A Buddy of mine (Sean Morgan) started making phenolic spacers for the sport compact scene a few years ago and come to find out he's doing pretty well. I had a set installed on my Probe GT back when they first came out. There was a noticeable difference in throttle response and intake manifold temperatures. Which in turn upped the HP. I just contacted him to see if he would be interested in doing a set of spacers for the V8 Tundra. If any of you are interested please check out the site and let me know if it is something you would want to be apart of. He used to live down here in San Diego but he's since moved to Indianapolis.
check it out www.outlawengineering.com
Interesting. Wish he had more than just the one set of dynos though, but even that one is fairly impressive.
Any tolerance issues? Replacing a 0.025" gasket with a 0.25" phenolic block may not seem like much, but that can be a fairly significant displacement.
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I never had anything bad happen to my car. Nor has anyone else that has them installed. my other car club www.probetalk.com
stands by Sean because he is a member and our friend.
so it would be nice to see a Tundra with a set of these, I know you guys would up some demand if there were some legitimate gains to be had.
What's a ballpark price on these? I know it'll depend on how much work it takes to make a set for the Tundra, if he even makes any, but just curious what the typical price is...
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Rhino Lining, Waag one piece grille guard and wheel to wheel nerf bars, 3M Xpel on headlights, front corner lights, and foglights, Valentine One radar detector, XM Satellite radio, Navigon 7100 GPS, Lightforce 240 Blitz aux lights, Aux. reverse lights.
AEM Brute force intake, courtesy of AEM Power and TundraSolutions.com
Teamwest Coilovers, Camburg Upper A arms, Daystar Steering Rack Bushings, Total Chaos Diff Drop spacer, JBA Headers, Y-Pipe, and EVOL exhaust.
Pricing for a set, including intake manifold and throttle body insulators along with necessary hardware such as lengthened studs would be in the $100 or less range.
Rhino Lining, Waag one piece grille guard and wheel to wheel nerf bars, 3M Xpel on headlights, front corner lights, and foglights, Valentine One radar detector, XM Satellite radio, Navigon 7100 GPS, Lightforce 240 Blitz aux lights, Aux. reverse lights.
AEM Brute force intake, courtesy of AEM Power and TundraSolutions.com
Teamwest Coilovers, Camburg Upper A arms, Daystar Steering Rack Bushings, Total Chaos Diff Drop spacer, JBA Headers, Y-Pipe, and EVOL exhaust.
I just heard back from my friend Sean (owner of Outlaw Engineering)
He says we need get some more people interested in this product.
I dont think it will be that hard but hey this post didnt get very many replies. If you are interested in getting this product made for our Tundras reply here and help spread the word.
Thanks.
the benefit to this isn't that it'll necessarily give you more power, it'll let you keep at the end of the day more of what you started with when the intake was cool.
this could be a very good modification for anyone who spends a lot of time at the track, or a lot of time in 4lo in the hot sun.
i am also very curious about this idea of increased air volume in the intake manifold, i'm not inclined to think that'll make a difference, anyone have any input?
i am also very curious about this idea of increased air volume in the intake manifold, i'm not inclined to think that'll make a difference, anyone have any input?
Isn't that like the throttle body spacer effect? Which the majority opinion seems to say doesn't help...
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Rhino Lining, Waag one piece grille guard and wheel to wheel nerf bars, 3M Xpel on headlights, front corner lights, and foglights, Valentine One radar detector, XM Satellite radio, Navigon 7100 GPS, Lightforce 240 Blitz aux lights, Aux. reverse lights.
AEM Brute force intake, courtesy of AEM Power and TundraSolutions.com
Teamwest Coilovers, Camburg Upper A arms, Daystar Steering Rack Bushings, Total Chaos Diff Drop spacer, JBA Headers, Y-Pipe, and EVOL exhaust.
its not only the increased air flow or volume, its the density of air flow. by keeping the air intake charge cooler(more dense) before it gets to the combustion chamber it helps to increase HP/TQ. (the reason most of you put an air intake kit on your truck, cooler air.
the HELIX TB spacer doesnt isolate the heat like a phenolic spacer would. the thickness is important because the more insulation you have between the two parts(tb/IM) the cooler the TB will be. thus helping to keep the air cool as it reaches the intake. same idea as the IM spacer.
Isn't that like the throttle body spacer effect? Which the majority opinion seems to say doesn't help...
yes, that's correct. id be hard pressed to believe that more air space = more torque, but i'm willing to consider that an insulated intake manifold will decrease the power loss in an engine that's idling or running hot without much air flow over the engine.
Outlaw Engineering Phenolic Spacers?
, and he is always gettin compliments from ladies at school on his truck.
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