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This is a discussion thread titled "new rear leaf springs for Tundra", within the Suspension & Axle forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
been thinking about getting some new spring in my step... trying to decide if its worth it. i keep looking at alcans or something similar (airbags maybe). i want to add some preload... i have a leer shell, roof basket, amps etc. im thinking if i just atleast compensate for the added weight of the shell and things i carry full time.. then the 150-200 pounds of wheeling/camping crap i take... wont be such a big diffrence.
what im curious about is do the AAL's i already have basically do a bit of this preload for me already? i love the way the truck rides now... i just dips a bit harder with all the gear in it.
the truck is only really used for trails and such... not rock climbing.
You might as well get new springs. You're on a roll with your truck. Also, what's for this week, you, paige and sydney available?
Tedd,
Do you know if the 63" chevy rear springs has the same load capacity as the tundras. I'm thinking of replacing my springs with the 63" chevies from a 4x4. Same width and length as the tundras but, not sure if the center location is the same.
really seem to get more squatting with a load than i used to. dont want to change the daily ride much... possible my leafs are less sprung than they used to be?? i have taken a couple HEAVY loads of wood and rock in the past 12 months.
[quote=dyogim]You're on a roll with your truck. Also, what's for this week, you, paige and sydney available?
QUOTE] i got the "just do it" from paige. i think she might soon regret that comment i think we are around wed or thur.. let me check with pauge tonight
__________________ 2001 Tundra Limited 4x4 TRD
Suspension:fabtech performance coilovers (front), Alcans, Bilstien 5150's and Airlft Air bags (rear) Tire & Wheel:American Eagle 187's (16x8 w/4" bs) and Bridgestone Dueler Revos. Axle:4:56's w/ lock-rite (front) and TrueTrac (rear) Protection:bent-up sliders, front bumper, rear bumper w/tire carrier, skid row front and diff plate. Body:Leer shell w/ custom Aluminum rack towers, BVG basket, lights, axe/shovel carrier and cargo bag; 3" body lift Electonics:Complete stereo: Alpine, JL (speakers and amps), dampning. Computer w/ GPS, Topo maps, 8000+ MP3's, video, Wifi, WLan, touchscreen To do:Camera system (axle, nose, rear and action views) with dedicated recording to mpeg via computer; dual battery; custom floor console for switches and camera control.
been thinking about getting some new spring in my step... trying to decide if its worth it. i keep looking at alcans or something similar (airbags maybe).
I think you would want to stay away from air bags due to articulation of the rear while off-roading. If your truck was pure street, I would say that would be a good option.
Since you routinely carry more weight on the back of your truck due the shell and so forth, I would suggest new springs. Find out which company will work with you and will make a custom set for your specific needs.
OK, that's 3 responses.
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My daily driver - 2008 Yaris sedan 'S'. Tinted windows in the rear, TRD anti-sway bar for the rear, 17" rims - Samurai SC02 Hyper Black. TRD lowering springs.
My favorite ride - a 2001 SR5 4x4. With - RCD 6" lift, JBA Titanium coated headers, JBA y-pipe, Unichip PnP, ARB rd-129 air locker (rear), Camburg UCA's, custom front Sway-A-Way coilovers, custom Sway-A-Way's with remote reservoirs and billet mounts for the hind-quarters, PolyPerformance limit straps with adjustable clevis's - mounts welded up by AJ at BentUp.com, Stubbs Welding rock sliders and custom front skid plate, 315/75/16 Toyo Open Country M/T's, on all 4 corners wrapped around 16x8 MB Motoring Blitz rims, cryo'd 4.88's set up by Inchworm Gear, Trenz billet grill upper, T-Rex billet grill lower, on board VI-AIR aircompressor and 3 gallon air tank from Wheelers Off-Road, Inc, AutoMeter A-pillar pod with transmission temp gauge (sending unit in the tranny pan), Long Tru-Cool LPD tranny cooler, 10" Flex-a-Lite tranny cooler fan w/thermostat, TRD billet oil filler cap, TRD air filter, TRD dual exhaust, and TRD add-a-leaf rear springs. Superlift TruSpeed Speedometer Recalibrator. Warn Trans4mer Grill Guard, brush guard and 9.5ti winch w/cover. Budbuilt traction bar. Wheelers Off Road Centric performance brake rotors: cross-drilled and slotted. Staun tyre deflators set for 13 psi. Our home away from home, 2004 Outback 26RS travel trailer with 15" MB Motoring Blitz rims to match the Tundra.
one of the downsides to aal is youve added a new+stiff leaf to a worn-in pack, so the aal takes all the heat at first and fatigues faster than it should.
if you put a lot of stuff in the bed and then go drive around, i'd highly recommend a new pack. deaver can build a progressive pack (bill west can explain more, and jjc is using his old deaver pack), and alcan can put together a great pack intended for whatever target payload you figure you'll carry. with a new pack, you definately have to load the springs a lot and often before theyll settle down and not make you feel like your teeth are falling out.
I would just buy my custom Deaver 11-pack from me so I can get some new ones - just kidding, I can't afford the new ones now that I'm considering buying Staun internal beadlocks. I do vote for Deavers though, they are very nice - but I would recommend the 11-pack over the standard 10-pack any day of the week, especially if you ever are going to haul, add a topper or hard bed cover, etc.... I am running Alcans on the front and Deavers on the rear and I actually like both sets and both shops so it's a split decision for me !
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2001 TRD 4x4 with a lift kit & a bone stock 2008 TRD 4x4
one of the downsides to aal is youve added a new+stiff leaf to a worn-in pack, so the aal takes all the heat at first and fatigues faster than it should.
if you put a lot of stuff in the bed and then go drive around, i'd highly recommend a new pack. deaver can build a progressive pack (bill west can explain more, and jjc is using his old deaver pack), and alcan can put together a great pack intended for whatever target payload you figure you'll carry. with a new pack, you definately have to load the springs a lot and often before theyll settle down and not make you feel like your teeth are falling out.
-sean
you are very close, but I actually had a new set built identical to Bill's and they rock.
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2001 TRD 4x4 with a lift kit & a bone stock 2008 TRD 4x4
I would just buy my custom Deaver 11-pack from me so I can get some new ones - just kidding, I can't afford the new ones now that I'm considering buying Staun internal beadlocks. I do vote for Deavers though, they are very nice - but I would recommend the 11-pack over the standard 10-pack any day of the week, especially if you ever are going to haul, add a topper or hard bed cover, etc.... I am running Alcans on the front and Deavers on the rear and I actually like both sets and both shops so it's a split decision for me !
what does a set go for .. either company....im thinking 3-400??
__________________ 2001 Tundra Limited 4x4 TRD
Suspension:fabtech performance coilovers (front), Alcans, Bilstien 5150's and Airlft Air bags (rear) Tire & Wheel:American Eagle 187's (16x8 w/4" bs) and Bridgestone Dueler Revos. Axle:4:56's w/ lock-rite (front) and TrueTrac (rear) Protection:bent-up sliders, front bumper, rear bumper w/tire carrier, skid row front and diff plate. Body:Leer shell w/ custom Aluminum rack towers, BVG basket, lights, axe/shovel carrier and cargo bag; 3" body lift Electonics:Complete stereo: Alpine, JL (speakers and amps), dampning. Computer w/ GPS, Topo maps, 8000+ MP3's, video, Wifi, WLan, touchscreen To do:Camera system (axle, nose, rear and action views) with dedicated recording to mpeg via computer; dual battery; custom floor console for switches and camera control.
what does a set go for .. either company....im thinking 3-400??
Well my friend, there in lies the problem .....steel prices have escalated sooooo bad that the last time I checked Deaver quoted my close to $700 to build another rear set of springs identical to mine but with an additional 2" of lift ! You may want to call them to confirm, but I remember paying at least $600 for mine two years ago. My Alcans for the front were around $600 also.
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2001 TRD 4x4 with a lift kit & a bone stock 2008 TRD 4x4
Here is another option for you. I took the rig to the deaver shop (down in anaheim area) and they built a custom hybrid pack with the stock Tun leafs and some of theirs. Took about 3 hours and was only around $400
Of course that means you need to come down here to get it done and since you'll be in the neighborhood..............you can save a bunch of $$ on shipping costs for your bumper.
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now that is actually a really good idea. is using the 85K mile leaf pack that is there now and new leafs a kosher idea though?
lol now i have to figure the gas mileage and see if i would actually save money... seeing as though im only getting 9-10 mpg these days! i have to say gas mileage is the ONLY thing i dont like about my tundra
__________________ 2001 Tundra Limited 4x4 TRD
Suspension:fabtech performance coilovers (front), Alcans, Bilstien 5150's and Airlft Air bags (rear) Tire & Wheel:American Eagle 187's (16x8 w/4" bs) and Bridgestone Dueler Revos. Axle:4:56's w/ lock-rite (front) and TrueTrac (rear) Protection:bent-up sliders, front bumper, rear bumper w/tire carrier, skid row front and diff plate. Body:Leer shell w/ custom Aluminum rack towers, BVG basket, lights, axe/shovel carrier and cargo bag; 3" body lift Electonics:Complete stereo: Alpine, JL (speakers and amps), dampning. Computer w/ GPS, Topo maps, 8000+ MP3's, video, Wifi, WLan, touchscreen To do:Camera system (axle, nose, rear and action views) with dedicated recording to mpeg via computer; dual battery; custom floor console for switches and camera control.
now that is actually a really good idea. is using the 85K mile leaf pack that is there now and new leafs a kosher idea though?
lol now i have to figure the gas mileage and see if i would actually save money... seeing as though im only getting 9-10 mpg these days! i have to say gas mileage is the ONLY thing i dont like about my tundra
Another possible option for you rear leafs, are swapping to 63" chevy 3/4 ton leaf springs. The 3/4 tons have 4 leafs + overload, 1/2 ton have 3 leafs +overload. The kicker for me, I was able to get a set with an aal. I hope this set-up does not stiffen the ride up too much. Hopefully, the bushings come in by this friday and I'll be doing the swap this weekend. I will need to drill a hole further back on my spring pad as the center pin on the chevys sit further back than the tundra.
Also, the major modifcation you'd need to do is change your rear leaf spring mount. For the $300-$400 you are looking for, this might be a good option. I'll post up on another thread once I do the swap or I can give you a call when the swap takes place.
I got the chevy springs for $60+ammo can+5 gallon gas can(you can get the 63" chevies for $100 from yards or on pirate4x4.com), poly bushing kit for $55, about $5 for new bolts & nuts to use for the centerpins.
new rear leaf springs for Tundra
i think we are around wed or thur.. let me check with pauge tonight
- just kidding, I can't afford the new ones now that I'm considering buying Staun internal beadlocks. I do vote for Deavers though, they are very nice 
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! You may want to call them to confirm, but I remember paying at least $600 for mine two years ago. My Alcans for the front were around $600 also.
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