I am looking at a pair shocks off of a Ivan Stuart Truck.
Red / Blue Bilsteins TRD PT # 945B56025MO. Anybody know what these compare to. I am looking for the stiffer ride of the Red / Blues talked about in this thread. May be able to get a deal on these, they're slightly used. WHAT DO THEY RIDE LIKE???
ANYONE KNOW?????
Thanks for the help.
JANDA
red/blue shocks are little stiffer and quicker on the recoil then the yellow/blue shocks. Less nose dive on hard braking, less body roll in turns. Tames the "float" of the yellow/blue shocks.
Originally posted by openspaces I have a question regarding the different shocks. I have 2002 access cab V8 4x4 TRD. I just bought the red/blue shocks. First question...
What are the differences in the spring rates between the TRD package and the Ivan Stewart?
Secondly I'm assuming the red/blue will slightly lift the truck both front and rear. Assuming I only replace the front with the red/blue and leave the back yellow/blue will the truck be level. More importantly will the handling be adversly affected?
Third if I replace all the shocks with red/blue how big a spacer would I need to level the truck? I would prefer to avoid cornfed and just use a spacer outside the coil pack as I'm not sure I want to put additional preload on the spring.
IS models do not include different springs, unless this is new in the '03 model year. I did not notice any difference in height between the red/blue and yellow/blue shocks.
If i have a stock tundra 2wd without the trd package and i install the red/blue trd billstein shocks alone will that lift my truck? how much? can i reuse the stock/original coil springs?
Originally posted by drockthethug If i have a stock tundra 2wd without the trd package and i install the red/blue trd billstein shocks alone will that lift my truck? how much? can i reuse the stock/original coil springs?
The shocks alone will not raise your truck. Larger springs or spacers will give you a lift. If you put on the red/blus, yes you can reuse the stock springs.
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Originally posted by drockthethug If i have a stock tundra 2wd without the trd package and i install the red/blue trd billstein shocks alone will that lift my truck? how much? can i reuse the stock/original coil springs?
That is exactly what I had. I could not stand the soft shocks for more than 425 miles So I got the red/blue HD Bilestin and installed them with the stock springs. The truck lifted its nose up foront and it is almost level. Looks much better than before and handles a 100 times better.
Originally posted by SATundra The shocks alone will not raise your truck. Larger springs or spacers will give you a lift. If you put on the red/blus, yes you can reuse the stock springs.
Let me add to this, shocks are not like springs. Springs support the weight of the vehicle and shocks dampen the the spring jiggles. Does not matter how hard of a dampening shock you get it will not lift your truck.
The shock does raise by itself if compressed then let go. But if you put your weight on it and stay on it, it doesn't push you back up unless you let go of it. If it couldn't lift your own weight how does it lift the truck which is well over 1,000lbs on each corner?
It must be all in your head.
Originally posted by ricqik The shock does raise by itself if compressed then let go. But if you put your weight on it and stay on it, it doesn't push you back up unless you let go of it. If it couldn't lift your own weight how does it lift the truck which is well over 1,000lbs on each corner?
It must be all in your head.
Hmmm. What are they teaching kids in school these days?
Can you lift the corner of your truck up 1/4"-1/2" by pulling up on the bumper or fender lip? I can. Am I lifting 1000 pounds? Hell no. The springs are carrying the bulk of the load. I'm just providing a little added lift.
The stock Tundra black Tokico shocks have virtually no gas pressure. The Bilsteins have significant gas pressure; not enough to lift a person (If they could, then you couldn't compress them in the first place), but still significant pressure - I'm guessing that each Bilstein shock exerts on the order of 50 pounds of force at each corner of the truck. This lifting force is in addition to the lift provided by the springs. These shocks will provide a slight amount of lift to an otherwise stock non-TRD Tundra.
My measurements prove it did not lift a single bit, not even a fraction of an inch. I don't have documented measurements with me but when a switched from tokico's to bilstein's my measurements still came out the same.
I thought exactly what you thought, that I would be able to gain some lift but it was proven wrong when I switched. Even the gas pressure in the bilstein aren't sufficient enough to lift a gallon of water, that was exactly what I did after I pushed the shock down then hooked the gallon of water on top of it. I came up after I took it off, very slowly.
Again shocks are dampeners, not lifters.
My SR-5 Tundra Access Cab, did not come with the TRD Package, but since, I had the Yellow TRD Shocks put in, and I noticed my steering wheel tilts left? I read in one the post that this common? This does not affect my tire thread? checked the tire pressure, looked for any discharge from the front struts or progressive springs for any movement? The aligment was done when I had this work done too...
Now, is this a defect for the TRD product, and does it happen to the regular Bilstein struts/shocks? I am thinking of changing this struts in the near future because of such defect.
If I understand your post, you had shocks installed, the vehicle was realigned and now your steering wheel is off-center. If I understand you correctly, it does not sound like a problem with the shock install, but a problem from the realignment. The steering wheel being off center is a common problem in many vehicles. I would take it back to whoever did the realignment and tell them that your steering wheel is off-center and needs to be recentered. This is done on the Tundra by adjusting the tie-rod ends in relation to the rack end screws.
HELP Ivan STU - Shocks
So I got the red/blue HD Bilestin and installed them with the stock springs. The truck lifted its nose up foront and it is almost level. Looks much better than before and handles a 100 times better.
TRD Yellow Bilstein Shock
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