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Old 10-27-2003, 01:39 PM
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i see a LOT of people here talking about lifting their tundras... but not too many on the flip side of that coin. the lack of parts is probably a big reason... but there has to be a few here who have ventured out on their own and worked up SOMETHING to drop their trucks... anyone? (and no... leveling doesnt count)

to be honest, i have no clue what my tech is doing to my truck right now... but honestly, i dont care. the end result is going to be a 3/5 drop on a tundra access cab 2x4 v8. i will throw a few pics up hopefully if things go well. (fingers crossed)
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i see a LOT of people here talking about lifting their tundras... but not too many on the flip side of that coin. the lack of parts is probably a big reason... but there has to be a few here who have ventured out on their own and worked up SOMETHING to drop their trucks... anyone? (and no... leveling doesnt count)

to be honest, i have no clue what my tech is doing to my truck right now... but honestly, i dont care. the end result is going to be a 3/5 drop on a tundra access cab 2x4 v8. i will throw a few pics up hopefully if things go well. (fingers crossed)
men lift there trucks - to be able to do more things with them , like increased off-road prowess and somtimes to gain suspension travel and larger tires. NOT LARGER WHEELS lol

boys lower there trucks - to try to impress chicks by ripping your front bumper down the road while pulling out of a fast food joint or scraping your exhaust over every speed bump you cant see till its to late. just my 2 cents
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i dont agree with you, there are some really nice dropped rides out there, and with bags, some trucks ive ridden in ride 100% better than my stock tundra, and it rides good, so to each his own, some people just like their trucks in a different way, i personally am leaving mine stock and gettin somethin else for off-road, and maybe someday ill get a custom airbag suspension done on it, who knows, but i like the idea of dropping a tundra, check out NATIVE's pics, he has a sweet dropped tundra

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men lift there trucks - to be able to do more things with them , like increased off-road prowess and somtimes to gain suspension travel and larger tires. NOT LARGER WHEELS lol

boys lower there trucks - to try to impress chicks by ripping your front bumper down the road while pulling out of a fast food joint or scraping your exhaust over every speed bump you cant see till its to late. just my 2 cents
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Wes - I agree with you 100% but I have some bad news. Native's truck is no longer dropped. :cry: Too bad. It was a sweet ride. I think that he lifted back up to stock cause the ride he had from the prototype kit was crappy. Last I spoke to him, he was debating going either lowered or prerunner. But man when his ride was dropped, it made me wish I had the 2x4. Oh well, can spend just as much on my 4x4
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men lift there trucks - to be able to do more things with them , like increased off-road prowess and somtimes to gain suspension travel and larger tires. NOT LARGER WHEELS lol

boys lower there trucks - to try to impress chicks by ripping your front bumper down the road while pulling out of a fast food joint or scraping your exhaust over every speed bump you cant see till its to late. just my 2 cents

I don't see your logic. Your saying that when you lift your truck..lets say 10"... that you lifted it to do more things right? Well what more can you do with a high truck besides off-road? It be kinda tough to load anything heavy into the bed. You can't park in parking garages cuz the roof is too high. And washing it is just a really tough chore.

Now with a lowered truck, the olny thing you can't do is off-road. With the advanced "air" suspension systems out there, you can even tow or carry heavy loads and still not worry about scraping bumper. So the way I see it, the only advantages that us "lifted" guys have is to go off-roading.

Don't get me wrong, I too lifted my truck. But not so that I can do more things, I did it because I thought it makes the truck look better (and to impress chicks ). Just like dropping a truck. I've seen some rides that were dropped that I think are sweeter than most lifted trucks. It just depends on what the person's who owns the vehicle is looking for I guess (that and how deep your pockets are ).

I hope no one takes this personally, I just gotta give some of these dropped guys some props for some sweet rides.

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i totally agree with you, i have been looking for a drop kit for almost a year now and there is nothing out there. i even had the opportunity to speak with some of the reps from jdm. hochkis (not sure if spelled right) to name a few, and they all told me there is not enough demand out in the market. i know 3 guys right at my work place that drive tundras and they want to lower their trucks. i went to slam fest this year and i saw only 2 tundras not counting mine and one of them had bags. so whatever your tech does, please let us know and that would be cool if you can show us some pics. thanks for your time.
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i see a LOT of people here talking about lifting their tundras... but not too many on the flip side of that coin. the lack of parts is probably a big reason... but there has to be a few here who have ventured out on their own and worked up SOMETHING to drop their trucks... anyone? (and no... leveling doesnt count)

to be honest, i have no clue what my tech is doing to my truck right now... but honestly, i dont care. the end result is going to be a 3/5 drop on a tundra access cab 2x4 v8. i will throw a few pics up hopefully if things go well. (fingers crossed)
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men lift there trucks - to be able to do more things with them , like increased off-road prowess and somtimes to gain suspension travel and larger tires. NOT LARGER WHEELS lol

boys lower there trucks - to try to impress chicks by ripping your front bumper down the road while pulling out of a fast food joint or scraping your exhaust over every speed bump you cant see till its to late. just my 2 cents

ok... not to burst your bubble... but you are aware that lifting your truck does not necessarily make you better off-road, right?

and, i'll assume that you were sterotyping me into the group of babbling idiots that usually consist of an age group of 16-18 years old spending daddies money, that will scrape anything to the ground in order to "look cool", and dont care how they get it there. just so you understand, 1) i'm going to be 31 this year... 2) i do it for performance reasons... by the time i am done, not only will this truck look clean, but will probably give a good run, if not outrun, your basic lightning. dropped correctly = better handling, lower center of gravity, better cornering. (but the supercharger isnt going to hurt either) and 3) i loathe wheel well gap... and unless i decide to radius my fender lips a good three to four inches, there isnt a damn thing i can do about it, but drop it. i am also kicking in a bit for looks... hence, the 22" wheels, and a few other paint and body mods that are planned out for it.

dont get me wrong... i am not against lifting. my last vehicle was a 1999 suburban 4x4 with a 6" lift. and i loved that truck... but this one i have a lot different planned for it. i like vehicles of all shapes and sizes, and respect anything that someone has taken the time and effort to make look nice, or useful. the only types of people/vehicles i hate, are the idiots that think the best accessories can be purchased from the local pep boys, and that their suzuki swift looks phat as hell with a 12" aluminum wing, and 13" chrome hubcaps. seriously... that stainless steel borla exhaust is not going to add that much horsepower to a pinto... why do it?

extremetundra... i will definitely be posting pics soon after i get it back tomorrow. the owner of the company i work for (nitza alloys, among others) wants to get some decent ones for an ad in the sema handout that we are doing. its always good to throw in a vehicle that will either spark interest, or is not too common... i think a severely modified tundra would fit into the "not too common" category.... and although it wont be fully ready, i can photoshop out what i want gone from the pic. (ie - the stock nerf bars that i havent had a chance to ditch yet, still havent gotten a rollpan, or debadged it)
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I dont get why you guys are fussing over opinion here. The men/boys thing is just your opinion. I cant see myself driving a lowered truck, but thats just me. I can totally see why people slam their trucks, cause they want to!

I guess Toyota makes more of an off-road based truck w/ the tacoma/ tundra. I dont really like asian trucks lowered cause they just dont look good, unless they are totally tricked out, shaved, cuatom painted, and them some.
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I dont get why you guys are fussing over opinion here. The men/boys thing is just your opinion. I cant see myself driving a lowered truck, but thats just me. I can totally see why people slam their trucks, cause they want to!

I guess Toyota makes more of an off-road based truck w/ the tacoma/ tundra. I dont really like asian trucks lowered cause they just dont look good, unless they are totally tricked out, shaved, cuatom painted, and them some.
i agree to an extent... i am not too fond of mini trucks, but its more personal taste than anything else. and yes... i think toyota gears their trucks (not literally "geared") more towards the offroad crowd than the street rodders and customizers... but then again, that is what i love about this truck.... what i have planned for it, will not exactly be a "never been done before" type of thing... but it will be on the opposite end of the scale from the typical tricked out f150 / silverado that you cant help but see at least 20 of on the way home from the office everyday.


just to clarify though... i am lowering this truck... not slamming it by any means. its just going to be a 3/5 drop... just give it a nice stance on the ground. slammed, more along the lines of scraping frame, would be at least a 6/8 drop.... which would be an impossiblity to do with 22's unless i just gutted the truck, caster/camber kits, and tubbed it to sit flat enough on the tires so they wouldnt scrape.... but eating through a $1500 set of tires every other week isnt my cup of tea.
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i agree to an extent... i am not too fond of mini trucks, but its more personal taste than anything else. and yes... i think toyota gears their trucks (not literally "geared") more towards the offroad crowd than the street rodders and customizers... but then again, that is what i love about this truck.... what i have planned for it, will not exactly be a "never been done before" type of thing... but it will be on the opposite end of the scale from the typical tricked out f150 / silverado that you cant help but see at least 20 of on the way home from the office everyday.


just to clarify though... i am lowering this truck... not slamming it by any means. its just going to be a 3/5 drop... just give it a nice stance on the ground. slammed, more along the lines of scraping frame, would be at least a 6/8 drop.... which would be an impossiblity to do with 22's unless i just gutted the truck, caster/camber kits, and tubbed it to sit flat enough on the tires so they wouldnt scrape.... but eating through a $1500 set of tires every other week isnt my cup of tea.
sounds good, is it a custom drop?
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yes... i, like what i have seen from everyone else, wasnt able to find parts to just do a swap out drop kit. i am having a few parts manufactured... but honestly, i couldnt tell you what. i am entrusting it to one of my buddies that owns cutten customs in houston... he has made some of the most amazing vehicles i have ever seen, and honestly, this is a walk in the park for him. the rear of the truck wasnt too much of a problem (i believe he just did a flip kit/block, but not positive yet) the front was the hard part... but he is almost done. will have pics and details (as much as possible at least) hopefully tomorrow for everyone that is interested.
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whens it gonna be done?

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hey ease up there guys - i was just busstin your balls a little. ok 1st off im from n.y. not cali so i hardly ever see a lowered truck here- hell for that matter i hardly ever see a two wheel drive truck at all "central n.y. snow belt region" 2nd lowered for performance is way cool - but for cosmetic reasons is not cool at all - micro i own a 03 4x4 with a trd blower on it and let me tell you ,you will have to do much MUCH MUCH more to your rig to go up against a 03 svt lightning. anyways if you lower your rig and build it for speed and handling im all for it. i did not mean to stero type you at all - sorry if i came off as ignorant. by the way micro how do you intend to beat a svt? im askin cause id love to do the same
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beat an svt? easy.... know how to rip your engine apart?

its still in planning, but within the next 6 months, it will be fully rebuilt and thrown into a fairly larger pool of fish. heads, bore, valves, intake, supercharger, and MAYBE a small shot nos... but not positive yet. it can be done though. i wont be the first either.



anyway.... drop is done. handling has gone THROUGH THE ROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the entire way home was spent taking as many windy backroads as i could find.... and i can manage a 90 degree stop sign on a 2 lane with median road at about 50mph without missing a beat or hearing the slightest wimper from the tires. i went ahead and threw together two sets of wheels... one set with 265/40r22 toyo proxes for basic everyday driving, and a set with a staggered 265/35/22 front, and 295/30/22 rear pirelli p-zero's. (the pzero is what i drove home, although i bet the toyo could probably manage the same... just a little more flexible sidewall)

it rides a little stiffer than i am used to... i may take it back to him to play with the shocks a little next week... but for now, i am extremely happy. the first phase of the transformation is almost complete.... now to debadge, rip off the siderails and fender trim... and i should be good for a while. by the way... if anyone wants to buy a set of stock siderails off a 2003, let me know. they are the machined and black finish.

the pics are with the toyos which i changed out as soon as i got home. its dark here, and the streetlight down the road from my house was the closest thing i could get to make the pic come out halfway decent. its a little misleading, as it is on a serious slope in the street... but you should be able to get the idea. measured off exactly, the front end came down 2 3/4", and the rear is exactly 4 7/8". new parts though... so it will most likely settle a bit.

for those that want to know what was done........... i cant tell you. glen, the mastermind behind it all, hauled *** before i got there to pick up the truck, and i cant see a damned thing under the truck (mainly because its dark, but also because i am not quite sure what he did to accomplish it.) ... i will get details and better pics tomorrow or thursday (have meetings all day tomorrow, schedule is tight... but i will try)

i think one of the mods edited the last post i made with images and the size... so i will just throw links this time. again... better, and more, pics coming soon.

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thats bomb!

Oh yeah, just a heads up for you-

The side rails(body side molding) cant be used again if its even the slightist bent. I tryed to sell mine when I took them off and they wont satuy on another truck.
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