Interior Mod:Toyota-Backup Camera & Drop down monitor,Alpine Rear Entertainment System(PKG-RSE2),Toyota/TRD--Sequoia Door Sill Protector,Toyota--Sports Pedal,TRD Japan shifter knob,Piaa super white LED 19263 interior map and dome lights
I did a Kelly Blue Book on all the vehicles w/ the following criteria-
2008
12k miles
2WD
Fully loaded
Excellent condition edmunds for 4WD
Decide for yourselves...
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New Ride 2008 White Sequoia SR5 4x4 5.7
Flowmaster 50 Series SUV
6000k HIDs Fog & Low Beam
OEM Reverse Camera
Projector Retro
SMD Leds
Airlift 1000 & Loadcontroller II
White Gauges & Silver Needles
Dealers use Galves, not edmunds, or kelly blue. Galves is true market value. An SR5 with 12,000 miles is worth $20,500, Limited $21,500, & platinum $22,500. A comparable Chevy Tahoe LT is worth $25,000.
So on trade in, only Galves is used and if a dealer uses one of the other internet based pricing sources, they most definetely are not showing you the dealer cash they have on the new vehicle just to make you think you're getting a good deal.
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08 Sequoia SR5, nautical blue, 5.7 V8, tow pkg
Dealers use Galves, not edmunds, or kelly blue. Galves is true market value. An SR5 with 12,000 miles is worth $20,500, Limited $21,500, & platinum $22,500. A comparable Chevy Tahoe LT is worth $25,000.
So on trade in, only Galves is used and if a dealer uses one of the other internet based pricing sources, they most definetely are not showing you the dealer cash they have on the new vehicle just to make you think you're getting a good deal.
You might want to check your figures again. I highly doubt that Galves lists a used Platinum 2008 Sequoia with 12K mikes at $22,500 and a comparable Tahoe (of which there isn't one) at $25,000. I think you used the wrong year or you've just finished one of those funny cigarettes.
You might want to check your figures again. I highly doubt that Galves lists a used Platinum 2008 Sequoia with 12K mikes at $22,500 and a comparable Tahoe (of which there isn't one) at $25,000. I think you used the wrong year or you've just finished one of those funny cigarettes.
All the Toyota Sequoia 2008 models are listed much lower in value than Chevy Tahoe & GMC Yukon. An LS Tahoe used with 12K bare bones is worth $23K, $500 more than a platinum Sequoia.
edmunds & KBB are unrealistic numbers, and no dealer uses them. Buy a 1 day subscription to Galves, ask a dealer for there copy. Galves updates pricing weekely.
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08 Sequoia SR5, nautical blue, 5.7 V8, tow pkg
All the Toyota Sequoia 2008 models are listed much lower in value than Chevy Tahoe & GMC Yukon. An LS Tahoe used with 12K bare bones is worth $23K, $500 more than a platinum Sequoia.
edmunds & KBB are unrealistic numbers, and no dealer uses them. Buy a 1 day subscription to Galves, ask a dealer for there copy. Galves updates pricing weekely.
I have been in car sales for 8 years, and this is the first time I have heard of Galves. I can tell you from experience, dealers still get the yellow NADA books and CDs every month, and when we question the values given, we put the VIN into an auction report, such as Manheim.
When they state on their website that 90% of dealers in the northeast use them, I take that as they either haven't done a good enough job the last 50 years to go nationwide, or they really only know values for that area.
You are correct in that we really do not used edmunds and KBB, except as reference points when customers bring them up. KBB is usually the closest to actual cash value of a vehicle, as long as it is described correctly.
__________________ Adam Dunker Internet Sales Manager
2007 CrewMax SR5 4x4 Slate Metallic, Headrest DVDs, Spray-in Liner, Bull Bar w/KC Titanium Driving Lights, Black Nerf Bars, 3" Toytec Lift, BF Goodrich T/A KO All Terrains, aFe Cold Air Intake, Gear Alloy Wheels, OEM Fender Flares, Pace Edwards Roll-Back Cover
All the Toyota Sequoia 2008 models are listed much lower in value than Chevy Tahoe & GMC Yukon. An LS Tahoe used with 12K bare bones is worth $23K, $500 more than a platinum Sequoia.
edmunds & KBB are unrealistic numbers, and no dealer uses them. Buy a 1 day subscription to Galves, ask a dealer for there copy. Galves updates pricing weekely.
I still say its wrong. You could sell a 2008 Platinum Sequoia for far more than a bare bones Tahoe, both with 12,000 miles. Far more...any day...any week...anywhere...any color...and interior...any region of the country...to anyone. No if, ands, or buts. You know it...I know it and any suv buying customer knows it. The only one that doesn't know it is your anti-consumer, pro-dealer subscription service that tries to slant the tables in favor of the dealership. Clearly wrong and clearly biased. And before you call me biased because I own a Sequoia you should know I've owned GMs all my life, including 3 Suburbans with my last suv being a Denali xl. So please don't tell me about Galves or resale values of GM suvs.
Btw what does your galves subscription say the retail price is for a dealer selling a 12,000 mile Tahoe vs a Platinum Sequoia?
Its no wonder dealers are putting themselves out of a job with that kind of nonsense. Not a one of them can even be remotely trusted and using this kind of data is just one more reason why I will never step foot in a dealership ever again when making a vehicle purchase. I've made my last 2 purchases with blind auctions by email to local dealerships in my area.
Its my way or the highway if they want access to my $ when buying a vehicle. Give me your best price in writing through email or don't bother responding. Those that want my business have a fair shot at offering me their best price. Those that don't should focus on the easy show room foot traffic "prey" AND plan on going out of business in the long run.
Dealerships are a dying breed on the verge of extinction as the entire industry will be selling through the internet in less than 5 years with "dealerships" only acting as service centers (which is where they make their money anyway).
On a separate note, given that they just announced GM sales were down 49%, the comparison may not even matter in the future as it may become difficult to even find a Tahoe.
How does the Denali XL compare to the Sequoia? I'm planning to buy another SUV?
It was an easy call for me to get the Sequoia as I had already owned a DXL and was on my 3rd Suburban. The Sequoia has the following features not available in the DXL:
more powerful
accelerates quicker
has a higher tow rating
has a rear independent suspension
significantly more 2nd row leg room (the Sequoia has adjustable sliding 2nd row seats that are not available in the Denali)
Fold flat 3rd row seat (electric or manual depending on the model)
Reclining 3rd row seats
Manumatic 6sp automatic
Drivetrain that includes 2wd, 4wd Hi (AWD), 4wd Hi with ctr differential locked, 4wd Lo, 4wd Lo with Ctr differential locked (the DXL only has AWD)
Storage trunk under the floor behind the 3rd row
The DXL has a longer wheel base and more storage space behind the 3rd row than the Sequoia.
Dealerships are a dying breed on the verge of extinction as the entire industry will be selling through the internet in less than 5 years with "dealerships" only acting as service centers (which is where they make their money anyway).
On a separate note, given that they just announced GM sales were down 49%, the comparison may not even matter in the future as it may become difficult to even find a Tahoe.
I'm not sure how you figure dealerships are a dying breed. At this time, only the strong will survive the decline in sales, and GM and Ford know this, as they are planning on reducing the amount of dealerships in their network. They would rather watch them fail than buy back the franchises first. You still need a dealership to purchase a car, as you cannot go straight through the manufacturer. As for service center making the profit for a dealership, that is only part correct. Used cars make more profit per vehicle and keeps many dealerships running.
Good for you for being an internet shopper, but you seem like one that doesn't test drive a vehicle before purchasing. Many people still like to do that before they actually sign on the dotted line, to make sure the vehicle fits right. I guess you could go to your local Wal-Mart and "just look" like many customers do on the lot, while also pulling on the door handles hoping one is open to jump in to. But you could get arrested for that when it is another person's vehicle.
__________________ Adam Dunker Internet Sales Manager
2007 CrewMax SR5 4x4 Slate Metallic, Headrest DVDs, Spray-in Liner, Bull Bar w/KC Titanium Driving Lights, Black Nerf Bars, 3" Toytec Lift, BF Goodrich T/A KO All Terrains, aFe Cold Air Intake, Gear Alloy Wheels, OEM Fender Flares, Pace Edwards Roll-Back Cover
I'm not sure how you figure dealerships are a dying breed. At this time, only the strong will survive the decline in sales, and GM and Ford know this, as they are planning on reducing the amount of dealerships in their network. They would rather watch them fail than buy back the franchises first. You still need a dealership to purchase a car, as you cannot go straight through the manufacturer. As for service center making the profit for a dealership, that is only part correct. Used cars make more profit per vehicle and keeps many dealerships running.
Good for you for being an internet shopper, but you seem like one that doesn't test drive a vehicle before purchasing. Many people still like to do that before they actually sign on the dotted line, to make sure the vehicle fits right. I guess you could go to your local Wal-Mart and "just look" like many customers do on the lot, while also pulling on the door handles hoping one is open to jump in to. But you could get arrested for that when it is another person's vehicle.
No disrespect meant as I certainly don't want or wish to see bread taken from another man's plate, but you must see what's going on in your own dealership. Its really just a matter of time before Internet competition for new car buyers makes the current dealership model not financially viable.
I really have no crystal ball to predict what the future holds for dealerships other than I am absolutely sure that they will be significantly different from what we are all accustom to. You simply can't have GM down 49%, Chrysler down nearly 60% etc etc. Its simply unsustainable and I'm afraid the volume will never come back for many years or even a decade to the levels we've recently experienced.
Too many people were accustomed to buying a new car smell every 36 months because they could use their home equity. All that equity is now gone and we will rotate back to a 7+ year cycle of buying new cars which is where we should have been all along since we were borrowing against equity that never really existed. Which is one of the reasons why so many people are now upside down on their home mortgages.
2000 dealerships will go out of business in the next 12 months or MORE. I can see a future where there are 6-7 service shops in a region that will also sell used cars and a single "Brand Showroom" to feed the "Service" dealerships in that particular region. Unfortunately by March/April 09 Chrysler will be gone. GM will likely have to declare bankruptcy by April/May and all the state laws that have protected the dealerships will no longer be in effect. Once bankruptcy has been declared, GM will withdraw hundreds if not more franchise agreements from across the country enabling them to dramatically reduce the number of showrooms.
These are all very painful measures but they are coming. Please don't shoot the messenger but these are outcomes that were set in motion decades ago by unions that sucked the very life out of these great companies and poor management that let it happen. I only wish it weren't so.
I agree with your circumstances leading up to what is happening now, but I do not agree with your assumption that Chrysler will go away. We do not want to see a big employer bite the dust. Why do you think the government stepped in to help them out? If a manufacturer goes out of business, you are not just costing jobs of the plant workers, you are costing jobs at parts suppliers and dealerships as well. It would be the single biggest job loss in history.
You are correct in that they are trying to reduce the number of dealerships, whereas to reduce the amount of inventory they have to produce. In the past, it has been more profitable to keep making vehicles, instead of shutting down plants when they really didn't need to build. They just couldn't afford to stop building them.
Dealerships have been changing their marketing strategy for years. Many dealers have embraced the Internet as the future, and have big Internet departments to handle it. But the dealership as we know it will not go anywhere.
__________________ Adam Dunker Internet Sales Manager
2007 CrewMax SR5 4x4 Slate Metallic, Headrest DVDs, Spray-in Liner, Bull Bar w/KC Titanium Driving Lights, Black Nerf Bars, 3" Toytec Lift, BF Goodrich T/A KO All Terrains, aFe Cold Air Intake, Gear Alloy Wheels, OEM Fender Flares, Pace Edwards Roll-Back Cover
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