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I occasionally get to India, and Mahindra is a common name on machinery over there but my only experience with that brand here in the US was 2 years ago when a good friend bought a big tractor with a front scoop, a winch, and a backhoe from them for just under $50K. He bought it to help him with clearing about 60 acres of land he had recently obtained. One of its features that he pointed out to me was the heavier gage steel than the competition that it was made of. About 2 or 3 weeks after he bought it, he was driving on the paved road between his house and the land, when he noticed a lurching and heard a bang. He looked out the back window and the whole backhoe was laying in the middle of the road. And it wasn't because a pin fell out or a latch had failed. The heavy gage steel had cracked by the rear differential and basically the rear half of his tractor had just fallen off while driving along a smooth road at about 15mph! I'm sure that most of their vehicles don't do that, but unless the heavy gage steel they build these vehicles out of isn't of comparable quality, then it doesn't mean much as far as strength and durability goes. My friend returned the Mahindra and spent an additional almost 20K for a John Deere.
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I don't like it being a one body piece.. sorta like the Honda Ridgeline.. you can't off road a truck like that because it won't articulate.. hopefully that makes sense.
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My opinion: it's a concept which means virtually nothing at this point. Manufacturers throw out concepts all the time and the large majority of them go nowhere.
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It looks like Crap. This is the way of the future. We are going to be seeing smaller vehicles with better MPG.

If the Dems get their way big trucks will be a thing of the past.
Well the Repubs have had their way for a few decades now, and all we got for it was Hemi Quad Cabs for $20 Grand... which obviously sell better than Tacomas, because they're CHEAP... so Toyota thinks Amurikans all want monster trucks now.

I'm on Toyota pickup #8 now, and I've had a few monster trucks inbetween (because they were CHEAPER than a Toyota)... but I'd rather have my 1986 SR5 Xtracab 4X4 back any day, if they'd put the D4D turbodiesel in it that they use in the HILUX in the rest of the world.

I just got back from Europe... and Toyota already has the vehicles we need, and they're sold all over Europe and Australia, but until we stop buying Hemis, we'll continue to get what they're giving us.

I have several articles on the Rampage. It's really a cool truck, with lots of innovative features that the Ridgeline doesn't have... but guess what it's got under the hood... yep, it's a Hemi :-) If they'd put a Cummins in it, and extend the bed a foot, I'd own one.

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I personally like the looks, specifications and performance of the Mahindra regular cab pickup. I read they also plan to have a four door.

I think Toyota has lost touch with their roots of compact vehicles. To be involved with this bigger and bigger thing with the domestics is going to backfire as oil continues to go up and mileage mandates increase.
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Who ever gives us a 28 mpg diesel one ton compact truck (see ausi FJ70 series trucks) will win the truck wars!
How many silly fordodgmchebytundy dudes (me included) can continue to spend 70-80 bucks a fill up.
I'm so amazed that toy keeps pitching the hybrid crap cause besides oil the battery is the only thing I ever replace in my toy.

"As our fuel prices approach european/ausi/uk prices so will our truck demands." We're just to lazy to demand diesel/compact it's gotta get ridiculously expensive for joe six pack to wake up

I think I'll buy some M&M stock in 2009, if the Myhindra truck is what it says it is.
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If the cab and box are one, it is not a truck IMHOP.
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Default Re: Toyota compact trucks return in 2010!!!

Some sort of utilitarian small truck is definitely going to be a market winner as fuel prices continue to climb. A unibody over-stylized pseudo-truck, however, isn't the answer.
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Looks to much like a El Camino
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Default Re: Toyota compact trucks return in 2010!!!

Yep, it's a unibody design. Basically a car platform shaped like a truck (kind of). These are big outside of the U.S. for light city delivery/errand vehicles. VW, Ford, Chevy, and others all offer them, but not quite as ugly as that thing.
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I don't like the concept truck but I would love to see a smaller Toyota. The Tundra looks great but every time I see gas going up it looks worse. The Tacoma styling has never worked for me and I wouldn't even get much better mileage than the Tundra. Why do the English get a diesel hilux and our only comparable truck is the Mahindra which may be the ugliest thing I've ever seen?
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Default Re: Toyota compact trucks return in 2010!!!

like someone else mentioned, i cannot see this "concept" becoming reality. i still recall seeing concepts for toyota trucks 3 to 4 years ago that never followed. toyota has had excellent sales with pre-tacoma and tacoma, they won't drop it all together. i could see a new model alltogether with the demands for these new single piece, avalanche/ridgeline looking grocery getters.
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I occasionally get to India, and Mahindra is a common name on machinery over there but my only experience with that brand here in the US was 2 years ago when a good friend bought a big tractor with a front scoop, a winch, and a backhoe from them for just under $50K. He bought it to help him with clearing about 60 acres of land he had recently obtained. One of its features that he pointed out to me was the heavier gage steel than the competition that it was made of. About 2 or 3 weeks after he bought it, he was driving on the paved road between his house and the land, when he noticed a lurching and heard a bang. He looked out the back window and the whole backhoe was laying in the middle of the road. And it wasn't because a pin fell out or a latch had failed. The heavy gage steel had cracked by the rear differential and basically the rear half of his tractor had just fallen off while driving along a smooth road at about 15mph! I'm sure that most of their vehicles don't do that, but unless the heavy gage steel they build these vehicles out of isn't of comparable quality, then it doesn't mean much as far as strength and durability goes. My friend returned the Mahindra and spent an additional almost 20K for a John Deere.
I just thought I'd say, I've got a Mahindra 3510 tractor with a FEL,backhoe, winch, mower, discs, chipper etc: and have beat the snot out of it for a little over 800 hours and it works just fine. The backhoe is not part of the tractor it's an attachment. Sounds like the underframe for the backhoe broke not the tractor--and it just so happens that is made right here in the USA by bradco.

I'll have to wait and see about a mahindra truck.
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The 2.5 L turbo-diesel four cylinder engine will differentiate the Mahindra from every pickup for sale in America. If priced aggressively I think it will sell very well. I can still remember when Isuzu sold compact diesel trucks in America. They were slow as hell (non-turbo?) and smoked like a big rig diesel.


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I just thought I'd say, I've got a Mahindra 3510 tractor with a FEL,backhoe, winch, mower, discs, chipper etc: and have beat the snot out of it for a little over 800 hours and it works just fine. The backhoe is not part of the tractor it's an attachment. Sounds like the underframe for the backhoe broke not the tractor--and it just so happens that is made right here in the USA by bradco.

I'll have to wait and see about a mahindra truck.
If it sounds like it was the backhoe that broke, then I must not have been clear. It was the very heavy cast iron of the Mahindra tractor that broke (I saw it.). My friend was told the part was made in India and in order to make the repairs, it was going to take 6 to 8 weeks to obtain that part so that was one of the reasons he opted to replace the whole tractor instead. If you've had good luck with your Mahindra tractor, then good for you, and please note that I did mention I was sure they all weren't like my friends tractor. But please don't try to revise what happened to my friends tractor without having seen it for yourself as I did.
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