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This is a discussion thread titled "2008 Sequoia Poor Ground Clearance", within the Sequoia forum, part of the SUV Forums category.
Hill Descent = 4Lo Locked in electronic low (push the button on dash)
And, with the new Icon-Donahoe CO lift/Camburg UCA/Nitto Terra Grapplers - traction, approach, departure and breakover are even better. Not a rock crawler, but I can go most anywhere a Rubicon can within the limits of the vehicle width and departure angle.... momentum and touch-up paint are my friends!
Hill Descent = 4Lo Locked in electronic low (push the button on dash)
And, with the new Icon-Donahoe CO lift/Camburg UCA/Nitto Terra Grapplers - traction, approach, departure and breakover are even better. Not a rock crawler, but I can go most anywhere a Rubicon can within the limits of the vehicle width and departure angle.... momentum and touch-up paint are my friends!
Lets see, where you went off road?
You are all about talk, show what you got for off-road.
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Originally Posted by tbrooks123
Hill Descent = 4Lo Locked in electronic low (push the button on dash)
And, with the new Icon-Donahoe CO lift/Camburg UCA/Nitto Terra Grapplers - traction, approach, departure and breakover are even better. Not a rock crawler, but I can go most anywhere a Rubicon can within the limits of the vehicle width and departure angle.... momentum and touch-up paint are my friends!
As for Sequioa. IRS simply does not fly off road. IRS simply is not strong enough and does not articulate off road all that well. Neither does 28 degree approach or the a little too large size of the SUV. Wheelbase of the Sequioa is too long. No multi terrain ABS, hill start, or down hill assist.
The H1 Hummer, what the military uses is known as one of the best off-road vehicles on the planet. Its rear independent double wishbobe suspension is very similar to what the 2008 Sequoia has. Also ground clearence is measured at the bottom of the differential pumpkin, which on the Sequoia is pushed upward within rear suspension, also very similar to the H1. The only major difference with the H1 is ground clearence which is greater, and no running boards.
Remember that thge sequoia has a 122" wheelbase, much less than a double cab Tundra, so while the Tundra is higher, the sequoia has the same or better off-raod capabilities if you consider the amount of angle at center of vehicle when traveling over rocks.
The H1 Hummer, what the military uses is known as one of the best off-road vehicles on the planet. Its rear independent double wishbobe suspension is very similar to what the 2008 Sequoia has. Also ground clearence is measured at the bottom of the differential pumpkin, which on the Sequoia is pushed upward within rear suspension, also very similar to the H1. The only major difference with the H1 is ground clearence which is greater, and no running boards.
Remember that thge sequoia has a 122" wheelbase, much less than a double cab Tundra, so while the Tundra is higher, the sequoia has the same or better off-raod capabilities if you consider the amount of angle at center of vehicle when traveling over rocks.
Everyone would do well not to engage PM. He's a waste of time with limited knowledge and lots of baseless opinion on issues of no importance. I placed him on my ignore list a long time ago because he's not very insightful or knowledgeable and he's typically more interested in antagonizing then sharing information.
The H1 Hummer, what the military uses is known as one of the best off-road vehicles on the planet. Its rear independent double wishbobe suspension is very similar to what the 2008 Sequoia has. .
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Yes the Hummer is fantastic off road but that is not because of the IRS. It is because of the outstanding approach/departure angles, large off tires. Where the Hummer suffers is from the sheer size of the vehicle.
While of course solid will have better RTI overall, a poorly designed RTI can do worse than a well designed independent. We are seeing more and more and more independent with better and better RTIs.
For crazy off roading I don't see independent being competitive, but I really like the comment above that we should focus this on 'somewhat hard' off roading.
I measured the hieght of a pre-2008 Sequoia and the rear part was actually closer to 12 for many many feet in the rear- the axle obviously is the lowpoint. Just to say, other cars are more flat underneath and the older Sequoia at least had massive clearance at the back after the balljoint.
For its size the Sequoia should be considered really, really good at off-roading (in the more gentle sense - not extreme rock-crawling). I would think you should do something to it to get 33 inch tires if you really are going to do this a lot, but it shouldn't be too hard to get 33s in there, no? Maybe a 2" front-only lift and some bumper work?
The H1 Hummer, what the military uses is known as one of the best off-road vehicles on the planet. Its rear independent double wishbobe suspension is very similar to what the 2008 Sequoia has. Also ground clearence is measured at the bottom of the differential pumpkin, which on the Sequoia is pushed upward within rear suspension, also very similar to the H1. The only major difference with the H1 is ground clearence which is greater, and no running boards.
Remember that thge sequoia has a 122" wheelbase, much less than a double cab Tundra, so while the Tundra is higher, the sequoia has the same or better off-raod capabilities if you consider the amount of angle at center of vehicle when traveling over rocks.
The H1 doesnt use your soccer mom IRS though. The H1 heas heavy duty Portal IFS/IRS. Though the are great in the sand and probably hold their own in the swamps, they arent all that great on the rocks. I have seen them at the Rubicon and they don't do very well. However since they are way over built they can be powerd through the rocks, but they don't do it with much grace and they dont flex well at all.
The Sequoia wasn't designed to be a serious off road vehicle, that isn't why most people by them. I am sure they do great plowing through a couple feet of snow to get you to your favorite ski resort and I am sure that they can get you in and out of most camp grounds and to your favorite fishing spot. But with the redesign, Toyota clearly wasn't building a trail vehicle, they dont have to, the FJ Cruiser, 4runner and Land Cruiser have covered that part of the market covered.
I personally love the new Sequoia and plan on buying one in a few years after I put some more miles on my Tacoma and start a family. I am a very outdoors person and I personally feel the Sequoia will be a better fit for me than the Land Cruiser. Though both the Sequoia and Land Cruiser will easily be able to tow my FJ40 and travel trailer (coming soon, hopefully). I am sure both are great on snow covered roads and will be able to handle the fire trails to good camp sites. However, the Sequoia is bigger roomier and the IRS is probably pretty nice for daily driving purposes. Plus I have an FJ40 for my trail rig so I dont need the added ability of the Land Cruiser nor would I want to Off Road with a 60,000 vehicle. I think Toyota made the right decission with the IRS and lower center of gravity on the Sequoia.
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Re: 2008 Sequoia Poor Ground Clearance
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). I am sure both are great on snow covered roads and will be able to handle the fire trails to good camp sites. However, the Sequoia is bigger roomier and the IRS is probably pretty nice for daily driving purposes. Plus I have an FJ40 for my trail rig so I dont need the added ability of the Land Cruiser nor would I want to Off Road with a 60,000 vehicle. I think Toyota made the right decission with the IRS and lower center of gravity on the Sequoia.
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