rattle after two weeks on the road. The centre console shifter does not belong in a $60k SUV.
Why can't Toyota put covers over the seat anchors. Why why why can't they. My 03 tundra has them (note: Toyota cost cut this small plastic cover out of the 05-08 Tundra/Sequoia)
Is this dash really spray painted black because it feels and looks like it.
Overall a good design for the interior is damaged by very poor interior materials
This Toyota looks like is was designed for sales and not customer quality and loyalty.
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Last edited by pagemaster; 02-23-2008 at 05:29 PM.
Yea I partly agree with you on a few detail's. I had my oil change done and test drove the 2008 Sequoia since i know the sales person pretty well and this is my Impression.
1.The steering ratio is vastly improved over first Gen.
2.The power rear seat's are a winner however hate to see that feature breaking down.
3.Platinum is overated in price wow I spent 60k on this i need to review my head
4.Navi is a huge downgrade Nothing new there LOL..
5.Jbl sounded a little better on this system.Toyota still has room for improvement's in there degraded audio system who lack's refinements .
6. Rear sunshades are stolen from a Bmw product in the rear door and 3rd seat rear window yet I like the overall design and functions.
7. The rear end on the 08 is dated look's like the Older Sequoia .
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Last edited by Tundrav8yamaha; 02-23-2008 at 06:10 PM.
3.Platinum is overated in price wow I spent 60k on this i need to review my head
4.Navi is a huge downgrade Nothing new there LOL..
5.Jbl sounded a little better on this system.Toyota still has room for improvement's in there degraded audio system who lack's refinements
Its too bad Toyota did not do for the Sequioa what they did for the Landcruiser. In the LC the navigation, climate, rear climate, radio , blue tooth and (your FAVORITE) xm radio (LX570) with traffic (LX570) are all integrated into one complete unit. All buttons and switch gear work together with what is on screen. It really is nice and the best part is it is VERY fast in function. I wish I had the cash for LC.
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2003 Salsa Red Pearl
Last edited by pagemaster; 02-23-2008 at 07:22 PM.
I like how you guys complain about $60k car!
What about 4-6 years ago, how much was gas? and what about car prices?
Want a nicer car with all upgrades (except bluetooth) with out paying more? - GET A ESCALADE!!!
Why cry, when there is options available, just get what you like, for the right price!
AND NO, I don't work for toyota. I used to love BMWs untill, I start having issues. And guess what, am I crying like you guys? No, I got my self a different car.
Getting kind of old, and boring. Crappy Plastic Interior, Nav Really SUX, Etc.... well, pay a bit more, and get what you like - either LC, or LX570, if price is too high, then go to GM, or Ford.
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2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4x4 w/ lxr package, 7008 navi, rear entartaiment system, 20" x-sp enkei
2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 4x4 Supercharged w/ lots of miles on it!
I like how you guys complain about $60k car!
What about 4-6 years ago, how much was gas? and what about car prices?
Want a nicer car with all upgrades (except bluetooth) with out paying more? - GET A ESCALADE!!!
Why cry, when there is options available, just get what you like, for the right price!
AND NO, I don't work for toyota. I used to love BMWs untill, I start having issues. And guess what, am I crying like you guys? No, I got my self a different car.
Getting kind of old, and boring. Crappy Plastic Interior, Nav Really SUX, Etc.... well, pay a bit more, and get what you like - either LC, or LX570, if price is too high, then go to GM, or Ford.
I don't think its old discussing the faults on toyota current offering because they have lacked but we still buy them.is buying a 60k seq really worth it? too some yes but why offer outdated equipment to the table.you would be better off buying an sr5 and saving a whole lot.yes gas has gone up and I don't justify 60k on a piece of steel but more power to you if you buy it.
I don't think its old discussing the faults on toyota current offering because they have lacked but we still buy them.is buying a 60k seq really worth it? too some yes but why offer outdated equipment to the table.you would be better off buying an sr5 and saving a whole lot.yes gas has gone up and I don't justify 60k on a piece of steel but more power to you if you buy it.
The relatively minor price differences between the Plat and LTD were a non-factor for me.
The drivers in my decision-making were features.
My current SUV has heated 2nd row seats. My family likes and uses them. I wasn't going to go backwards therefore having 2nd row heated seats were an important feature for me.
I knew I wanted A/C front seats particularly since I'm getting a black vehicle.
I felt the H-TEMS adjustable suspension would make for a more comfortable tow vehicle, particularly on some of my longer towing trips.
I felt the electrically adjustable, memory tilt/telescope steering wheel was an important feature for me as a tall driver with a shorter wife.
Having had multiple SUVs with light colored carpeting that soon looked shabby after a few boating seasons, I knew I had to have dark carpeting (which is only available with the Red Rock interior).
Each of these features are exclusive to the Platinum edition of the Sequoia. If these aren't important needs for others than the Platinum is probably not worth the $2000 additional cost over a fully loaded Limited Sequoia.
The relatively minor price differences between the Plat and LTD were a non-factor for me.
The drivers in my decision-making were features.
My current SUV has heated 2nd row seats. My family likes and uses them. I wasn't going to go backwards therefore having 2nd row heated seats were an important feature for me.
I knew I wanted A/C front seats particularly since I'm getting a black vehicle.
I felt the H-TEMS adjustable suspension would make for a more comfortable tow vehicle, particularly on some of my longer towing trips.
I felt the electrically adjustable, memory tilt/telescope steering wheel was an important feature for me as a tall driver with a shorter wife.
Having had multiple SUVs with light colored carpeting that soon looked shabby after a few boating seasons, I knew I had to have dark carpeting (which is only available with the Red Rock interior).
Each of these features are exclusive to the Platinum edition of the Sequoia. If these aren't important needs for others than the Platinum is probably not worth the $2000 additional cost over a fully loaded Limited Sequoia.
as long as your happy and justify your decision to get what your intitled too really all that madders in my book. I personally think toyota is stilly to offer there top of the line seq platinum with outdated navigation since the infiniti and nissan aramada offers nicer hdd equipment at a nicer price point.toyota needs to review what is offered esp at the given price I would skip toyota entirely given the factors above or get a lexus gx or lx.
A well negotiated Platinum 4x4 can be had for around $55k. A 2 wheel drive, even less.
I agree that the interior is not as nice, as say a LC. This being said, the deciding factor for me was not the frills (which, granted, are nice), but two other factors, which I guarantee to you 90% of the buyers hold more important, (i) the powertrain & drivetrain, and (ii) the interior flexibility.
Show me another vehicle at, even at $55K, that tops the Sequoia in its superiority when it comes to (i) and (ii) above, and I'll buy into the argument that a Platinum Sequoia is overpriced at $55k.
Also, I'm getting tired of all the talk about the NAV. Who gives a hoot if the NAV data is on HDD vs. a DVD. Do owners with DVD Navs have to insert a new disk each time they get into their vehicle? No. Are owners of either forms of NAV going to have to pay to have their map data updated if they want the latest and greatest info, be it via a new DVD or an upload? Yes.
I have a 2003 Infiniti G35 with a DVD NAV and I still find it plenty useful. Sure, it doesn't have real time traffic, a touch screen or voice commands. Guess what.....I still find it plenty useful for what a Navigation system is ultimately for....Navigation!
Also, the reason why Nissan, Mazda and other tier 2 japanese manufacturers provide additional frills (HDD Nav, HIDs, smart key, etc.) is to keep them competitive against the more established players. For eg. the Honda Accord and Camry easily outsell the Nissan Altima or Mazda 6, despite the lack of some of the frills. I'm not saying that Toyota/Honda and others should not step up with some of the gadgets, what I am saying is that they're able to outsell the others, without them. Begs the question of why?
By the way, I own a Nissan product (G35) and love it -- full disclosure before anyone gets upset that Nissan/Mazda were labeled at tier 2.
Last edited by VernSchillinger; 02-24-2008 at 03:59 PM.
A well negotiated Platinum 4x4 can be had for around $55k. A 2 wheel drive, even less.
I agree that the interior is not as nice, as say a LC. This being said, the deciding factor for me was not the frills (which, granted, are nice), but two other factors, which I guarantee to you 90% of the buyers hold more important, (i) the powertrain & drivetrain, and (ii) the interior flexibility.
Show me another vehicle at, even at $55K, that tops the Sequoia in its superiority when it comes to (i) and (ii) above, and I'll buy into the argument that a Platinum Sequoia is overpriced at $55k.
Also, I'm getting tired of all the talk about the NAV. Who gives a hoot if the NAV data is on HDD vs. a DVD. Do owners with DVD Navs have to insert a new disk each time they get into their vehicle? No. Are owners of either forms of NAV going to have to pay to have their map data updated if they want the latest and greatest info, be it via a new DVD or an upload? Yes.
I have a 2003 Infiniti G35 with a DVD NAV and I still find it plenty useful. Sure, it doesn't have real time traffic, a touch screen or voice commands. Guess what.....I still find it plenty useful for what a Navigation system is ultimately for....Navigation!
Also, the reason why Nissan, Mazda and other tier 2 japanese manufacturers provide additional frills (HDD Nav, HIDs, smart key, etc.) is to keep them competitive against the more established players. For eg. the Honda Accord and Camry easily outsell the Nissan Altima or Mazda 6, despite the lack of some of the frills. I'm not saying that Toyota/Honda and others should not step up with some of the gadgets, what I am saying is that they're able to outsell the others, without them. Begs the question of why?
By the way, I own a Nissan product (G35) and love it -- full disclosure before anyone gets upset that Nissan/Mazda were labeled at tier 2.
Many people give a hoot because with Toyota the Refinement on Navi is not there period I hated the 07 Avalon system Yuk what a Pos.Hdd is vastly superior on the Multitasking properties and multimedia storage on the system drive.Hdd delivery from Mapping down to 12 million PoI and ipod like storage on your Music Library on The drive makes this one of very best system's to date because of storage and not carrying cd's is also nice factor.Go Test out a Lexus Ls/Pathfinder armada with Xm navi traffic/hdd sometime and report back your finding the sofeware is finally making it's way in Toyota yet Nissan and the other's had this a wile now. You are expected to pay for Xm Navi services but Navigation work's without the feature.Xm navi traffic mainly show's hot spot's and problem area large cities only otherwise if you don't live in there not an issue on having this at all.Also updates on mapping sofeware on Hdd are Dvd based stick on the mapping sofeware pay the $250 update and your done But you don't have to kept the dvd's nor loss them built into the system or have an east coast and west coast edition like dvd based system's.
"hold more important, (i) the power train & drive train, and (ii) the interior flexibility" Yet your missing one important aspect interior feature's and overall economics's.Yes your post is most correct on not finding an SUV in this class that top's Seq power train & drive train but there are many in this class who are very close to exceed Toyota yet offer better interior amenities.I'm sure Toyota will be topped very soon that's expected in this market but Typically Gm outsells Toyota on large scale Suv's wile Sales on these rig's in general has gone down due to the price of gas (as one member pointed out).
I think it's great you own a Infiniti G35 that is a great product by the way least your not brand Loyal and buy Toyota for everything.Speaking of brand loyal my parent's started me off on the whole Toyota deal but they ditched them on the last new car.My Mom got a brand new 99 avalon which she still has and enjoyed this time around but purchased a brand new 2 door Ex Honda accord with Navi. Yes she looked at Bmw and even Toyota but a little put off on the Navigation from them as i know what to expect there too. My mom works in Investement restate (Banker) and need's a car that you can type your information in and drive to your route Toyota didn't provide that on the new Avalon which is Non Touch screen and lacked bluetooth on the 06/07 model
Yes people very much do review these options afterall Utlity is most important because you spend a lot of time inside your car too sadly for us city folks
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Last edited by Tundrav8yamaha; 02-24-2008 at 06:25 PM.
So, If you guys think that Sequoia is over priced, why not pick another car?
Nav System with XM Traffic is not important, since i live in the area, where we have almost zero traffic to begin with! If you have avalon - and hate it, get a different car! Just like few people that got an accord instead of avalon.
Me personally is not attached to toyota, since i think its piece of metal to begin with, but i like reliable electronics vs. lots of gadgeds on my 740il, and i repair small electronics in it at least once a month (drivers seat motor, headlight computer, etc... cost lots of $$$ even for used items). To say, toyota is flawless, its not true.
I am so tired of same stuff - crying -over and over again. May be create new tread, WHAT I HATE ABOUT TOYOTA, and make a sticky. Every time you want to cry about something, post it there, and every time you repply as a negative to Nav system, or cheap plastics, or how heavy rear door is, just point link to that tread.
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2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4x4 w/ lxr package, 7008 navi, rear entartaiment system, 20" x-sp enkei
2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 4x4 Supercharged w/ lots of miles on it!
I don't mean to hurt someone's sensitive feelings...but I think it is important for people to notice the cost cutting going on at Toyota. I have never seen Toyota be the subject to such critisism like they have going on now. edmunds complains of the interiors..the camry feels a little cheap, so does the highlander. The new Sequioa interior material is just damn aweful...especially with the very poor designed door panels, spray painted dash and then lack of seat anchor covers on a $60k SUV.
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Many people give a hoot because with Toyota the Refinement on Navi is not there period
I have to agree with Tundrayv8amaha. Toyota USA clearly has sold out to growth and sales over quality and refinement... I have no doubt that the USA Toyota are as well built as the Japanese Toyota's but there is an abvious design difference between the two. The Sequioa is clearly after sales.
I remember a time when Toyota would sacrifice certain feature for better build quality and refinement and it cleary there on the 2008 Toyota Land Cruiser. Sure there are no cooling seats, trick suspension or this. But 4 zone climate, 28 vents, a very well integrated Nav system is all there.
The first gen Tundra/Seqiuoa were cleary Japanese designed with emphasis on quality and refinement over features and ammentities. Not so with this Sequoia....total USA design...are Americans/Canadians that dumb to not notice cost cutting.
Did I mention the Camry v6 was removed from Consumer Reports reccomended list..
as long as your happy and justify your decision to get what your intitled too really all that madders in my book. I personally think toyota is stilly to offer there top of the line seq platinum with outdated navigation since the infiniti and nissan aramada offers nicer hdd equipment at a nicer price point.toyota needs to review what is offered esp at the given price I would skip toyota entirely given the factors above or get a lexus gx or lx.
Trust me...I'm no rabid toyota fan. I simply buy the the best vehicle on the market that meets my particularly needs at the time I'm shopping. I shared those needs above with the thought that others might have those same needs.
I've owned many GM vehicles and would have bought another if it was the best option. I carefully considered the Escalade, Armada, QX56, Denali, Sequoia and Navigator. No other vehicles were in the running due to tow capacities and general level of luxury features. Money was not a deciding factor as all of these were in a general ballpark that was equivalent to me. The toyota twins LX & LC, the MB GL and Range Rover were all too small for my needs, plus only the GL has seats that fold into the floor.
On balance, the Sequoia wins relatively hands down with only the QX56 giving it a run for its money based on the features I found important. Namely power, interior space, interior flexibility, drivetrain, several key luxury features and to a smaller extent the overall esthetics of the vehicle.
The Sequoia and GM twins win on power.
The Sequoia, Nissan twins and Ford win on interior flexibility
Of these, the the Nissan twins lose the interior space race.
The drivetrains were good on all of the choices.
Luxury goes to the GM's with the QX running close. The Platinum Sequoia kept Toyota from getting knocked out of the running but they clearly could have done a better job and my guess is that the next 6-7yrs of this model's refinements will be mostly focused on the interior.
Esthetics (my tastes) goes to the Sequoia. The Caddy is too gaudy, and the Denali is too bug-eyed (I liked the looks of the previous gen Denali far better). The QX and Armada are simply too odd in the c-pillar and front end. The Navigator looks too close to being a minivan.
So much for my opinions. Maybe they match others or maybe they are the opinion of one, but my guess is that the Sequoia will be behind the sales of the GM luxury twins and will pull far ahead of the Nissan or the Ford products in terms of units sold this year.
Its also my guess that the LX and LC will disappear from the US market over the next 5 yrs. For all intents and purpose they are effectively gone already in terms of unit sales.
They're overpriced because they are imported from Japan and offer very little for the $10-20K premium over the Sequoia. Once Toyota has weaned the Japan manufacturing plants down to ROW only without the US volume for the LC/LX, I expect that the US plants will be upgraded to handle a Lexus version of the Sequoia. When that happens, the LC and LX will be dropped from the US model line-up all together.
You are not hurting my feelings.
1. its only opinion. Back in the days MB was considered best car, and what happened now? (its #38 on a list)
2. Buick is still the best car to buy, since its very reliable, very little repair done at dealerships under warranty, and after.
Stop crying! By the way, Tundra and Sequoia was always in US/Canada market only.
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2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4x4 w/ lxr package, 7008 navi, rear entartaiment system, 20" x-sp enkei
2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 4x4 Supercharged w/ lots of miles on it!
Many people give a hoot because with Toyota the Refinement on Navi is not there period I hated the 07 Avalon system Yuk what a Pos.Hdd is vastly superior on the Multitasking properties and multimedia storage on the system drive.Hdd delivery from Mapping down to 12 million PoI and ipod like storage on your Music Library on The drive makes this one of very best system's to date because of storage and not carrying cd's is also nice factor.Go Test out a Lexus Ls/Pathfinder armada with Xm navi traffic/hdd sometime and report back your finding the sofeware is finally making it's way in Toyota yet Nissan and the other's had this a wile now. You are expected to pay for Xm Navi services but Navigation work's without the feature.Xm navi traffic mainly show's hot spot's and problem area large cities only otherwise if you don't live in there not an issue on having this at all.Also updates on mapping sofeware on Hdd are Dvd based stick on the mapping sofeware pay the $250 update and your done But you don't have to kept the dvd's nor loss them built into the system or have an east coast and west coast edition like dvd based system's.
"hold more important, (i) the power train & drive train, and (ii) the interior flexibility" Yet your missing one important aspect interior feature's and overall economics's.Yes your post is most correct on not finding an SUV in this class that top's Seq power train & drive train but there are many in this class who are very close to exceed Toyota yet offer better interior amenities.I'm sure Toyota will be topped very soon that's expected in this market but Typically Gm outsells Toyota on large scale Suv's wile Sales on these rig's in general has gone down due to the price of gas (as one member pointed out).
I think it's great you own a Infiniti G35 that is a great product by the way least your not brand Loyal and buy Toyota for everything.Speaking of brand loyal my parent's started me off on the whole Toyota deal but they ditched them on the last new car.My Mom got a brand new 99 avalon which she still has and enjoyed this time around but purchased a brand new 2 door Ex Honda accord with Navi. Yes she looked at Bmw and even Toyota but a little put off on the Navigation from them as i know what to expect there too. My mom works in Investement restate (Banker) and need's a car that you can type your information in and drive to your route Toyota didn't provide that on the new Avalon which is Non Touch screen and lacked bluetooth on the 06/07 model
Yes people very much do review these options afterall Utlity is most important because you spend a lot of time inside your car too sadly for us city folks
Dude, get off your Navigation high horse! Every third post of yours on this forum involves criticism of the toyota NAV system. Seems like your no 1 prority is Navagation. If you like your aftermarket stuff...great...more power to you. For the rest of us that look beyond the toys and at reality...we would appreciate it if you wouldn't try and jam it down our throats.
Last edited by VernSchillinger; 02-24-2008 at 08:32 PM.
Dude, get off your Navigation high horse! Every third post of yours on this forum involves criticism of the toyota NAV system. If you like your aftermarket stuff...great...more power to you. For the rest of us...we would appreciate it if you wouldn't try and jam it down our throats.
2008 Toyota Sequoia interior....What a shame
least your not brand Loyal and buy Toyota for everything
.Speaking of brand loyal my parent's started me off on the whole Toyota deal but they ditched them on the last new car.My Mom got a brand new 99 avalon which she still has and enjoyed this time around but purchased a brand new 2 door Ex Honda accord with Navi. Yes she looked at Bmw and even Toyota but a little put off on the Navigation from them as i know what to expect there too. My mom works in Investement restate (Banker) and need's a car that you can type your information in and drive to your route Toyota didn't provide that on the new Avalon which is Non Touch screen and lacked bluetooth on the 06/07 model 
