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the.phantom · #1 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 05:37 PM

(09-29) 13:58 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --
Toyota says it will recall 3.8 million vehicles in the United States to address problems with a removable floor mat that could interfere with the vehicle's accelerator and cause a crash. The company says it will be the largest recall in its history. Owners could learn about the safety campaign as early as next week.
Toyota and the government warned owners of Toyota and Lexus vehicles about safety problems tied to the removable floor mats. They say the mats could interfere with the vehicle's accelerator and cause a crash.
The recall will affect 2007-2010 model year Toyota Camry, 2005-2010 Toyota Avalon, 2004-2009 Toyota Prius, 2005-2010 Tacoma, 2007-2010 Toyota Tundra, 2007-2010 Lexus ES350 and 2006-2010 Lexus IS250 and IS350.
Owners should take out the floor mats on the driver's side and not replace them.
Toyota's previously largest recall was about 900,000 vehicles in 2005 to fix a steering issue.

Splicer · #2 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 08:15 PM

Saw that on the news last week. The issue is with mats that are not anchored in position to the floor, and therefore may work their way forward and interfere with the throttle pedal. Mats with the anchor attachments are no problem, and may continue to be used -- as long as they are properly anchored.

the.phantom · #3 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 09:38 PM

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2005-2010 Tacoma

if you have a link to the exempt of the tacoma could you post it please?

Splicer · #4 (**permalink**) 09-30-2009, 12:58 AM

Not a Tacoma exemption (Toyota wants to fully cover all possibilities), but this will help explain the recall.

Newsroom : Toyota/Lexus Consumer Safety Advisory Potential Floor Mat Interference with Accelerator Pedal / Toyota

Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. takes public safety very seriously. It believes its vehicles to be among the safest on the road today.

Recent events have prompted Toyota to take a closer look at the potential for an accelerator pedal to get stuck in the full open position due to an unsecured or incompatible driver's floor mat. A stuck open accelerator pedal may result in very high vehicle speeds and make it difficult to stop the vehicle, which could cause a crash, serious injury or death.

Toyota considers this a critical matter and will soon launch a safety campaign on specific Toyota and Lexus vehicles. Throughout the process of developing the details of the action plan, it will advise the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

Until Toyota develops a remedy, it is asking owners of specific Toyota and Lexus models to take out any removable driver’s floor mat and NOT replace it with any other floor mat. The following models are affected:

• 2007 – 2010 Camry
• 2005 – 2010 Avalon
• 2004 – 2009 Prius
• 2005 – 2010 Tacoma
• 2007 – 2010 Tundra
• 2007 – 2010 ES350
• 2006 – 2010 IS250 and IS350

Should the vehicle continue to accelerate rapidly after releasing the accelerator pedal, this could be an indication of floor mat interference. If this occurs, Toyota recommends the driver take the following actions:

First, if it is possible and safe to do so, pull back the floor mat and dislodge it from the accelerator pedal; then pull over and stop the vehicle.

If the floor mat cannot be dislodged, then firmly and steadily step on the brake pedal with both feet. Do NOT pump the brake pedal repeatedly as this will increase the effort required to slow the vehicle.

Shift the transmission gear selector to the Neutral (N) position and use the brakes to make a controlled stop at the side of the road and turn off the engine.

If unable to put the vehicle in Neutral, turn the engine OFF, or to ACC. This will not cause loss of steering or braking control, but the power assist to these systems will be lost.

-If the vehicle is equipped with an Engine Start/Stop button, firmly and steadily push the button for at least three seconds to turn off the engine. Do NOT tap the Engine Start/Stop button.

-If the vehicle is equipped with a conventional key-ignition, turn the ignition key to the ACC position to turn off the engine. Do NOT remove the key from the ignition as this will lock the steering wheel.

In the event owners choose not to remove their floor mat, Toyota strongly recommends that they ensure that the correct floor mat is being used, that it is properly installed and secured, that it is not flipped over with bottom-side up, and that one floor mat is not stacked over another. Information on proper floor mat installation can be found on http://www.toyota.com and http://www.lexus.com.

Owners with questions or concerns, are asked to please contact the Toyota Customer Experience Center (1 800 331-4331) or Lexus Customer Assistance Center (1 800 255¬3987), or consult the information posted at http://www.toyota.com and http://www.lexus.com.

September 29, 2009

jyota · #5 (**permalink**) 10-01-2009, 06:39 PM

Ha! people are already starting to market to the toyota dealers for this problem.

carpet protection during toyota floormat recall

Splicer · #6 (**permalink**) 10-02-2009, 04:35 PM

^ Gotta love free enterprise...

SuperBusa · #7 (**permalink**) 10-04-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Splicer

• 2005 – 2010 Tacoma

Guess I'm a little confused, as the 2005-2010 Tacomas have the mat anchors already. Is Toyota saying the original mat anchors fail and cause the mats to move around? I haven't had any problems with mine.

Splicer · #8 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperBusa

Guess I'm a little confused, as the 2005-2010 Tacomas have the mat anchors already. Is Toyota saying the original mat anchors fail and cause the mats to move around? I haven't had any problems with mine.

I have had no issues with my mats or anchors either.

The Toyota advisory suggests removing all mats, and if you do not remove them, ensure they are the correct mats and properly installed... that is to say, anchored by the clips.

Apparently some mats have been installed incorrectly (some have even been installed upside down), or are aftermarket mats lacking anchor holes. And in some cases, mats have been placed on top of the OEM mats...

SuperBusa · #9 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Splicer

I have had no issues with my mats or anchors either.

The Toyota advisory suggests removing all mats, and if you do not remove them, ensure they are the correct mats and properly installed... that is to say, anchored by the clips.

Apparently some mats have been installed incorrectly (some have even been installed upside down), or are aftermarket mats lacking anchor holes. And in some cases, mats have been placed on top of the OEM mats...

Seems like a common sense issue. I mean, if there are mat anchors and the OEM mats are supposed to lock into the anchors, then if they are installed correctly there shouldn't be any problems. Is Toyota really responsible if some bonehead doesn't know how to install his/her OEM mats into the mat anchors? ... seems kind of ridiculous unless the anchors actual fail with time and that allows the mats to move around and get tangles up with the accelerator pedal.

I'm curious what Toyota plans for the fix ... maybe permanently rivet all the mats down to the floor?

matrix77 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 04:09 PM

My truck doesn't come with the anchors! :-(

Splicer · #11 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBusa

Seems like a common sense issue. I mean, if there are mat anchors and the OEM mats are supposed to lock into the anchors, then if they are installed correctly there shouldn't be any problems. Is Toyota really responsible if some bonehead doesn't know how to install his/her OEM mats into the mat anchors? ... seems kind of ridiculous unless the anchors actual fail with time and that allows the mats to move around and get tangles up with the accelerator pedal.

I'm curious what Toyota plans for the fix ... maybe permanently rivet all the mats down to the floor?

I agree completely.

I think this is the sort of situation that arises when you are virtually covered up with lawyers and lawsuits. Everything, and I do mean everything, has to be made idiotproof.

Of course, we all know that nothing is idiotproof to a sufficiently talented idiot.

Splicer · #12 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by matrix77

My truck doesn't come with the anchors! :-(

Maybe the holes are in the floor, but your dealer never supplied the clips? I looked at WeatherTech's site, and they clearly show anchored mats for a 2007 Tundra.

NicksToy · #13 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 06:29 PM

I heard about this recall, but didn't know the Tacoma was affected until I read this post. On my 2005, the holes are in the floor but there were never any clips provided. This has not been an issue for me since I use big rubber floor mats over the carpeted factory mats.

Splicer · #14 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NicksToy

I heard about this recall, but didn't know the Tacoma was affected until I read this post. On my 2005, the holes are in the floor but there were never any clips provided. This has not been an issue for me since I use big rubber floor mats over the carpeted factory mats.

That is exactly the problem scenario -- non-secured aftermarket mats, in place of or on top of factory mats.

SuperBusa · #15 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NicksToy

I heard about this recall, but didn't know the Tacoma was affected until I read this post. On my 2005, the holes are in the floor but there were never any clips provided. This has not been an issue for me since I use big rubber floor mats over the carpeted factory mats.

My 2005 Tacoma definitely had the mat clips from the factory - OEM mats have holes to install the clip through. I'm assuming all 2005+ Tacomas would have them (??) ... but maybe not depending on what model.

Maybe the mat clips need to be installed by the dealer, and some didn't install them ... ??? This recall isn't very clear IMO.