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TacomaGeneral discussion forum for the 2005 and later Toyota Tacoma.
This is a discussion thread titled "Why a fullsize?", within the Tacoma forum, part of the Truck Forums category.
It is one of the best if you mean in the top 40 but no where near the best.
Did you ask those without health care insurance and money how it ranked?
Ours' is not the best system either. There are 30 other health care systems that are better than anything in North America.
"Better," but only if you are willing to compare apples to oranges and ignore the fact that many of the advanced treatments and equipment used all around the world originated with our capitilist system because somebody thought they could make money off it. Destroy that system and destroy any incentive for advancement in medicine. The best thing that could happen to our medical system would be for there to be LESS paperwork and LESS bureaucratic meddling, not turning it entirely over to them. The way to improve our medical system is to let medical professionals do their thing and demand that government get out of the way.
The best thing that could happen to our medical system would be for there to be LESS paperwork and LESS bureaucratic meddling, not turning it entirely over to them. The way to improve our medical system is to let medical professionals do their thing and demand that government get out of the way.
The best thing that could happen is for everybody to have coverage. Non-paying patients clog ER's, cost more in the long run and drive up the cost of healthcare for the rest of us. Universal coverage (not healthcare) is the answer. Implemented in a way that ensures everybody pays their fair share. Maybe a Fed sales tax? That way if you bought ANYTHING you would be paying for your premiums no matter how poor you were.
It is one of the best if you mean in the top 40 but no where near the best.
Did you ask those without health care insurance and money how it ranked?
Ours' is not the best system either. There are 30 other health care systems that are better than anything in North America.
No system is perfect. I personally am not willing to give up quality of healthcare to make sure everyone has insurance. Those who are uninsured still have options here in the US, like public clinics. My sister is one of the American's who is uninsured here and she just went completely through her pregnancy with out any problems at a public hospital clinic. She got good treatment too, granted those of us with insurance can get better treatment and much better service.
__________________ 2007 Tacoma DC 4x4 V6 TRD Off-Road
Supersprings
TRD Exhaust
AFE Cold Air Intake
URD Short Throw Shifter
TRD Supercharger (coming soon)
1967 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40
Springover
Rear Detriot Locker
Front ARB Locker
Longfield Super Axles
SM420 Transmission
Orion 4.1 Transfer Case
Chevy 327 V8
Teraflex Revolver Shackles Rear
Trail-Gear Six Shooter Knuckles
37x14.00 Super Swamper Bias Ply Irok's
**Just to name a few**
The best thing that could happen is for everybody to have coverage. Non-paying patients clog ER's, cost more in the long run and drive up the cost of healthcare for the rest of us. Universal coverage (not healthcare) is the answer. Implemented in a way that ensures everybody pays their fair share. Maybe a Fed sales tax? That way if you bought ANYTHING you would be paying for your premiums no matter how poor you were.
If we pay the government who then pays for every ones health "coverage". The quality of medicine goes down because health care becomes underpaid and budgeted by the government, which only weakens the possibility of new medical advancements because those providing us with health care (doctors, Drug Companies, ect.) no longer have the money to invest in medical advancement.
__________________ 2007 Tacoma DC 4x4 V6 TRD Off-Road
Supersprings
TRD Exhaust
AFE Cold Air Intake
URD Short Throw Shifter
TRD Supercharger (coming soon)
1967 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40
Springover
Rear Detriot Locker
Front ARB Locker
Longfield Super Axles
SM420 Transmission
Orion 4.1 Transfer Case
Chevy 327 V8
Teraflex Revolver Shackles Rear
Trail-Gear Six Shooter Knuckles
37x14.00 Super Swamper Bias Ply Irok's
**Just to name a few**
__________________ 2007 Tacoma DC 4x4 V6 TRD Off-Road
Supersprings
TRD Exhaust
AFE Cold Air Intake
URD Short Throw Shifter
TRD Supercharger (coming soon)
1967 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40
Springover
Rear Detriot Locker
Front ARB Locker
Longfield Super Axles
SM420 Transmission
Orion 4.1 Transfer Case
Chevy 327 V8
Teraflex Revolver Shackles Rear
Trail-Gear Six Shooter Knuckles
37x14.00 Super Swamper Bias Ply Irok's
**Just to name a few**
If we pay the government who then pays for every ones health "coverage". The quality of medicine goes down because health care becomes underpaid and budgeted by the government, which only weakens the possibility of new medical advancements because those providing us with health care (doctors, Drug Companies, ect.) no longer have the money to invest in medical advancement.
TRICARE and CHAMPVA are both widely accepted and have worked well for this family since 1994.
How about it...geesh I never saw a thread go so far off into a rant/debate over noting to do with the orignal post.
A few pages back, I made note that I decided to stick with the Tacoma as there's no fullsize out there that impresses me enough to make the switch. Fuel economy wise, gmc/chevy may be close, but their trucks are pretty blah looking. Dodge/Ford look great, but well...you know. The titan is no longer (or will be no longer), so that's out. Tundra is too big, older generation gets too poor of mileage. So in a nutshell, I'm happy with the Tacoma. It has its faults, but so does every vehicle.
I am having this exact debate. Tundra or Tacoma. Right now the Tundra is winning. The price difference is so minimal that I can't justify the Tacoma enough to get it.
As I am looking at them now the prices are...
Tacoma - 4WD, Double Cab, V6, AT, TRD, etc - $27,236
Tundra - 4WD, Double Cab, 5.7L, AT, TRD, SR5, etc - $30,861
The main purpose of the upgrade is to pull a bike a couple times a year and an rock crawler once a month or so.
I am having this exact debate. Tundra or Tacoma. Right now the Tundra is winning. The price difference is so minimal that I can't justify the Tacoma enough to get it.
As I am looking at them now the prices are...
Tacoma - 4WD, Double Cab, V6, AT, TRD, etc - $27,236
Tundra - 4WD, Double Cab, 5.7L, AT, TRD, SR5, etc - $30,861
The main purpose of the upgrade is to pull a bike a couple times a year and an rock crawler once a month or so.
If you're going to be pulling a rockcrawler, then I would go with the Tundra. I know Marazzito does it with his Tacoma, but I would still go with the Tundra. If it will also double as a DD and you drive a lot, consider fuel prices. The new Tundra's are gas pigs. Sure on the highway, I bet you can get a solid 18mpg everytime, but everyday driving most guys over on the Tundra board are getting about 13-15mpg daily driving.
I am having this exact debate. Tundra or Tacoma. Right now the Tundra is winning. The price difference is so minimal that I can't justify the Tacoma enough to get it.
As I am looking at them now the prices are...
Tacoma - 4WD, Double Cab, V6, AT, TRD, etc - $27,236
Tundra - 4WD, Double Cab, 5.7L, AT, TRD, SR5, etc - $30,861
The main purpose of the upgrade is to pull a bike a couple times a year and an rock crawler once a month or so.
Pulling the rock crawler I think the Tundra would do a better job, not necessarily due to the power, but the weight, and the larger brakes. Not trying to get into or start another 4.7-5.7 argument; but the 4.7 is ~a grand or so less, but usually has had additional incentives to give it even more of an edge price wise, and it prob still slightly outperform the Tacoma in pulling and acceleration. The 5.7 seems to be a no brainer, but most with the 4.7 have no complaints. If money is not a consideration, just get the 5.7.
I agree...if I was buying new, it would be tough. I bought my 05 used, loaded, and for ~$5000 under KBB, walked off with it for about $18K. Otherwise, it would have been a much tougher decision.
I agree...if I was buying new, it would be tough. I bought my 05 used, loaded, and for ~$5000 under KBB, walked off with it for about $18K. Otherwise, it would have been a much tougher decision.
See now I need to stumble on a deal like that.
The 4Runner itself weighs about 5k and then I need to get a trailer to pull. After parts, tires, extra propane, etc. I think it would add up to more than the Tacoma can safely pull.
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Originally Posted by MGH-PA
If you're going to be pulling a rockcrawler, then I would go with the Tundra. I know Marazzito does it with his Tacoma, but I would still go with the Tundra. If it will also double as a DD and you drive a lot, consider fuel prices. The new Tundra's are gas pigs. Sure on the highway, I bet you can get a solid 18mpg everytime, but everyday driving most guys over on the Tundra board are getting about 13-15mpg daily driving.
I usually drive 10 miles a day to/from work. We live on base and I work out on the edge of it. One thing I don't like about the Tundra is its size. I prefer the smaller Tacoma, but I have issues with its long term viability with what I have planned.
I agree...if I was buying new, it would be tough. I bought my 05 used, loaded, and for ~$5000 under KBB, walked off with it for about $18K. Otherwise, it would have been a much tougher decision.
I wanted a Taco but the incentives on the 07 4.7 Tundra's were too good and the Taco never has incentives b/c they sell so damn well.
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2007 Tundra Crew Max 4.7 TRD 4x4
285/65/18's with BF Goodrich All Terrain KO's
BedRug, Undercover, Bed Extender, Husky Liners
The 4Runner itself weighs about 5k and then I need to get a trailer to pull. After parts, tires, extra propane, etc. I think it would add up to more than the Tacoma can safely pull.
I usually drive 10 miles a day to/from work. We live on base and I work out on the edge of it. One thing I don't like about the Tundra is its size. I prefer the smaller Tacoma, but I have issues with its long term viability with what I have planned.
Ahhh, you're lucky...10 miles a day I have a 30 mile a day commute, and I was still debating whether I would really be impacted by gas mileage, but if I had a 10mile commute, and I needed a truck for towing, I would be in a Tundra. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Re: Why a fullsize?
I never saw a thread go so far off into a rant/debate over noting to do with the orignal post. 
TUNDRA786
I have a 30 mile a day commute, and I was still debating whether I would really be impacted by gas mileage, but if I had a 10mile commute, and I needed a truck for towing, I would be in a Tundra. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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