Hydrogen conversion

[RB Taco]

This looks promising and I can see sort of how it works but have strong reservations about installing it on my truck. Has anyone tried it or heard any negatives other than the possibility of screwing up your motor. Need facts not fiction or probability. Would definitely try try it on my lawn mower.

DriveWater.com

[Darnefnet]

Its just another method to separate you from your money.

[BamZipPow]

Originally Posted by RB Taco

Would definitely try try it on my lawn mower.

Keep in mind that the spark plug fires 2 times per cycle on a lawnmower. It's a wasted spark system as the "flywheel" will generate the spark at TDC fer each revolution. If you have hydrogen in the system at that time...it will ignite regardless if it's the proper time or not...

[rs6654]

Looks like a scam to me. If it was that simple BMW wouldn't have had to go through so much to make one.

First Drive: 2007 BMW Hydrogen-fueled 7 Series

BMW North America==

[FLTundra06]

I saw on the news yeasterday they had a Hydrogen powered car at the Univ of Florida. This looks like a much better deal as the one on the news cost a cool million to make or convert. lol

[RB Taco]

Had stumbled across the site looking for solar panels for my roof (house). Then noticed it was linked on several alternative energy web sites and started wondering well maybe it isn't all BS ..especially after having seen the Fox news reports. (one was from a station here in Houston)

Checked the mythbusters web site, they pretty much tore this set up apart as a fake.

Still it is a good concept getting hydrogen on demand from electrolysis. Would be much safer than pure hydrogen ...running around with a tank full of hydrogen would make Ford Pintos look like nothing when a mini Hindenburg goes up on impact.

Guess I'll go back to working out how to recapture human emissions after eating red beans & rice or hot chili peppers for injection into the fuel stream versus toxifying the air in the cab LOL.

[MEvang]

Not sure but it sounds like a simple water injection system. Hot rodders have used these for years to cool the cylinders on high compressions engine so a lower octane fuel can be used.(Prevents pre igniton) If this is what this is it will work, but besides allowing you to drop fuel octane it can't save you any money.
It doesn't produce any fuel economy savings and you must mix your water with denatured alcohol in the winter to present freezing. (This gets expensive)
I once used a water injections system made by Edelbrock on a 425 Olds engine that ran 10.5- 1 compression. The engine had a nasty habit of pinging even on 104 octane fuel. I finally installed a EGR valve system (does the same thing, cools the cylinders) and the problem went away. So did the nasty water injection system.
Mike

[Raptor235]

What do you guys think of these hydrogen generators... I found this excellent discussion DIY - Convert Your car to use Hydrogen Today talking about helping to bump your fuel efficiency, seems like some people are trying it out... I'm not a DIY type of a guy so I'm not sure how hard it would be to implement something like that into my car... has anyone here tried this before?

[pinktacoluvr]

Jeffotto.com has a cool informative write up on Hydrogen powered kits

[T-money]

I have a friend here in town that has done it to his Taco. Claims to have gone from 14mpg city to 21mpg city. Apparently it produces Hydrogen on demand, and uses what it produces in real time - so there is no Hydrogen storage to worry about blowing yer hood off. He did have an issue with a sensor that was trying to compensate the unusual results by dumping more fuel into the mix. He replaced the sensor, and has been driving happy for months now.

Here are the parts he used:

FloHHO Generator

4" ABS or CPVC tube (cut to length)
4" end cap
4" female end
4" male cleanout cap
1/4" right angle fittings (x3) and tap
1/4" tubing (10-12ft will vary to application)
316 grade stainless steel 2x6" strips (x25) and 1x6" strips (x2)
1/4"x 3 1/2" nylon bolts (x2)
1/4" plastic washers (x100)
1/4"x 3 1/2" SS bolt
1/4"x 2 1/2" SS bolt
1/4"x 1 1/2" SS bolt (x2)
1/4" SS washers (x14)
1/4" SSnuts (x12)
1/4" wingnuts
plastic fill plug
Fusable link (20 or 30amp)
lots of fuses
20 amp 12v relay (or stronger if nec.)
switch
10ga wire (15-20ft)
16ga wire (15-20ft)
assorted crimp ends
distilled water
baking soda/ lye/ KOH
purchase EFIE for each O2 sensor before catalytic converter (for max efficiency)
Install:
* fusable link to battery
* locate relay
* locate switch
* power switch to an ignition source (CRITICAL!!!)
* wire switch to relay
Cell pattern:
3+ plates
2- plates
20 neutral plates
* all plates will share (2) 1/4" holes for plastic bolts
* make sure plates do not touch each other
* cover any SS not submerged in electrolyte
* clean plates prior to assembly with alcohol
* enclosing the entire assembly (not top or bottom) may decrease heat
* use 2 rt. angles and a small piece of tubing for water level
* make bubbler from small water bottle with wide lid
* NEVER use glass containers
* if using lye or KOH, use caution (very corrosive) and dispose of fluid properly (hexavalent chromium
is created during electrolysis)
Connect to Intake System:
* after bubbler, direct HHO near throttle body, airbox or both