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Raines124
01-19-2005, 03:40 PM
I have a 2003 2wd TRD Off Road and am looking to set up the suspension more for the street. I don't off road at all. I do tow from time to time. I have about 35k miles on the truck and the stock Bilsteins feel like they are blown. I have lowered the rear with Belltech shackels and the rear shocks seem to be bottoming out or I'm hitting my bumpstops. I'm just wondering if there are any coilovers that will work well without having to lift the truck. I love the stance of the truck now and would like to keep it that way. I don't mind a harsh ride. I just want the truck to handle more like my race civic.

crs1
01-19-2005, 06:06 PM
Check out sos performance, I think they have some stuff. Also, you can buy Eibach springs and rebuild the coils in front, I think you'll get like 1.5 inches lower...By the way, nice rims!

lindsley731
01-19-2005, 07:30 PM
Finally!!!!!!
Somone else interested in making a full size truck handle like a road machine :D I can get SOS to help you set up a watts link if you are interested in doing some serious modifying.
I am very interested in making my truck handle at higher performance levels:
Laguna Seca (http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841)

Love your Enkei's
~E

Raines124
01-20-2005, 02:13 AM
Eric,
I saw your truck and was thinking of doing the 4 link setup for the rear but I don't know how well it will hold up when I have to tow. I will be towing my Civic to the track and would like to run the Tundra while I am at the track also. By the way, your truck looks great. Could you post some pictures of your rear suspension setup on the truck. I am very interested. If it would be possible to tow with that setup, reliably, I may very well consider it. Thanks for the suggestion.

Kelly

atrdnut
01-20-2005, 05:39 AM
Chalk another TSer wanting to make his truck a lean mean street machine... :devil:

...just 12,000 more miles, then no warranty... but that's when the fun begins. :D

sprj8008
01-20-2005, 08:17 AM
Kelly,

I'm in a similar spot. I took the Belltech shakles out because I was on the bumpstops too much. This spring I'm going to install Rancho9000 shocks in the back. They're adjustable so I should be able to get a stiffer ride with the trailer and a fairly comfortable ride empty. I figure with the Helwig bar, new shocks and the stock springs I should end up with a flexible setup that handles well. If the load capacity is too low, I'll go with air assist for when the trailer is on. I don't see the value in re-building the rear end with a 5 bar at this time.

Jason

TruckGuy
01-20-2005, 10:27 AM
Finally!!!!!!
Somone else interested in making a full size truck handle like a road machine :D I can get SOS to help you set up a watts link if you are interested in doing some serious modifying.
I am very interested in making my truck handle at higher performance levels:
Laguna Seca (http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841)

Love your Enkei's
~E

"Laguna Seca" now thats an idea!... right now, have to settle with the 110 thru south Pasadena, and the 60 out in Banning is fun too...

All I need now is some kind of "Turbo" :D

lindsley731
01-20-2005, 10:29 AM
I would not tow with the 5-link setup the way I have it. I would want to fab up some coil over mounts first. We are using the shock mount pockets to mount the coilovers. They were never designed to hold the weight of the truck. With some fab time and skills we could make a tow-worthy 5-link. I took mine to Laguna Seca with the leaf springs and drop shackles and the truck outperformed everyones expectations. I would reccomend staying with them for towing.
That said, if you are still interested in doing something crazy I am always down to start a serious design/fab project.
At my last track day I saw three guys tow their cars in with Tundra's. I thought it would be sweet to tow in one of my buddies race cars, unhook it, and take the tow vehicle out on the track :D
I stuck a few suspension photos in my gallery (http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/27622)

Invid
01-20-2005, 04:17 PM
Well lindsley731 since this is a street setup thread and you've tested and installed many SOS components can you answer me this. If I choose to drop my rear 1/2 to 2 inches and left the front alone would that in itself alter the factory suspension geometry enough to give me problems? I like how my front sits but the back could use a little drop to give it a more streetable level stance. Thanks!

lindsley731
01-21-2005, 12:23 PM
Well lindsley731 since this is a street setup thread and you've tested and installed many SOS components can you answer me this. If I choose to drop my rear 1/2 to 2 inches and left the front alone would that in itself alter the factory suspension geometry enough to give me problems? I like how my front sits but the back could use a little drop to give it a more streetable level stance. Thanks!
Dropping the rear via longer shackles should not affect the suspension. It will put you closer to the bump stops so hauling heavy payloads may be an issue. You will lower the cg and improve the roll center. I drove at the track with the leaf springs and long shackles and the truck handled great. Still understeered, but it IS a truck. I have not towed or hauled loads with the drop shackles, so someone who has done that stuff should chime in.
~Eric

atrdnut
01-21-2005, 12:46 PM
...Still understeered, but it IS a truck...
I know many of you know the difference between understeer and oversteer, but I will post a graphic definition for those (like me) who may get the two types confused... for reference sake. :tu:

http://www.f1-country.com/f1-engineer/understeer.gif http://www.f1-country.com/f1-engineer/oversteer.gif

If front tires slip angle greater than the rear, the car then understeers.
If rear tires slip angle greater than the front, the car then oversteers.


Credit: www.f1-country.com

lmk if the pics are too big...