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I'm from Laredo, Texas I have been reading the forums and I love everyone's feedback and comments and suggestions. This is a real good community...

I just bought a 4x2 Tundra Double Cab SR5 V8

I want to level the truck to an equal stance, I have read alot about Cornfeds and also seen countless times as being referred to wheelers.

I have about 900 dollars to spend and I like to know what would you all recommend to get. I don't go offroading and I mainly just up and back to work. I don't want a stiff tundra, I want a smooth ride. I don't want my truck to clunk when I go through the potholes

I'm new to this lifting leveling thing, the truck has some 275/70/17 DISCOVER ATR tires and they are brand new, it lifted the truck a bit, but I want it level... Any suggestions or help as to what I might need to get....


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Props to this Community, I have started to Mod my truck but stuck in this one... with so many lift kits or leveling kits out there!
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i personally would go with a coilover lift.
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i personally would go with a coilover lift.

Thanks, I was thinking of that!

After sorting all of this, I was thinking of going with the Wheelers coilovers, but I didn't know what to go with since their are too many kits out there! Thanks for your response !
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extamukrunner,

I have already ordered a set of Wheeler's Coil and will install it soon. From other threads I have read, Wheeler's Coil will level your 4x2 and the 4x4's and still give you a comfortable ride. That was one of the reasons I decided to go with the Coils from Wheeler's.

Coilovers are the best types of lift if you plan on doing some major offroading. Do some searching for types of lift and you will have plenty to read up on regarding lifts.

If you want to see what it might look like for your truck, search for TundraFire's photo gallery of his Tundra Dcab 4x4 with Wheeler's Coil.

Could you post pictures of your truck? I am curious to see what the Tundra Dcab looks like with 275/70/17 tires. I plan on putting larger tires and that size is on my list of potential tire sizes.
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I have already ordered a set of Wheeler's Coil and will install it soon. From other threads I have read, Wheeler's Coil will level your 4x2 and the 4x4's and still give you a comfortable ride. That was one of the reasons I decided to go with the Coils from Wheeler's.

Coilovers are the best types of lift if you plan on doing some major offroading. Do some searching for types of lift and you will have plenty to read up on regarding lifts.

If you want to see what it might look like for your truck, search for TundraFire's photo gallery of his Tundra Dcab 4x4 with Wheeler's Coil.

Could you post pictures of your truck? I am curious to see what the Tundra Dcab looks like with 275/70/17 tires. I plan on putting larger tires and that size is on my list of potential tire sizes.
I'll take pics tommorrow, and post them or send them to you! Thanks for your response,
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Out of these three sets which one would you recommend? Do I just need the first one to level it off or do I need AAL Kit for the rear or the block one?

Wheeler's Coils Assembled on a pair of Tokico Sport Shocks with a pair of Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks: 655


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Wheeler's Coils Assembled on a pair of Tokico Sport Shocks with a Lift Enhancement Kit (gives approx 2.25" of front lift total) and a pair of Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks with an Add A Leaf Kit for the Rear: 809


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Wheeler's Coils Assembled on a pair of Tokico Sport Shocks with a Lift Enhancement Kit (gives approx 2.25" of front lift total) and a pair of Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks with a 1" Black Anodized Billet Aluminum Block Kit for the Rear: 790.00
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Out of these three sets which one would you recommend? Do I just need the first one to level it off or do I need AAL Kit for the rear or the block one?

Wheeler's Coils Assembled on a pair of Tokico Sport Shocks with a pair of Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks: 655


and

Wheeler's Coils Assembled on a pair of Tokico Sport Shocks with a Lift Enhancement Kit (gives approx 2.25" of front lift total) and a pair of Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks with an Add A Leaf Kit for the Rear: 809


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Wheeler's Coils Assembled on a pair of Tokico Sport Shocks with a Lift Enhancement Kit (gives approx 2.25" of front lift total) and a pair of Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks with a 1" Black Anodized Billet Aluminum Block Kit for the Rear: 790.00

I ordered package #3 without the AALs. The rear AALs are from another company. The lift will give me about 2.25 inches of inch in front. Which means the back will still be slightly higher than the front by less than .5 inch. My overall goal with the lift is to retain the factory load leveling stance of the front lower than the rear in case I haul some heavy loads, but to make the truck sit higher overall. With the custom AALs that is supposed to lift the rear 2.5 inches, the resulting lift should accomplish that.

In your case, since your truck is a 4x2, from what I have read the Wheeler's Coil should lift your front end more that the 1.75 inches. Without knowing the height difference of your Tundra. By installing just the Coils w/ either your stock shocks or the Tokico Sports - your truck should be pretty much at a level stance. If that is your goal of lifting your truck, the rear blocks or the AALs are not necessary. In regards to the rear shocks - Blisten 5100 - they will give you a slightly firmer ride. It is up to you if that is what you want.

Please keep in mind that this is not from personal experience, but from other people's experiences and reading as much as I can on different suspension lifts on this forum.

I plan on installing the lift kit this Saturday and I will let you know the resulting lift and ride comfort level and take some pictures as well and post them.

Okay, on to my recommendations.

My recommendation on the different packages from Wheeler's all depends on what you want your lift to look like. If you want a level stance, Wheeler's coil with or without the Tokico Sport shocks will do the job - the rear shock is optional. If you want to lift the truck overall, you can't go wrong with the other packages. The difference between the AALs and blocks is the AALs will provide a slightly firmer ride than stock. If you want to retain your factory ride - blocks will be the choice. If you plan on lifting the rear, It is recommend to use longer shocks like the Blisten 5100 for improve flex.

I hope my recommendations helps you out. You should give Gary at Wheeler's a call or email him, he is pretty good at returning emails and ask for his opinion on his lift package.

Good luck!
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Gary recommended me the Revtek 2.5" lift ...

He said the wheeler's coils are only for 4x4's. Hence my truck is a 4 x 2 ... he said he has some front coils adjustables...


Thanks, ssblitz

I guess I'm gonna shoot for the RevTek Lift Kit...
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Gary recommended me the Revtek 2.5" lift ...

He said the wheeler's coils are only for 4x4's. Hence my truck is a 4 x 2 ... he said he has some front coils adjustables...


Thanks, ssblitz

I guess I'm gonna shoot for the RevTek Lift Kit...
he told you that becouse it will ruin you ride very stiff,
the spacer in the front is all you need i did a 2 inch lift in front, iwould have lifted it 2,5 but my lid drops my rear nearly an inch i did tuff country 2 inch $139 and a set of bilstiens
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extamukrunner,

I have talked with Jason at wheelers and he said that the wheelers coils would work great on my 05 TRD DC. Curious as to why I was told they would work great for my application and you were told differently? Only thing I can figure is going from a non-trd to wheelers is a little more drastic than going from a trd to wheelers.

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coryrogers,

I have the Wheeler's Coil on my non-TRD 04 DC for two weeks now and the ride I feel is better than stock ride. The ride is not stiff at all and it does not bounce around alot when I hit big bumps. Perhaps the Tokico Sport Shocks does a good job at controlling the springs? With this new spring setup, I do not hear the clunk (which I know is coming somewhere from the driver side) anymore.

My DC is a 4x4. That may factor into why my move from non-TRD suspension to Wheeler's Coil setup is not as stiff or rough of a ride.

Just my thoughts.
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ssblitz,

Your lift looks great. I agree with your reasoning as well. In a couple weeks I am gonna double check with Jason at wheelers and ensure its ok to put these on a 4x2(forgot to mention that part in my first post). If so, I am gonna pick up a pair.
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I've heard you can use 4x4 coils to lift your 4x2....
I've always wondered if it's possible to get a little bit more lift out of the truck by going with my 2.5" spacer kit on some 4x4 coils(or wheelers coils) and get 3.5" of lift. at that point I'ed need UCAs I suppose.


If you want your truck LEVEL I would not put an aal or a block in the back. the front is about 2.5" lower than the rear....lift it 2.5" in the front and you'll be level!
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With $900 to spend, you've got quite a few choices. More than I can mention here. IMHO though, with consideration to the fact that all you're wanting to do is "level" your DC, a full-blown coilover lift would be a waist of that money! Especially since you have a 2WD model. If your truck were 4WD, well... "maybe".

In any case, (UsE_To_RoCk) is right about the "coils" from a stock 4WD. They will effectively "level" your DC, without spending all that cash, which would leave you plenty of room, to get a new set of wheels, tires, extra. In my case, I chose THESE. These coils were "designed" to work with either your stock front shocks or any aftermarket replacements and they're "matched" too, which means there's one set up for the driver's side and the other is set up for the passenger side of the truck. Quite a bit of R&D has gone into these coil and they have specific applications for both 2 & 4WD models. Another TS.com member (tundrafire) has already placed a set of these on his DC. Here's a BEFORE and AFTER of his DC using these coils. Although his truck is 4WD, it's otherwise stock in these photos, so at the least, it'll give you some idea as to what you can expect, with these coils on your DC.

Hope this helps...
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Thanks for all the replies and your valuable information! You guys are the best! I mean no mechanic in town knows shoot about this..... And you guys analyze this, like your in a bio lab.

I haven't done anything to my truck, due to waiting for my paycheck, as soon as I get it, I'm in mod fever thanks guys!
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