Still confused on wheel spacer choices

Brandon1 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-04-2006, 05:28 PM

I have called several companies that sell adapters. Some range from $114 for 4, to $360 for hub and wheel centric adapters. Fred Girsk (sp?) spacers says his are the best in america. I am wondering, do I really have to pay $360 for 4 wheel spacers? That sounds like alot of money for a piece of aluminum. Do I really need hub and wheel centric, neither?

The only thing is that the Fred Girsk adapters are wheel and hub centric and can be shipped tommorow, other companies need as much as 20 days!!!!

Imdone · #2 (**permalink**) 09-06-2006, 01:42 AM

Everyone that keeps saying the toyota is hub centric needs to read this:
Hub Centric vs

this too:
American Racing

Our trucks are Lug centric, which means the lugs center the wheel not the hub.

I would say go with whatever you can get as fast as you need, just make sure that they are lug centric not hub centric.

DevinSixtySeven · #3 (**permalink**) 09-06-2006, 10:53 PM

i noticed you have two threads with similar questions...

everybody is gonna say theirs are the best. there is no appreciable difference between steel and aluminum adapters, or spacers. mine are steel from aor4x4, i almost got a set from cali which were aluminum, i was ordering from aor at the time anyway and the shop in cali was out. they are LUG CENTRIC. so are the rims.

dont run spacers. only run adapters. they are not the same.

that is reasonable for adapters. they tend to run around 175 per pair, almost all that cost is machining, very little is material so theyre all gonna be a similar price.

when you get them, install and torque to 85 ft-lb in a star pattern, then do it again. put the wheels on the adapters and do the same thing. next day, pop the wheels off and retorque the lugs on the adapters, reinstall the wheels the same way. do this a few times, youll see that the lugs/nuts on the factory hub dont change much (if at all--shouldnt change at all). the lugs on the adapters will settle in, keep retorquing daily until they dont move. just leave the torque wrench in the truck and check every time you drive.

Imdone · #4 (**permalink**) 09-07-2006, 02:16 AM

Have to make an edit here.

If you still have OEM wheels they are hub centric but if you have aftermarkets they could be either.

I have been through 3 sets of aftermarket wheels and they have all been lug centric.

for your spacers though it will make it difficult to get the OEM wheels centered on the new lugs because they are not lug centric, if you are putting lug centric aftermarket wheels on these then it won't be an issue.

So for your question about the guy selling hubcentric spacers you would be best to use these if you have OEM wheels, but if you have aftermarket wheels it may not matter.

TundraTaylor · #5 (**permalink**) 09-07-2006, 02:07 PM

How do these work? they push the wheel out further away from the body?

IStan · #6 (**permalink**) 09-07-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TundraTaylor

How do these work? they push the wheel out further away from the body?

The adapter act like mini rims. They attach to the truck as your rims would. The adapters have a new set of studs which then your rims would attach to as if it were the truck. The adapters are 'safer' than spacers because spacers decrease the amount of thread on the stud for you to attach your rims to the truck.

In short. Yes, they push the wheel further from the body.

TundraTaylor · #7 (**permalink**) 09-07-2006, 08:08 PM

Is that their entire function to push the wheels out, or does it allow you to mount different bolt pattern wheels on?

IStan · #8 (**permalink**) 09-07-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TundraTaylor

Is that their entire function to push the wheels out, or does it allow you to mount different bolt pattern wheels on?

Both.

TundraTaylor · #9 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 01:19 PM

so can you get adapters in any bolt pattern? if so, can we then run any type of wheel as long as the hub size is the same?

longwoodklon · #10 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TundraTaylor

so can you get adapters in any bolt pattern? if so, can we then run any type of wheel as long as the hub size is the same?

Looks to me like if you ran the adapters, then the hub size of the rim wouldn't matter.

Brandon, you should just spring for the UCA's to get some extra clearance. Or get the adapters, then next set of tires get a 285 or 275 width so you can get rid of the adapter then.
/Mike

Brandon1 · #11 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 08:47 AM

I went with the ebay adapters I posted earlier.

I like the 305 size tho.

CTL lll · #12 (**permalink**) 09-13-2006, 09:05 AM

Brandon1 Did You Recieve Your Spacers From ebay Without Problem?

Brandon1 · #13 (**permalink**) 09-14-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CTL lll

Brandon1 Did You Recieve Your Spacers From ebay Without Problem?

They arrive tommorow.

superdave · #14 (**permalink**) 09-16-2006, 12:18 AM

Just my .02 if anyone is interrested. There is absolutley nothing wrong with running bolt on, one piece spacers. Two piece spacers go beyond sketchy (my friend had a set on his dodge). I ran my 1 piecers for about a year with relatively little problems (lost one wheel bearing impart of some water and added leverage). I may be revealing my level of sanity with this, but the spacers were 2.5". oops. Anyway, bolt on spacers are good as far as I'm concerned, as long as they clear your trucks' lugs (any shorter and you have to grind 'em down). If you want to go this route, I strongly recomend performancewheel.com

Brandon1 · #15 (**permalink**) 09-17-2006, 03:18 PM

well, I put my spacers on fri. and the tires did not rub anymore on the control arm or the frame, but rubbed horribly on the fenders. I tried to cut a little, but it would take alot of cutting for these to work.

I guess I need 1" spacers. I was under the impression that 1.25-1.5" spacers would work just fine.